Trev_H. Sorry to hear that. It was probably one of the early models with the crappy drum or disc transmission brake.Hope you were O.K.after the incident.Regards,900X20. 
900X20:
Trev_H. Sorry to hear that. It was probably one of the early models with the crappy drum or disc transmission brake.Hope you were O.K.after the incident.Regards,900X20.
Yeh, it was one with the transmission disc brake, rolled away down the yard, I had my back to it never heard it coming, I was real lucky just got away with a crushed arm. Never thought much of TK’s since 
whilst on the spanners i went out to quite a few tks with broken half shafts where the hand brake was no use and drivers had sat in the cab with foot on the brake to stop it rolling away. and had to regularly change legs to stop the jitters, and a furniture guy with a tk who tried to replace the clutch on his slopeing drive, dropped the propshat and was run over by the van. the first km i had once had a slight air leak went into hamworthy eng poole left it outside the loading bay, had dinner with the lads in the factory as i got up to go back to the truck there was a loud bang and it rolled in through the closed roller shutter, roll on the days of spring brakes.
Two Haydons Bedfords here - one taken in 1960 (yes I know it’s not a TK or KM) and a little cracker taken in about 1988 or so. No photos of MVT 314E unfortunately.
hotel magnum:
and a furniture guy with a tk who tried to replace the clutch on his slopeing drive, dropped the propshat and was run over by the van.
I am sorry for laughing, but tears are pouring down my face now!!!
Wheel Nut:
hotel magnum:
and a furniture guy with a tk who tried to replace the clutch on his slopeing drive, dropped the propshat and was run over by the van.
We had an apprentice pull the half shaft from a TK, and then watched as it ran downhill into the garage wall. Foden’s used a similar device, but at least their’s was on the differential so the propshaft could be removed, NOT the halfshaft’s though (unless it was a twin rear axle) and of course Land Rovers were the same.
Pete.
I had the propshaft break on a loaded TK going up into Dolyhir quarry to fill up with diesel.The front end peice of the broken shaft dropped into the ground,so I had to sit with my foot on the brake until one of the quarry mechanics ran over and tied it up so that I could let the lorry back down onto the flat. The strain of reversing up ramps with 10 ton of lime and slag had taken it toll on the propshaft.
Dave the Renegade:
I had the propshaft break on a loaded TK going up into Dolyhir quarry to fill up with diesel.The front end peice of the broken shaft dropped into the ground,so I had to sit with my foot on the brake until one of the quarry mechanics ran over and tied it up so that I could let the lorry back down onto the flat. The strain of reversing up ramps with 10 ton of lime and slag had taken it toll on the propshaft.
The other word for it is “Driver Abuse” !!! Anon 1. Rough ■■■■■■■ !
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
I had the propshaft break on a loaded TK going up into Dolyhir quarry to fill up with diesel.The front end peice of the broken shaft dropped into the ground,so I had to sit with my foot on the brake until one of the quarry mechanics ran over and tied it up so that I could let the lorry back down onto the flat. The strain of reversing up ramps with 10 ton of lime and slag had taken it toll on the propshaft.The other word for it is “Driver Abuse” !!! Anon 1. Rough [zb] !
Driver Abuse no way, The man that designed the prop shaft with the daft transmission hand brake is to blame, Thank You, Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
I had the propshaft break on a loaded TK going up into Dolyhir quarry to fill up with diesel.The front end peice of the broken shaft dropped into the ground,so I had to sit with my foot on the brake until one of the quarry mechanics ran over and tied it up so that I could let the lorry back down onto the flat. The strain of reversing up ramps with 10 ton of lime and slag had taken it toll on the propshaft.The other word for it is “Driver Abuse” !!! Anon 1. Rough [zb] !
Driver Abuse no way, The man that designed the prop shaft with the daft transmission hand brake is to blame, Thank You, Larry.
Do I detect another abuser of TK’s?
Lawrence Dunbar:
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
I had the propshaft break on a loaded TK going up into Dolyhir quarry to fill up with diesel.The front end peice of the broken shaft dropped into the ground,so I had to sit with my foot on the brake until one of the quarry mechanics ran over and tied it up so that I could let the lorry back down onto the flat. The strain of reversing up ramps with 10 ton of lime and slag had taken it toll on the propshaft.The other word for it is “Driver Abuse” !!! Anon 1. Rough [zb] !
Driver Abuse no way, The man that designed the prop shaft with the daft transmission hand brake is to blame, Thank You, Larry.
Did they steal the idea off William Lyons after he fitted inboard discs to his Jaguars, or the Bentley / Rollers of the day had discs for stopping and drums for parking, there were others, Volvo. Citroen. Alfa Romeo.
Does anyone remember the Spanish “Telma” retarders, the trailers used an Albion axle or such like with an electromagnetic brake on the diff
Wheel Nut:
Does anyone remember the Spanish “Telma” retarders, the trailers used an Albion axle or such like with an electromagnetic brake on the diff
Weren’t they quite common on coaches (mid 70s?)? I have a vague memory of seeing the logo on the back of Plaxton Panorama Bedfords and Fords.
