Astran / Middle East Drivers

Suedehead:
Who was the biggest player on the m/e asia run?
Respect to Bob Paul and Michael Woodman for being the “pioneers” but were Asian/Astran the biggest or could it have been Rynart?

There were a few large state owned companies like Somat, Romtrans and Hungaro-camion, You also had Willi Betz, who also leased many trucks to somat.These companies had hundreds of trucks running to the middle east but could not enter saudi.

Spot on MOC!

Hello Crow, can you ask your Tony or Corrie if they can remember this company called Titan Roadways from Manchester.

adr:
Kicking up the dust!

It would be great if adr could scan the whole story and put it on here :smiley: .

Regards Steve

richmond:
I just done a trip, bilbao spain to daman, took ten days door to door, however, not a single thing went wrong, and amazingly a border never went wrong, hit it right every time, i would guess that normally it would take 12 to 14 days, however we go via italy greece, in the old days when you went eastern block, you could queue for days just to get into romo, so how the old boys did it quicker is beyond me,I find when i round trip i go faster on the way down and when i return it seems to take me a few days longer…

what about the air bags in aksoray lol

Sorry Steve dont remember that outfit looks like a Scammel crusader which normally only fitted Rolls Royce diesels. That brings me to a very strange one for you. The Scania I had Reg OOG 983 G was fitted with a Rolls Eagle 280 and a 9 speed Fuller gearbox driving a Scania double reduction diff. This had been done by Rolls for Samuel wIlliams who had become disenchanted with Scania engines. They also had OOG 980G fitted with a ■■■■■■■ same driveline This is not a tale it s 100 percent true. I drove that motor for 3 years on the continent,the biggest problem it ever gave was shearing the injection pump drive in Yugo, for some reason Rolls didn t use shims seemingly acommon fault,there was no provision for fitting them. I had it welded in Yugo for 300 Dinars and it was still running when we sold it to a firm somewhere over Glossop way.Hope this has entertained you regards Crow.

geoffthecrowtaylor:
Sorry Steve dont remember that outfit looks like a Scammel crusader which normally only fitted Rolls Royce diesels. That brings me to a very strange one for you. The Scania I had Reg OOG 983 G was fitted with a Rolls Eagle 280 and a 9 speed Fuller gearbox driving a Scania double reduction diff. This had been done by Rolls for Samuel wIlliams who had become disenchanted with Scania engines. They also had OOG 980G fitted with a ■■■■■■■ same driveline This is not a tale it s 100 percent true. I drove that motor for 3 years on the continent,the biggest problem it ever gave was shearing the injection pump drive in Yugo, for some reason Rolls didn t use shims seemingly acommon fault,there was no provision for fitting them. I had it welded in Yugo for 300 Dinars and it was still running when we sold it to a firm somewhere over Glossop way.Hope this has entertained you regards Crow.

Samuel Williams also had one fitted with a Gardner ! which was pretty gutless, I think the one with the ■■■■■■■ was very nose heavy. I used to see it parked in Coseley West Midlands many weekends, I think the chap that drove it later had a MAN.

keith the thief:

richmond:
I just done a trip, bilbao spain to daman, took ten days door to door, however, not a single thing went wrong, and amazingly a border never went wrong, hit it right every time, i would guess that normally it would take 12 to 14 days, however we go via italy greece, in the old days when you went eastern block, you could queue for days just to get into romo, so how the old boys did it quicker is beyond me,I find when i round trip i go faster on the way down and when i return it seems to take me a few days longer…

what about the air bags in aksoray lol

Got the quick fit fitter to do it, he done it in an hour, time is money cheif , im no slacker…lol :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Trev_H:

geoffthecrowtaylor:
Sorry Steve dont remember that outfit looks like a Scammel crusader which normally only fitted Rolls Royce diesels. That brings me to a very strange one for you. The Scania I had Reg OOG 983 G was fitted with a Rolls Eagle 280 and a 9 speed Fuller gearbox driving a Scania double reduction diff. This had been done by Rolls for Samuel wIlliams who had become disenchanted with Scania engines. They also had OOG 980G fitted with a ■■■■■■■ same driveline This is not a tale it s 100 percent true. I drove that motor for 3 years on the continent,the biggest problem it ever gave was shearing the injection pump drive in Yugo, for some reason Rolls didn t use shims seemingly acommon fault,there was no provision for fitting them. I had it welded in Yugo for 300 Dinars and it was still running when we sold it to a firm somewhere over Glossop way.Hope this has entertained you regards Crow.

Samuel Williams also had one fitted with a Gardner ! which was pretty gutless, I think the one with the ■■■■■■■ was very nose heavy. I used to see it parked in Coseley West Midlands many weekends, I think the chap that drove it later had a MAN.

