Beware!

Hi. I just wanted to put a quick post on here warning any drivers that want to immigrate to Canada to be careful and to check out any company offering employment really well. This includes reading any feedback from their employees, both present and past to get their opinion.

My husband and I live in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan and he drives for Yanke. Don’t get me wrong…we love the country and are going to stick it out so that we can get our permanent residence and stay.

Just make sure that you get ALL the information that you can, including costs of immigration etc.

This is a web site that I found that might be of some interest to anyone thinking of making the move…

freewebs.com/rigjocky/

Do I smell spam cooking??

AlexxInNY:
Do I smell spam cooking??

Possibly, but after reading the link, it is not very complimentry to Yanke at all, and is rather a warning to Brits thinking of emmigrating to Canada.

Debsranch doesnt promote any other company in this post, and there is no website listed in her profile…

so I think it is a attempt to educate and inform via website links, rather than to promote a website or company

However only time will tell :wink: :open_mouth: :smiley:

AlexxInNY:
Do I smell spam cooking??

Why would you think that?
I’m surprised there aren’t more of these websites.
All the British drivers going out to Saskatchewan are going on a Work Permit. They being sponsored by ( in this case) Yanke Transportation. Yanke is obviously going to get the drivers to do what it needs. If Yanke’s main requirement right now is for teams; that’s what the drivers will have to do.
Yanke is a reputable carrier here in Canada. They run decent equipment; but they are an irregular route carrier that covers all of North America.
Most drivers won’t see much more of their wives and families if they left them at home in Britain.

I would be interested to see how many if any are told they must leave Canada when their work permit expires.

Is this a way to get to emigrate to Canada or for Yanke to hire drivers more cheaply than native-born Canadians are willing to work for?

debsranch:
Hi. I just wanted to put a quick post on here warning any drivers that want to immigrate to Canada to be careful and to check out any company offering employment really well.
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I don’t have reason to view this section of the forum often but I’ve noticed the ex-pats warning about this on more than one occasion. Unfortunately they also say their warnings have gone unheeded.

this isnt spam its genuine - if u go to the link posted you will see they are warning drivers who want to come here to look into it well - good advice!

we looked into yanke a couple of years ago but decided to find our own company as heard so many bad things about them!

blue: a work permit cna be applied for three eyars in that time u can apply for residency - there is no reason that you should be told to go home!

mrs c

Although the comments on the guestbook make sad reading, I dont imagine an amateur looking website like that is going to worry Yanke or anyone else.

I have read a lot of constructive advice on various of Pat Haslers posts and I think any company should be more worried about him :stuck_out_tongue: And anyone trying to emigrate to Canada or the USA would be better listening to him.

Dont forget the cheque Pat :smiley:

TruckNet UK carries only one advert for Canadian Immigration, although we have been approached by many.

The one we carry is not for a transport company, but for a lawyer who specialises in immigration,

Colin Singer will himself tell you that you can emigrate to Canada without his services, what he offers is his expertise in making that transition easier, (at a price)

other approaches we have had, who would have paid us far more money then Mr Singer promised drivers more than we knew was legally possible

The moral here is, it is possible to emigrate to Canada as a driver without using a “consultant”, and although it is a bureaucratic nightmare it can be done. A bona fide consultant can ease the paperwork , but it comes at a price

The only immigration consultant that TruckNet UK feels able to recommend is www.immigration.ca

just because its an amateur site doesnt make the experinces these poor people have had any easier

i reckon its a truck driver who has started the site to try and warn other drivers about a company - not a web designer !!
you also as rikki mentioned certainly dont need a lawyer - they take a lot of money form you and its easy enough to do it yourself…

we found emigrating to canada to be easy and simple - the best advice i can give is to find your own employer - someone who is willing to apply to the government for you for an approval for you to work for them - not someone who has already applied for 50 places so they can get cheaper labour and exploit people.

sez

I seem to remember warning everyone on occasions too offten to remember about these companies and sponsering drivers :exclamation:

No body took any damm notice with answers like “I’m going for it anyway”

I was even threatened by the guy who runs ESI if you remember :question:

Nobody needs an agency like ESI to arrange emigration to Canada, just contact a ‘GOOD’ company and get a regular immigration lawyer, it will save you hundreds of pounds.
Families move over there to what they think is a good job, but are not prepared to be away for weeks on end.

Cattleman:
blue: a work permit cna be applied for three eyars in that time u can apply for residency - there is no reason that you should be told to go home!

mrs c

Have you been accepted as a Landed Immigrant yet?
I don’t mean to be discouraging; I’m in favour that as many British come as want to. I certainly prefer them to the people who seem to get in:
Chinese; East Indians, West Indians, Poles.
Canada’s immigration policy has for many years favoured multi-cultural immigrants. There was a story late last year that within 20 years the non-white population will exceed the white population in Toronto and Vancouver.
I just wish prospective drivers would realize what they are getting themselves into. I see it as a period of Indentured Servitude.
Truckers in North America are gone for long periods of time. It plays hell with marriages. It plays hell with family life.
Yanke is likely as decent an employer as any other. Maybe though, they aren’t quite as open about what the duties of the job will entail.
Here is a picture of a typical Yanke unit.

