Bert Wolters:
2 TNT Atki’s from Down UnderSalut, Bert
Nice photos there, Bert, thank you.
NZ JAMIE:
Some great old pics there again 240 mate. As I said before Carry Fast mate,there are some good jump ups north of Alice and if you read the ‘Jake Brake’ advert it says that there are grades of 1 in 7. And being an advert for ‘Jakes’ you would think that it is promoting good engine braking on hilly sections.
Anyhow back to Atkis,this pic comes from a cover of a great picture book,but sadly it gives no info on the old banger.
Well Jamie, what can you expect from an irritating little ■■■■■■ who doesn’t think there are any hills Down Under? 
As you say, back to the Atkis, which is what you started the thread for!
And finally, one a bit closer to home for you in NZ:
Good one mate,I think that was the first Auzzie built Atki ? Note as well as the indecators there is a white hand on a stick,these make me laugh,there must have also been one on a longer handle for the L/H side. They weren’t just an Atki thing all trucks had them. Interesting bit of blurb about the Taylor Hull Atki’s,I work in Lower Hutt,so I’ll ask a few of the older fellas about them. They sure look different hey? ‘most meritorious’ in fact or what ever that means.
Found this one today,note the ‘Leyland’ not AEC Mammoth Major,this was quite common down under in the 70’s as Leyland became the more dominant force,although it’s very much an AEC.
And then there’s this ripper,another Kiwi Atki,this has to one of my favourite truck pics,absolute classic. She would have been well frieghted close to 40 ton. The road from Blenhiem to Nelson at the top of the South Island has some fairly tough pulls and this old banger would have worked it’s 150 Gardner bloody hard.
240 Gardner:
NZ JAMIE:
Some great old pics there again 240 mate. As I said before Carry Fast mate,there are some good jump ups north of Alice and if you read the ‘Jake Brake’ advert it says that there are grades of 1 in 7. And being an advert for ‘Jakes’ you would think that it is promoting good engine braking on hilly sections.
Anyhow back to Atkis,this pic comes from a cover of a great picture book,but sadly it gives no info on the old banger.
Well Jamie, what can you expect from an irritating little ■■■■■■ who doesn’t think there are any hills Down Under?
I never said that there were’nt any hills down under what I actually said was that high weights and hills and Gardner engines are just about the worst mixture possible 
but it’s not surprising that a Gardner fan would find that irritating. 
NZ JAMIE:
And then there’s this ripper,another Kiwi Atki,this has to one of my favourite truck pics,absolute classic. She would have been well frieghted close to 40 ton. The road from Blenhiem to Nelson at the top of the South Island has some fairly tough pulls and this old banger would have worked it’s 150 Gardner bloody hard.That’s stating the bleeding obvious and it’s probably the understatement of the year except for the idea that the Ozzies also used that motor to pull over twice that weight
NZ JAMIE:
And then there’s this ripper,another Kiwi Atki,this has to one of my favourite truck pics,absolute classic. She would have been well frieghted close to 40 ton. The road from Blenhiem to Nelson at the top of the South Island has some fairly tough pulls and this old banger would have worked it’s 150 Gardner bloody hard.
Cracking photo Jamie, and it must have been at least 7 years old then! Thanks for posting.
NZ JAMIE:
Good one mate,I think that was the first Auzzie built Atki ? Note as well as the indecators there is a white hand on a stick,these make me laugh,there must have also been one on a longer handle for the L/H side. They weren’t just an Atki thing all trucks had them. Interesting bit of blurb about the Taylor Hull Atki’s,I work in Lower Hutt,so I’ll ask a few of the older fellas about them. They sure look different hey? ‘most meritorious’ in fact or what ever that means.
To be honest Jamie, I don’t know if that was the first one assembled out there or not. Pete Lynch will know, I’m sure. The white hand is pretty neat, eh??
As far as I can gather the Taylor Hull cab still didn’t measure up fully, and the RP cab ended up superseding it and even replacing in-service TH cabs. But yes, they certainly look different!
Carryfast:
I never said that there were’nt any hills down under what I actually said was that high weights and hills and Gardner engines are just about the worst mixture possible
Carryfast:
even at 45 mph you’d have had a difficult job keeping to that journey time even though there are’nt that many hills there probably
The only irritating thing around here is you, as noted by several of us. I’m actually a part-owner of a ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ lorry, and have been involved in historic Leylands and Thornycrofts and operating fleets from Atkinson Borderers through to the Scania 114s and the full current Volvo range. It’s a business where economics rule - you’ve signally failed to grasp that despite the many comments on other threads pointing this out to you.
And since you’re picking up Jamie on typos, I’m sure that your massive intellect would have intended you to say “aren’t” rather than “are’nt”, and “weren’t” rather than “were’nt”.