Trev H, Gentlemen,Samuel Williams had become disenchanted with the overall cost of ownership of the 110s. Parts prices particularly, (although Sweden was an EFTA Country, which gave them parity, trade wise, they sought to recover margin on the replacement part prices, as did Volvo, I remember the astronomic price for F88 brake drums), and with the best will in the world Scanias cost big money for Williams at about 150000kms. I was aware of OOG 980G, and her 335 ■■■■■■■■ (Custom Torque), she was based in Birmingham, ran to Milan regularly, but never knew the reg of the Rolls Conversion, (thank you Keith), The people from Rolls Royce told me about her, when I was involved with the Saviem SM340 chassis fitted with the Eagle/9sp Fuller, (and what an eye opener that lorry was, my Froggie clients could not believe the performance, and economy). I heard the stories about a possible Gardner transplant,but I have no knowledge, or reg numbers, so perhaps she was really a tale, (happy to be proved wrong). Amazing what you learn on these threads, thank you , Cheerio for now.

keith the thief:

richmond:
I just done a trip, bilbao spain to daman, took ten days door to door, however, not a single thing went wrong, and amazingly a border never went wrong, hit it right every time, i would guess that normally it would take 12 to 14 days, however we go via italy greece, in the old days when you went eastern block, you could queue for days just to get into romo, so how the old boys did it quicker is beyond me,I find when i round trip i go faster on the way down and when i return it seems to take me a few days longer…

what about the air bags in aksoray lol

Dont start him off keith :unamused: :unamused: He wont shut up about his radio now :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

geoffthecrowtaylor:
Sorry Steve dont remember that outfit looks like a Scammel crusader which normally only fitted Rolls Royce diesels. That brings me to a very strange one for you. The Scania I had Reg OOG 983 G was fitted with a Rolls Eagle 280 and a 9 speed Fuller gearbox driving a Scania double reduction diff. This had been done by Rolls for Samuel wIlliams who had become disenchanted with Scania engines. They also had OOG 980G fitted with a ■■■■■■■ same driveline This is not a tale it s 100 percent true. I drove that motor for 3 years on the continent,the biggest problem it ever gave was shearing the injection pump drive in Yugo, for some reason Rolls didn t use shims seemingly acommon fault,there was no provision for fitting them. I had it welded in Yugo for 300 Dinars and it was still running when we sold it to a firm somewhere over Glossop way.Hope this has entertained you regards Crow.

I remember OOG983G I was only a kid at the time, my dad had just bought it, It was parked up in the old Springfields Transport yard at westinghouse road trafford park, He took me for a test drive and I thought it was going to take off! Thats how fast it was, It did suffer from diff problems, I remember he had to drive at about approx 50 mph to save the diff, Happy days, it stood him in good faith all those years on the continent sleeping across the engine in the boiling hot summer with the mosquitos biting! All the best son of crow…

gtpaul:

geoffthecrowtaylor:
Sorry Steve dont remember that outfit looks like a Scammel crusader which normally only fitted Rolls Royce diesels. That brings me to a very strange one for you. The Scania I had Reg OOG 983 G was fitted with a Rolls Eagle 280 and a 9 speed Fuller gearbox driving a Scania double reduction diff. This had been done by Rolls for Samuel wIlliams who had become disenchanted with Scania engines. They also had OOG 980G fitted with a ■■■■■■■ same driveline This is not a tale it s 100 percent true. I drove that motor for 3 years on the continent,the biggest problem it ever gave was shearing the injection pump drive in Yugo, for some reason Rolls didn t use shims seemingly acommon fault,there was no provision for fitting them. I had it welded in Yugo for 300 Dinars and it was still running when we sold it to a firm somewhere over Glossop way.Hope this has entertained you regards Crow.

I remember OOG983G I was only a kid at the time, my dad had just bought it, It was parked up in the old Springfields Transport yard at westinghouse road trafford park, He took me for a test drive and I thought it was going to take off! Thats how fast it was, It did suffer from diff problems, I remember he had to drive at about approx 50 mph to save the diff, Happy days, it stood him in good faith all those years on the continent sleeping across the engine in the boiling hot summer with the mosquitos biting! All the best son of crow…

Regards the other converted Scania 110, I think a guy called Aspin had one cant remember which one may have been OOG980G maybe the old man will remember. T.C Paul

gtpaul:

gtpaul:

geoffthecrowtaylor:
Sorry Steve dont remember that outfit looks like a Scammel crusader which normally only fitted Rolls Royce diesels. That brings me to a very strange one for you. The Scania I had Reg OOG 983 G was fitted with a Rolls Eagle 280 and a 9 speed Fuller gearbox driving a Scania double reduction diff. This had been done by Rolls for Samuel wIlliams who had become disenchanted with Scania engines. They also had OOG 980G fitted with a ■■■■■■■ same driveline This is not a tale it s 100 percent true. I drove that motor for 3 years on the continent,the biggest problem it ever gave was shearing the injection pump drive in Yugo, for some reason Rolls didn t use shims seemingly acommon fault,there was no provision for fitting them. I had it welded in Yugo for 300 Dinars and it was still running when we sold it to a firm somewhere over Glossop way.Hope this has entertained you regards Crow.

