Best tractor unit for low loader recovery trailer

Hi Everyone

I am new to the forum.

I have a bus/coach/limo company and want to buy a tractor unit 6x2 for a low loader recovery trailer with GVW 39TON.

Any advise would be great as i know nothing about tractor units.

Vehicles i could recover will be from 5 ton to 13 ton

1.Euro 5 or 6 ? Plan to operate locally so wont go into LEZ zones

2.What make truck ?

3.What mileage vehicles would you avoid?

Any other advise would be great.

I understand i will need a restricted op licence to recover my own vehicles and will also go on the relevant courses for vehicle recovery.

Cheers for your help.

Jay

How often do your vehicles break down? :open_mouth:
For the cost of the vehicle about which you enquire, you could do a truck load of preventive maintenance and still have plenty of change to sub-contract the occasionally needed tow. :unamused:

What coaches do you run, and your mechanics like the best? Keep it simple and get the same make.
Might be worth while avoiding Eu6 though. Keep it simple.
Looking for a well maintained truck at that age, is better than going for a particular spec.

Star down under.:
How often do your vehicles break down? :open_mouth:
For the cost of the vehicle about which you enquire, you could do a truck load of preventive maintenance and still have plenty of change to sub-contract the occasionally needed tow. :unamused:

I’m with this. Unless you’re running a bag of crap fleet which shouldn’t be on the road you shouldn’t need to use it. Where I’m at there’s a fleet of over 130 lorries doing an average of 200,000km a year each. It’s extremely rare to see one come in on a recovery truck and if they do it’s often things like clutch gone.

Star down under.:
How often do your vehicles break down? :open_mouth:
For the cost of the vehicle about which you enquire, you could do a truck load of preventive maintenance and still have plenty of change to sub-contract the occasionally needed tow. :unamused:

Hi Thanks for reply sorry my post wasnt clear i plan to also offer a recovery service to the bus and coach/limo industry as i know a lot of people in that industry plus a good friend of mine is a director of a very large demolition company and has offered me the contract for there northwest diversion to move there plant so worth me buying truck/trailer.

Cheers Jay

Jase1969:

Star down under.:
How often do your vehicles break down? :open_mouth:
For the cost of the vehicle about which you enquire, you could do a truck load of preventive maintenance and still have plenty of change to sub-contract the occasionally needed tow. :unamused:

Hi Thanks for reply sorry my post wasnt clear i plan to also offer a recovery service to the bus and coach/limo industry as i know a lot of people in that industry plus a good friend of mine is a director of a very large demolition company and has offered me the contract for there northwest diversion to move there plant so worth me buying truck/trailer.

Cheers Jay

Moving others stuff youll need a standard operators licence not restricted. Moving stuff for a large demolition co youll need more than 39t gvw, you`ll need to be looking at STGO

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Jase1969:

Star down under.:
How often do your vehicles break down? :open_mouth:
For the cost of the vehicle about which you enquire, you could do a truck load of preventive maintenance and still have plenty of change to sub-contract the occasionally needed tow. :unamused:

Hi Thanks for reply sorry my post wasnt clear i plan to also offer a recovery service to the bus and coach/limo industry as i know a lot of people in that industry plus a good friend of mine is a director of a very large demolition company and has offered me the contract for there northwest diversion to move there plant so worth me buying truck/trailer.

Cheers Jay

Moving others stuff youll need a standard operators licence not restricted. Moving stuff for a large demolition co youll need more than 39t gvw, you`ll need to be looking at STGO

Plus I can’t see a coach or bus going up ramps on to a standard semi low step frame or plant machines doing a proper coach recovery trailer any good .

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Jase1969:

Star down under.:
How often do your vehicles break down? :open_mouth:
For the cost of the vehicle about which you enquire, you could do a truck load of preventive maintenance and still have plenty of change to sub-contract the occasionally needed tow. :unamused:

Hi Thanks for reply sorry my post wasnt clear i plan to also offer a recovery service to the bus and coach/limo industry as i know a lot of people in that industry plus a good friend of mine is a director of a very large demolition company and has offered me the contract for there northwest diversion to move there plant so worth me buying truck/trailer.

Cheers Jay

Moving others stuff youll need a standard operators licence not restricted. Moving stuff for a large demolition co youll need more than 39t gvw, you`ll need to be looking at STGO

Hi

Yes i know this re op licence cheers to start i will keep it simple with local recovery which i will operate within 60km of my unit so dont need an ops licence will look to larger vehicles once i have done my home work and a better understanding of the business.