Carryfast:
I’m actually for once making some positive comments
Therefore, by default…
Carryfast:
the guvnor decided to give me a 400 horse + Detroit powered roadtrain
I cannot conceive of any employer letting you in through the gates to drive anything larger than a Collis truck — “Bewick” and I between us have employed hundreds of proper drivers — your attitudes clearly preclude you from this. You sound more like a 15-year-old ‘wannabee’ who has talked his way up and down the M1.
Carryfast:
and the ones who would’nt give me a job when I was a new driver in the 1980’s
Eminently sensible people. Neither would I, and I had a policy of employing new drivers with the right attitudes, so that we could train them fully into experienced drivers with a broad range of skills. That many are still with the same firm over 20 years later speaks volumes.
Carryfast:
I was only running around 400 miles on a night trunk in 7+ hours with a wagon which was running at 65 mph
Sums you up. Now, don’t you have a busy railway line to go and play on?
could we keep the interesting photos coming please ? and is there not a thread somewhere for engine/mechanical talk only or could some people go and make one so others know what to avoid.
Exactly, Glenman - shall we carry on where we left off? Let us hope we are not interrupted again.
Here’s are some more of Kirby’s for NZ Jamie:
And a couple from Mobil Oil (NZ), who were big Atkinson customers down there:
Finally, in case anyone thinks that the Gardner 6LXs were hard worked, then how about this one which was spec’d with a Gardner 6LW - why, I can’t imagine!
Atkinson retained a well-known cartoonist, Brian Chandler, to provide drawings for their house magazine - he also provided a weekly cartoon for Comical Motor during that period. Models depicted often reflected the marketing focus at the time - here’s one of the RP cab whilst still relatively new to the market.
Here’s the only Taylor Hull one I’ve seen - there’s even one of a Krupp-cabbed Atkinson, but it’s not relevant to this thread!
240 Gardner:
And a couple from Mobil Oil (NZ), who were big Atkinson customers down there:
Finally, in case anyone thinks that the Gardner 6LXs were hard worked, then how about this one which was spec’d with a Gardner 6LW - why, I can’t imagine!
Hiya 240 How are you doing with researching the Bewick Sed/atks ? and would you be able to find out the gen on the Borderers ? Make yourself useful instead of wasting your time having slanging matches with that T**t Carryfast!!! ( Theres nothing between his ears as he is sat on his brains !!) Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
Hiya 240 How are you doing with researching the Bewick Sed/atks ? and would you be able to find out the gen on the Borderers ? Make yourself useful instead of wasting your time having slanging matches with that T**t Carryfast!!! ( Theres nothing between his ears as he is sat on his brains !!) Cheers Bewick.
I’m hoping for some chassis number info on your 400s one day! Don’t worry, I’ve nothing more to say to the resident troll - as I get older, my tolerance threshold for the intellectually sub-normal is reducing rapidly! What do you want to know about your Borderers? I’m sure you must know more about them than I do!
Top pics again mate,
I like the logging truck she would have had her fuffer hanging out when carting logs out of the bush. Nice pic of the tanker parked up,that’s Wellington in the background. The Mobil oil fuel storage tanks are right next to the yard that I work in now.
Another Couple of Kiwi’s tonight,some of you may have seen these before,I posted them a while ago.
Again great photos of classic waggon and drag combo.or as they’re know here ‘Truck and Trailer’ Te Kuiti,‘The sheep shearing capital of the world’ in the central North Island where these trucks are from has some very big climbs. And again like most Kiwi trucks these ■■■■■■■ powerd Atkis would have done it tough carting stock.
NZ JAMIE:
Top pics again mate,
I like the logging truck she would have had her fuffer hanging out when carting logs out of the bush. Nice pic of the tanker parked up,that’s Wellington in the background. The Mobil oil fuel storage tanks are right next to the yard that I work in now.
Another Couple of Kiwi’s tonight,some of you may have seen these before,I posted them a while ago.
Again great photos of classic waggon and drag combo.or as they’re know here ‘Truck and Trailer’ Te Kuiti,‘The sheep shearing capital of the world’ in the central North Island where these trucks are from has some very big climbs. And again like most Kiwi trucks these ■■■■■■■ powerd Atkis would have done it tough carting stock.
Ah, but they’re worth seeing again Jamie - very evocative pics. Looking at those sunvisors, though, makes me think you must have had some very short drivers over there! You see, in a Mk.1 U.K. cab, anyone over about 5’8" has to stoop down to see under the top of the screen, and here you have the visors restricting the view even further! That’s why the U.K. Mk.2 cab has bigger screens, so you can actually sit up and look straight ahead! I was surprised, too, that they’d reverted to the 2-piece screens for the newer motors.
I shall dig out some more pics later
240 Gardner:
Bewick:
Hiya 240 How are you doing with researching the Bewick Sed/atks ? and would you be able to find out the gen on the Borderers ? Make yourself useful instead of wasting your time having slanging matches with that T**t Carryfast!!! ( Theres nothing between his ears as he is sat on his brains !!) Cheers Bewick.I’m hoping for some chassis number info on your 400s one day! Don’t worry, I’ve nothing more to say to the resident troll - as I get older, my tolerance threshold for the intellectually sub-normal is reducing rapidly! What do you want to know about your Borderers? I’m sure you must know more about them than I do!