I remember OOG983G I was only a kid at the time, my dad had just bought it, It was parked up in the old Springfields Transport yard at westinghouse road trafford park, He took me for a test drive and I thought it was going to take off! Thats how fast it was, It did suffer from diff problems, I remember he had to drive at about approx 50 mph to save the diff, Happy days, it stood him in good faith all those years on the continent sleeping across the engine in the boiling hot summer with the mosquitos biting! All the best son of crow…

Regards the other converted Scania 110, I think a guy called Aspin had one cant remember which one may have been OOG980G maybe the old man will remember. T.C Paul

As an after thought I wonder if anybody can remember Springfield Transport and Warehousing Ltd (trafford park) the had quite a few outlets based in the trafford park area, My dad was a test pilot for the Volvo F88,s they were testing, I think he liked it as they supplied him with the 16 speed overdrive version,
Anyway after the trial which he gave the thumbs up (after driving the old F86,s) they then only supplied the 8 speed gearbox, windy hill never seemed the same again… Oh well back to the old gardner 240!

So long ago now I can’t remember much detail about this,other than some English guy I saw at the Hotel National with a Scania,don’t recall the model,a double drive that had had a pair of Albion axles fitted as they were supposed to be unbreakable.

mushroomman:
Hello Crow, can you ask your Tony or Corrie if they can remember this company called Titan Roadways from Manchester.

adr:
Kicking up the dust!

It would be great if adr could scan the whole story and put it on here :smiley: .

Regards Steve

I would willingly do that, but it was one of a few pics I found in a a mag’ that were on a single page, they might have originally been part of a whole story but I don’t have it, sorry!
Regards Chris

gtpaul:

gtpaul:

gtpaul:

geoffthecrowtaylor:
Sorry Steve dont remember that outfit looks like a Scammel crusader which normally only fitted Rolls Royce diesels. That brings me to a very strange one for you. The Scania I had Reg OOG 983 G was fitted with a Rolls Eagle 280 and a 9 speed Fuller gearbox driving a Scania double reduction diff. This had been done by Rolls for Samuel wIlliams who had become disenchanted with Scania engines. They also had OOG 980G fitted with a ■■■■■■■ same driveline This is not a tale it s 100 percent true. I drove that motor for 3 years on the continent,the biggest problem it ever gave was shearing the injection pump drive in Yugo, for some reason Rolls didn t use shims seemingly acommon fault,there was no provision for fitting them. I had it welded in Yugo for 300 Dinars and it was still running when we sold it to a firm somewhere over Glossop way.Hope this has entertained you regards Crow.

I remember OOG983G I was only a kid at the time, my dad had just bought it, It was parked up in the old Springfields Transport yard at westinghouse road trafford park, He took me for a test drive and I thought it was going to take off! Thats how fast it was, It did suffer from diff problems, I remember he had to drive at about approx 50 mph to save the diff, Happy days, it stood him in good faith all those years on the continent sleeping across the engine in the boiling hot summer with the mosquitos biting! All the best son of crow…

Did they have black and white paint job on their units?

David :smiley:

Regards the other converted Scania 110, I think a guy called Aspin had one cant remember which one may have been OOG980G maybe the old man will remember. T.C Paul

As an after thought I wonder if anybody can remember Springfield Transport and Warehousing Ltd (trafford park) the had quite a few outlets based in the trafford park area, My dad was a test pilot for the Volvo F88,s they were testing, I think he liked it as they supplied him with the 16 speed overdrive version,
Anyway after the trial which he gave the thumbs up (after driving the old F86,s) they then only supplied the 8 speed gearbox, windy hill never seemed the same again… Oh well back to the old gardner 240!

No fifth wheel youre thinking of Springfield Haulage which had adepot in Salford but were a Hull based outfit. Our Springfield were painted light blue. Regards Crow.

geoffthecrowtaylor:
No fifth wheel youre thinking of Springfield Haulage which had adepot in Salford but were a Hull based outfit. Our Springfield were painted light blue. Regards Crow.

Yes,you are right Crow,I now remember them,from Salford with HO in Hull.

Rgds,

David :smiley:

Bestbooties. Hello Ian looks like this thread is dying or all the tall tales have been told lets wait and see if anyone revives it ,regards Crow

Which tall tales do you mean Crow :confused: . Please enlighten us all with your superior wisdom :slight_smile: .

Don t take the mick Steve you know what i mean,I m getting this house ready so I can try to sell it and move away from this volcanic rock don t have time to sort the wheat from the chaff you ll have to do it yourself. Regards Crow.