I have been looking at 2014/2015 Scania R450 tractor units which seem to be a good truck is there any common issues i need to look out for or tractor units to stay clear of.

Cheers

Punchy Dan:

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Jase1969:

Star down under.:
How often do your vehicles break down? :open_mouth:
For the cost of the vehicle about which you enquire, you could do a truck load of preventive maintenance and still have plenty of change to sub-contract the occasionally needed tow. :unamused:

Hi Thanks for reply sorry my post wasnt clear i plan to also offer a recovery service to the bus and coach/limo industry as i know a lot of people in that industry plus a good friend of mine is a director of a very large demolition company and has offered me the contract for there northwest diversion to move there plant so worth me buying truck/trailer.

Cheers Jay

Moving others stuff youll need a standard operators licence not restricted. Moving stuff for a large demolition co youll need more than 39t gvw, you`ll need to be looking at STGO

Plus I can’t see a coach or bus going up ramps on to a standard semi low step frame or plant machines doing a proper coach recovery trailer any good .

The trailer i am looking at is designed for coaches/buses does have very low loading i would put a picture up but not figured how to do that yet .

Trouble is a trailer designed for moving coaches, buses etc probably won’t stand up to the abuse that demolition machines will give it. They’ll be steel tracked and will tear up a lighter bed.

How many bus/ coach breakdowns that require recovery happen within 60km’s of where you’re based?
Coach recovery requires totally different trailer to moving plant machinery,plenty of people already doing both with years of experience,how long do you think you’ll remain friends with people when you rock up to do the business …not having a clue?
If you were seriously interested in getting into these business’ working for someone else,to make the mistakes on their shilling would be way to go,but how hard can it be■■?

If you stay away from plant/demo work a 4x2 will do to keep the pennies down:

These guys are showing off as the can move double deckers on a trailer when anyone else would have to tow it with a wrecker.

Don’t know about bus/coach/ limo - strikes me he’s more into TROLLeys!

mrginge:
These guys are showing off as the can move double deckers on a trailer when anyone else would have to tow it with a wrecker.

Great trailer that thanks for sharing pictures.

No trolleys though on my fleet.

All trucks have expensive problems, so firstly find out who your local dealer is or a decent local garage. Then that gives you the best maker.

If good independent is available, then personally I’d go get something cheap and cheerful as you’re not tramping so a DAF CF would do the job. Our 15 plates (Euro 6) still go with 500K miles although most have lost a clutch by then, but generally they are fairly reliable. Those run 24/5 often at 44T.

However, one like this Volvo FH 460 on Ebay might catch my eye (was a random search). 700K but only £9K, but its only done events so likely not pulling 44T all day which had to reduce the wear. Plus on a known fleet its likely been looked after.

ebay.co.uk/itm/193386380157

This is after you’ve solved all the other issues especially insurance for recovery, full ops licences, multiple drivers since you’ll need 24/7 coverage, you will need a tacho I believe to recover others and being cheaper than Crouch Recovery if its for others.

Actually, before you get a low loader, I would think why don’t Crouch do it on those for the most part? They do have one, but its got a winch and I don’t believe they use it for coaches. The latter are rather fragile.

Do you need a separate operators CPC for HGV vs PSV?

lynchy:
How many bus/ coach breakdowns that require recovery happen within 60km’s of where you’re based?

About 5 or 6 years back First Bus Essex were in a terrible state, I would see on average at least one a week broken down in or around Danbury where our yard is, for those that don’t know that’s a medium
sized village in Essex on the road between Chelmsford and Maldon, served by a couple of bus routes. It’s up a large hill (for Essex) but hardly mountainous. Bearing in mind that I usually do one or two runs a day in or out of the yard the number I’d see was staggering. I’m sure there were others I din’t see.

I’ve never in 13 years seen a different bus / coach operator broken down in the area not even some of the ropey old school buses. I can’t recall more than one lorry either!

You can plate most standard 6x2 mid lift unit to 65t. Currently got Volvo fh4 and Merc actros’ plated to stgo2 65t. And had man tgx’s plated to 65t.

Just check before you buy as the Volvos can be replated to 65t but the Merc’s can only be done from the factory.