Hi everyone and thank you for so many responses. Firstly…no this is not spam. I am just a truckers wife who just knows that it can be a very trying experience if you do not get all the facts first!

I am not trying to tell anyone who they should or should not go to work for as it is of no benefit to me to do either.

We moved here knowing that my husband would be away for up to 3 weeks at a time (infact he is normally only out for 11 - 12 days) and this is not a problem for us. We love it here, we want to stay and we just hope that our immigration paperwork goes through smoothly.

Yanke are at present one of the companies who are part of the provincial nominee programme and because of that your immigration paperwork is fast tracked. At the end of the first year you will be able to renew your work permit and then hopefully a few months after that, if medicals and other checks are ok, you get your permanent residence. We do know of several people who have now become permanent residents (not all working for Yanke) so it does work!

There is a lot of paper work involved and it will cost us almost $4000.00 for our family to go through this process. Running team for 1 year sounds ok when you are still in the UK but the harsh reality is that you will be spending 24 hours a day in a truck with some one that you probably have not met before. I know lots of the drivers find this quite hard as they are used to driving single in the UK.

I didn’t come on here to blast or praise any company but just to get anyone thinking about doing this to really think about what they want. We know of so many people that have gone back to the UK for various reasons.

We will not be returning as long as all goes well with medicals etc as we are set on our future being here in Canada. The Canadians are so friendly and so welcoming that it does make the whole relocation easier but you still have to be tough enough to weather the storms!

Oh by the way…I do know that the web site I gave is set up by a trucker not a web designer!!! I believe it was done just so that drivers here could put their views on it. I guess the driver is too busy driving to have a perfect web site! lol.

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Have you been accepted as a Landed Immigrant yet?

no but theres abosultely no reason why we shouldnt be accepted -

I don’t mean to be discouraging; I’m in favour that as many British come as want to. I certainly prefer them to the people who seem to get in:
Chinese; East Indians, West Indians, Poles.
Canada’s immigration policy has for many years favoured multi-cultural immigrants. There was a story late last year that within 20 years the non-white population will exceed the white population in Toronto and Vancouver.

who said we were white■■? we can be british and not white!

Truckers in North America are gone for long periods of time. It plays hell with marriages. It plays hell with family life.

not true i see my hubby at least twice thru the week and every weekend - more than we have ever done! absolutely blissfully happy marriage and family life

the company we chose out of the few that offered us work we chose because it was a small company and they just seemed to go out of their way to help us he is on the same wages as anyone else that works there and they have helped us so much even on a personal level! i realise everyone is different thats why i urge to look into the companies well and find out as much as u can beforehand…

Now, I used to run Canada almost exclusively (spent more time in Ontario and Quebec than at home-kept Canuck change in one pocket, US in the other), and let me tell you, most Yanke units are dirty, banged up, and several years older than the one pictured.

For those thinking of driving north America, remember-the distances are long, the towns are further apart, and the winters are long and cold. Sometimes teams can be on the road for weeks at a time, subsisting on lousy truckstop food, and toiling often on the docks. Many recievers feel that the load isn’t delivered until it’s on the dock. Try handballing a 45,000 lb load of coffee stacked knee-high after driving 560 miles that day. This is typical of US trucking.

Also, if you drive Canada, remember, 1/3 of Canadians speak French as their primary language, and in Quebec, all signage is in French.

AlexxInNY:
all signage is in French.

Here too. Pas de problème. :laughing: :laughing:

Salut, David.

AlexxInNY:
Now, I used to run Canada almost exclusively (spent more time in Ontario and Quebec than at home-kept Canuck change in one pocket, US in the other), and let me tell you, most Yanke units are dirty, banged up, and several years older than the one pictured.

Very, very true… Several of the Yanke trucks I saw while I was over there looked ready for scrapping.

For those thinking of driving north America, remember-the distances are long, the towns are further apart, and the winters are long and cold. Sometimes teams can be on the road for weeks at a time, subsisting on lousy truckstop food, and toiling often on the docks. Many recievers feel that the load isn’t delivered until it’s on the dock. Try handballing a 45,000 lb load of coffee stacked knee-high after driving 560 miles that day. This is typical of US trucking.

But it’s not all like that. There are DOZENS of companies offering jobs for drivers with the promise of 100% no-touch.
And I’ve eaten truckstop food in the UK, and in the US. Trust me, US truckstop fare isn’t all that bad. Besides, in the US, there are literally dozens of fast food joints who have lots big enough for a dozen rigs in there as well as the 4 wheelers. Pick your place. Remember pulling your 45 in a dirty layby with all sorts of interesting people around who had clothing malfuctions? The smell of ■■■■ when you parked up? Being treated like dirt? Just so long as you don’t think that trucking in the US/Canada will help you escape all that, you should do ok.