Hiya 240 Re. Bewick Borderers I was wondering if there was anything like an Atky Register or if any of the old girls were still in captivity and as you are probably the most informed source what better place to start Chris Swinney at Milnthorpe tells me that what you don’t know about Atky’s can be written on the back of a stamp !!! Cheers Bewick.PS I can give you some Reg Nos if you want .
240 Gardner:
Carryfast:
I never said that there were’nt any hills down under what I actually said was that high weights and hills and Gardner engines are just about the worst mixture possibleCarryfast:
even at 45 mph you’d have had a difficult job keeping to that journey time even though there are’nt that many hills there probablyThe only irritating thing around here is you, as noted by several of us. I’m actually a part-owner of a ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ lorry, and have been involved in historic Leylands and Thornycrofts and operating fleets from Atkinson Borderers through to the Scania 114s and the full current Volvo range. It’s a business where economics rule - you’ve signally failed to grasp that despite the many comments on other threads pointing this out to you.
And since you’re picking up Jamie on typos, I’m sure that your massive intellect would have intended you to say “aren’t” rather than “are’nt”, and “weren’t” rather than “were’nt”.
Carryfast:
I’m actually for once making some positive commentsTherefore, by default…
Carryfast:
the guvnor decided to give me a 400 horse + Detroit powered roadtrainI cannot conceive of any employer letting you in through the gates to drive anything larger than a Collis truck — “Bewick” and I between us have employed hundreds of proper drivers — your attitudes clearly preclude you from this. You sound more like a 15-year-old ‘wannabee’ who has talked his way up and down the M1.
Carryfast:
and the ones who would’nt give me a job when I was a new driver in the 1980’sEminently sensible people. Neither would I, and I had a policy of employing new drivers with the right attitudes, so that we could train them fully into experienced drivers with a broad range of skills. That many are still with the same firm over 20 years later speaks volumes.
Carryfast:
I was only running around 400 miles on a night trunk in 7+ hours with a wagon which was running at 65 mphSums you up. Now, don’t you have a busy railway line to go and play on?
This is a photo of Farrier Corpral Dickinson Oliver, He was Thomas Bewick’s son-in-law and my Grandad this shot of him was taken in either France/Belgium sat on his charger “TANGO” during the 1914/18 war. I wish I could get him back to send him after Carryfast and I know where I would tell him to stick his Sabre !! yea youv’e all guest correctly right up his “jacksey” sharp end first !! "They don’t like it up 'em " Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
240 Gardner:
Carryfast:
I never said that there were’nt any hills down under what I actually said was that high weights and hills and Gardner engines are just about the worst mixture possibleCarryfast:
even at 45 mph you’d have had a difficult job keeping to that journey time even though there are’nt that many hills there probablyThe only irritating thing around here is you, as noted by several of us. I’m actually a part-owner of a ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ lorry, and have been involved in historic Leylands and Thornycrofts and operating fleets from Atkinson Borderers through to the Scania 114s and the full current Volvo range. It’s a business where economics rule - you’ve signally failed to grasp that despite the many comments on other threads pointing this out to you.
And since you’re picking up Jamie on typos, I’m sure that your massive intellect would have intended you to say “aren’t” rather than “are’nt”, and “weren’t” rather than “were’nt”.
Carryfast:
I’m actually for once making some positive commentsTherefore, by default…
Carryfast:
the guvnor decided to give me a 400 horse + Detroit powered roadtrainI cannot conceive of any employer letting you in through the gates to drive anything larger than a Collis truck — “Bewick” and I between us have employed hundreds of proper drivers — your attitudes clearly preclude you from this. You sound more like a 15-year-old ‘wannabee’ who has talked his way up and down the M1.
Carryfast:
and the ones who would’nt give me a job when I was a new driver in the 1980’sEminently sensible people. Neither would I, and I had a policy of employing new drivers with the right attitudes, so that we could train them fully into experienced drivers with a broad range of skills. That many are still with the same firm over 20 years later speaks volumes.
Carryfast:
I was only running around 400 miles on a night trunk in 7+ hours with a wagon which was running at 65 mphSums you up. Now, don’t you have a busy railway line to go and play on?
This is a photo of Farrier Corpral Dickinson Oliver, He was Thomas Bewick’s son-in-law and my Grandad this shot of him was taken in either France/Belgium sat on his charger “TANGO” during the 1914/18 war. I wish I could get him back to send him after Carryfast and I know where I would tell him to stick his Sabre !! yea youv’e all guest correctly right up his “jacksey” sharp end first !! "They don’t like it up 'em " Cheers Bewick.
Just sussed out who carryfast is now,he’s Billy Connolly,seen him tearing about on a trike spouting a load of jibberish.