Ho do fellas, am I right in thinking that when your on a percentage and basic (loophole) wage it is a legal requirement for the driver to be able to see a break down of the rates for each job so he knows he is not getting ripped off.
We I worked in the quarry on percentage only years back we had I mileage sheet so we knew what we were getting per job, fair enough but now it seems the employer can just pay what they like and you never know what your outcome is until pay day then are we just to sit back and trust what the gaffer pays.
Can we question it and get a break down? Am I in my rights to ask for a break down?
Thanks all in advance.
akaday:
Ho do fellas, am I right in thinking that when your on a percentage and basic (loophole) wage it is a legal requirement for the driver to be able to see a break down of the rates for each job so he knows he is not getting ripped off.
We I worked in the quarry on percentage only years back we had I mileage sheet so we knew what we were getting per job, fair enough but now it seems the employer can just pay what they like and you never know what your outcome is until pay day then are we just to sit back and trust what the gaffer pays.
Can we question it and get a break down? Am I in my rights to ask for a break down?
Thanks all in advance.
of course you can but then the gaffer can say like it or lump it , personally I wouldn’t wont to work like that…
hourly pay or salaried that’s the way
Some of our lads are on percentage and get a printout of every job they have done that week and the rate for the job. Another firm just gives there lads a payslip with work done on it and a total amount of money, ask for the rate and all the pants job will follow.
Your boss must definetly give you a breakdown off the work done. You ought to then make a record in a diary off all the jobs you do and add the job rate to it as you get notified, then after a while you’l be able to quiery rates, if the same job pays less from one time to another. This will also help you to estimate your earnings prior to receiving them, which will help you notice discrepencies sooner.
I’ve been on percentage in the past, both full and part earnings, and I never found it a problem, but in my expeirience you have to be on top off your diary, and allways quiery. After a while once the penny drops that you wont let any discrepencies pass, you’ll not get further problems 
my father in law is on percentage and has just busted his boss for not paying right. get the info you need as eddie says 
eddie snax:
Your boss must definetly give you a breakdown off the work done. You ought to then make a record in a diary off all the jobs you do and add the job rate to it as you get notified, then after a while you’l be able to quiery rates, if the same job pays less from one time to another. This will also help you to estimate your earnings prior to receiving them, which will help you notice discrepencies sooner.I’ve been on percentage in the past, both full and part earnings, and I never found it a problem, but in my expeirience you have to be on top off your diary, and allways quiery. After a while once the penny drops that you wont let any discrepencies pass, you’ll not get further problems
…except the inevitable P45 once you’re known to be a boat-rocker! 
Winseer:
eddie snax:
I’ve been on percentage in the past, both full and part earnings, and I never found it a problem, but in my expeirience you have to be on top off your diary, and allways quiery. After a while once the penny drops that you wont let any discrepencies pass, you’ll not get further problems…except the inevitable P45 once you’re known to be a boat-rocker!
That will depend on your work ethic. in my experience, if your a grafter and as such will earn well, then your unlikely to get the boot no matter how often you queiry your wages. A gaffer never wants to lose a grafter no matter often they complain,
Surely a grafter becomes a troublemaker when they DO start to complain?
Assuming of course they actually follow the complaint up, which tends not to be the English Way I guess…
Sure, if you turn up for your 84 hour week moaning about the £6.25ph pay cut off at hour 48 to boot, then the gaffer is ■■■■■■■ himself laughing all the way to the bank that you even turned up at all!
It has nothing to do with him being a grafter or not.
“Hard work” has nothing to do with “long hours” and “low pay” is what I’m saying here.
Neither is a person who doesn’t complain and just gets on with it necessarily a “grafter” either.
thort % pay was ilegal now?
Winseer:
“Hard work” has nothing to do with “long hours” and “low pay” is what I’m saying here.
Neither is a person who doesn’t complain and just gets on with it necessarily a “grafter” either.
And percentage isnt allways about long hours, its about working effeicently. I’ve been better off hour for hour on some percentage work, than on hourly, its all swings and round abouts, my thing is dont run away with the idea that percentage work is cowboy work, thats to black and white. there’s a thread on here about a £7ph artic job, how many hours do you need too make that a living wage. So whats worse dragging the hours out to make a wage, or pushing on to get a job done, I know what i prefer
I’m on salary now but offered percentage or hourly, i’d more than likely take percentage, obviously depending on rates hourly/percentage.
On salary I dont stand around at coffee machines chewing the cud to get an extra half hour, I crack on use my hours and park up asap, similar to how I worked percentage
thort % pay was ilegal now?
As long as you have a basic garenteed minimum I beleave its then OK, so no full percentage
% is ok as long as you’re one of the blue eyed boys, getting all the best jobs. If you’re not % is absolute crap.
kindle530:
% is ok as long as you’re one of the blue eyed boys, getting all the best jobs. If you’re not % is absolute crap.
I know what you mean on that score, unfortunatly its not confined to percentage, and is the very reason I packed in my last job, and that paid hourly. There is a limit to how slow you can drive, and reached mine