Also, if you drive Canada, remember, 1/3 of Canadians speak French as their primary language, and in Quebec, all signage is in French.

True, however, everywhere that still likes the idea of being Canadian rather than part of the first reactionary republic of Quebecistan speaks English just fine, and signs are also in English as well as french.

There are 4 steps to getting a job in Canada.
1: Convince an employer to give you a job offer, and do their side of the paperwork.
2: Pay a lawyer to put the paperwork together with the stuff you filled in.
3: Pay Canadian Immegration their fees, and Collect your visa.
4: Pack up and fly

Hopefully if you pay an agent to assist you, they will locate a company capable of organising drinkies in a brewery who won’t try to rip everyone off left, right and centre. That’s where I screwed up. Once the ■■■■ hit the fan, the company stabbed me in the back. I ended up back in blighty with a polite request not to re-enter Canada for 12 months, and to possibly pay CIC $2,000 for the return trip they bought me.
I AM going back to Canada to drive. Probably in 3 or 4 years time. This time it will be done right, and for a decent company who won’t treat me like complete dirt.

BIG TIP:
If things go ■■■■ up, then for gods’ sakes, co-operate with immegration. If you try and pull a fast one on them, you’ll be deported and banned from re-entry forever. I co-operated, and it didn’t go too badly, I can go back.

Alexx is right about many things though.
The US is HUGE, and Canada is the second biggest country in the world. Towns can be dozens of miles apart., Interstate exits can be up to 70 or 80 miles apart. In the midwest, you can drive for an hour or more before you spot a place you can park up and get some food. Planning is increadibly important, as well as the book to show you where you can get fuel.
In big cities, expect just as many bad drivers as you find here.
Out in the wilds, expect to see almost no-one for hours on end.
Lanes on the interstates are narrower than here.
Trailers are longer (53’ are common)
EVERY state/province has different laws for wieght distribution, axle positions etc. Expect to pull over 3 or 4 times a day to shuffle your trailer axles and 5th wheel slide around to get legal.
US long-nose tractors don’t turn on a dime, they turn on the national debt of mexico. They look very cool indeed, and ride lovely on the highway, but in a city, you WILL get all homesick for that knackered Iveco you once swore at.
They almost all have constant mesh crash boxes. Do NOT expect to master them in a hurry unless you are a fan of the twinsplitter.
Don’t expect a quiet night of sleep. EVER. Even if you did fork out for a spot with Idleaire, or have a nice quiet nightheater in your truck, half the rest of the parking lot will be filled with big trucks running at a fast idle all night to power their heating/aircon.
Expect law enforcement everywhere to have a gun, and probably point it at you now and again. It’s the land of the gun, live with it.
Don’t expect companies to pay you much when you’re not rolling. Pay is usually by the mile. A good company will pay out for detentions at unruly RDCs and border delays. Crap ones will not. Good companies will cover your costs if you get a lumper to help out on a handball job. Bad ones will expect you to pay for it.
US/Canadian laws work on the logbook. There are many fiddles, but the cops know most of them.

Trucking over there is no nirvana. Drivers there whinge just as much as us, and for many of the same reasons. Just pop along to TNet US or Tnet Canada and find out.

I think, just like everywhere else, you can achieve same results via different routes. When I was starting as a driver many were scaring me with stories of long delays, being on the road for too long bad equipment and so forth. I’d had a little bit of that - just because I was new to the business.
But then gradually the vision comes to you. Just in over three years I am now an owner of 2 trucks. I drive for 4-5 days a week, then spend 2 - 3 days at home with my wife and everybody’s happy. For the meantime it’s a healthy balance between family time and business necessity. I never touch my loads - never mind unloading 45000 lbs of coffee. Occasionally I take a trip to LA, which takes a bit more - about 7-8 days.
The same goes for my driver that pulls my other unit.
So, just like in the UK or any other place it all about finding the right carrier that you feel comfortable with.

Spardo:

AlexxInNY:
all signage is in French.

Here too. Pas de problème. :laughing: :laughing:

Salut, David.

It can become a problem for the non-francophone on an infrequent trip to the province of Quebec. 90% of the signage there is in easy to understand pictographs (although the truck weigh-scale sign looks more like a truck taking a shower…), but every once in a while there is an important sign written only in french.
“Vehicles authorises seulement” is one, “allumez vos phares” is a lesser one, but that big sign just before the La fontaine tunnel stating “materiels dangereuse interdit dans le tunnel” without even a single pistogrph showing a hazmat restriction is nothing short of a trap. Oh, of course the Surete Quebec always have a car stationed right there to nail the clueless American driver…