WE HAD AN EARLY LEYLAND TERRIER ON A MEAT FIRM i WORKED FOR IN THE EARLY 70S WHICH i AM SURE HAD A BRAKE ON THE PROP BECAUSE IT WAS ABUSED BY A LOT OF YOUNG DRIVERS WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A LAUGH TO SEE IT ROCKING BACK AND FORTH IF THEY PUT THE BRAKE ON WHILE STILL ROLLING, FRED M
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
I had the propshaft break on a loaded TK going up into Dolyhir quarry to fill up with diesel.The front end peice of the broken shaft dropped into the ground,so I had to sit with my foot on the brake until one of the quarry mechanics ran over and tied it up so that I could let the lorry back down onto the flat. The strain of reversing up ramps with 10 ton of lime and slag had taken it toll on the propshaft.The other word for it is “Driver Abuse” !!! Anon 1. Rough [zb] !
You have called me a rough barsteward before Dennis.But your motors did main road work .That TK was driven off road across fields and then reversed up ramps with lime and slag as well as clocking 300+ miles per day on the road for five years.When I starTed the boss said he was trying to keep it going for a few months until a new lorry that was on order came.It was sold to the quarry and used internally for several years !
cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
I had the propshaft break on a loaded TK going up into Dolyhir quarry to fill up with diesel.The front end peice of the broken shaft dropped into the ground,so I had to sit with my foot on the brake until one of the quarry mechanics ran over and tied it up so that I could let the lorry back down onto the flat. The strain of reversing up ramps with 10 ton of lime and slag had taken it toll on the propshaft.The other word for it is “Driver Abuse” !!! Anon 1. Rough [zb] !
You have called me a rough barsteward before Dennis.But your motors did main road work
cheers Dave.
Please do not take “a powder” Dave,the opertunity to have “a dig” must never be missed !!! As you well know,and practice,on numerous occaisions mate !!! If you are a “rive arse” driver you can expect to come to grief !!! Dennis,PS Will tear drops caused by surpressed laughter damage the keyboard ?
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
I had the propshaft break on a loaded TK going up into Dolyhir quarry to fill up with diesel.The front end peice of the broken shaft dropped into the ground,so I had to sit with my foot on the brake until one of the quarry mechanics ran over and tied it up so that I could let the lorry back down onto the flat. The strain of reversing up ramps with 10 ton of lime and slag had taken it toll on the propshaft.The other word for it is “Driver Abuse” !!! Anon 1. Rough [zb] !
You have called me a rough barsteward before Dennis.But your motors did main road work
cheers Dave.Please do not take “a powder” Dave,the opertunity to have “a dig” must never be missed !!! As you well know,and practice,on numerous occaisions mate !!! If you are a “rive arse” driver you can expect to come to grief !!! Dennis,PS Will tear drops caused by surpressed laughter damage the keyboard ?
No fear of me taking a powder Dennis.I give stick and can take It. I was merely saying why the propshaft broke due to the nature of the type of work the lorry was doing.The fact that it only had a four speed gearbox with no two speed axle didn’t help.
Keep giving me a kick Dennis 
.Please wear protective gear at all times because I will give you a kick back at the earliest opportunity
Cheers Dave.
fredm:
WE HAD AN EARLY LEYLAND TERRIER ON A MEAT FIRM i WORKED FOR IN THE EARLY 70S WHICH i AM SURE HAD A BRAKE ON THE PROP BECAUSE IT WAS ABUSED BY A LOT OF YOUNG DRIVERS WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A LAUGH TO SEE IT ROCKING BACK AND FORTH IF THEY PUT THE BRAKE ON WHILE STILL ROLLING, FRED M
No transmission brake on a Terrier, the early ones had Nitrogen over Hydraulic brakes with an engine driven pump fed with brake fluid from a tank on the rear of the cab and 2 Nitrogen cylinders behind the front bumper providing the power. They were later altered as they were a little complicated, plus the Nitrogen cylinders required specialist recharging equipment and, due to their location, were very vulnerable in a front end smash.
Pete.
Dave dont worry about getting stick, at least we have taken trucks where many folk would not dream of going with them and tipping at all sorts of angles with the body leaning right over, made you clench the old ’ ar*e cheeks’ together! Foden’s were bad for breaking shaft’s if you got bogged down when they were fitted with air assisted clutches, you couldn’t ‘feel’ the bite as the clutch was actually lighter than the throttle! Bigger KEMPF shafts solved the problem.
Of course some folk’s idea of going off road with a truck was putting a wheel on the kerb… 
Pete.
windrush:
Dave dont worry about getting stick, at least we have taken trucks where many folk would not dream of going with them and tipping at all sorts of angles with the body leaning right over, made you clench the old ’ ar*e cheeks’ together! Foden’s were bad for breaking shaft’s if you got bogged down when they were fitted with air assisted clutches, you couldn’t ‘feel’ the bite as the clutch was actually lighter than the throttle! Bigger KEMPF shafts solved the problem.Of course some folk’s idea of going off road with a truck was putting a wheel on the kerb…
Pete.
Hi Pete,
Main road drivers and motorway merchants. Get them up a narrow road and they get in the ditch. Going back to tipping on the ramps,it was nice to have a lorry with power and a two speed axle that you could just crawl up them quietly.It was better with a six wheeler than a four because you couldn’t topple the ramps.I’ve seen one or two do that and smash the diesel tank and batteries when the ramps came up under the body.
Cheers Dave.
ParkRoyal2100:
Wheel Nut:
Does anyone remember the Spanish “Telma” retarders, the trailers used an Albion axle or such like with an electromagnetic brake on the diffWeren’t they quite common on coaches (mid 70s?)? I have a vague memory of seeing the logo on the back of Plaxton Panorama Bedfords and Fords.
The Telma retarder on a coach did work on the transmission, but these on the Spanish trailers were just a diff with no drive to it. well except from the wheels obviously.