Astran / Middle East Drivers

Hello Geoff and welcome to Trucknet :smiley: . It’s always good when somebody can add some more information on a post that was discussed quite a while back and I am sure that we all would like to see some of your old photos.
It sounds like Middle East Minerals had quite a bit of trouble with their trailers and is that Barry in the photo or is that you ? I remember that I was heading down when I took the photo and that the Scania was heading home so did Barry just leave the trailer in the customs compound in Belgrade or did he try to get the Scania down to the Middle East and end up leaving it at Maries ?

Regards Steve.

Were these the trucks that we shipped out to Iraq when I was at F.G. Hammond Intl.

They were used to ferry specialist sand for water treatment to the Khark water treatment plant.

geoffthecrowtaylor:
regarding the middle east minerals 142 scania it was i geoff taylor aka the crow who brought it back in jan or feb 1985 i picked it up from marias near ipsala on my way home from istanbul apart from damage to the chassis where the steering box is mounted there was nothing wrong with it it was operated by arran transport who took for ever to pay us i dropped it off at scanias brussels not gent as someone else said my brother tony and me called our co eastern european freight we had 4 f89s and 2 f88s the f89 iwas driving reg no svt 953n was ex comart stoke on trent bought from malcom harrison ihave loads of photos and when i learn how to dop it will post them regards to all the old boys the crow

Hey up Mr Crow are your ears burning? Just had Brooksy round all afto buying chains & dogs off Me & He was on about you.

Its Cooper here by the way…

wotcha mushrooman thats me in the photo another tractor unit of arran trans changed over at marias and took the trailer down to saudi or whereever it was going the damaged scania driver whose name ive forgotten said he couldnot go any further because it was steering all over the place what is your real name gule gule the crow

now then toad hall hope you got up front money off paul harvey regards crow

geoffthecrowtaylor:
now then toad hall hope you got up front money off paul harvey regards crow

Mr Toad only released the goods once cash had crossed my webbed paw!!! Nice taking money off Pablo I’ll tell ya!!!

Stay Safe Mr Crow

Hello Geoff, I can’t remember if we did exchange names did we ? You remember how it was back then, if you saw another British lorry coming towards you then you would flash your lights and wave although not everybody would wave back (miserable gits). Sometimes it didn’t matter if you were in the middle of nowhere or in the middle of a town, you might of pulled up and ask what the queue was like at the next border or you might even ask were there any other British lads in front of you. If there were, you often had an idea of where they could of been parking up that night and you might decide to join them (or avoid them). Some drivers on their way home might ask if you had a couple of spare tea bags or what the weather was like in front of you. You might never see that driver again or you could of been running with him a couple of months later. Well thats how I remember it, can anybody else remember parking on the hard shoulder of a motorway in the Commie Block and walking over to the other carrigeway to have a quick natter to a mate coming the other way.
I know that when I took your photo I was working for Dow Freight in Stockport at the time but I have no idea where the photo was taken, at a guess I would say somewhere in Czechoslavakia, have you any ideas ?

Regards Steve.


Twenty ton of Hazel nuts from Samsun on The Black Sea Coast for Cadburys.

Blimey Steve, is that loaded on a stripped down tilt trailer? Open TIR, eh?
Do tell,
rgds Ron

Hi Ron, yes it was open T.I.R. both ways. I.I.R.C. it was a tri axle Broshuise (not sure of the spelling but I think that it was Dutch) trombone trailer. These are some of the loads that we took out to Sinop. There is another member on here (not sure if it Chazzer) who also did one of these loads so it would be good to see his photos.
The two guys in this photo were Don Gibson whose company was called Bryce-Boyd from Liverpool and Brian (Nobby) Clark from Mansfield and the photo was taken by me old mucker Jimmy Walker.

Regards Steve.

Hi all.I think that was one of the joys of the job.You would be stopped in the middle of nowhere,when suddenly another truck would pull up alongside and the driver would make tea drinking motions.Maybe it was someone you knew or you had never seen but you had a chinwag for a while and then went your separate ways.
I always liked loading nuts in Ordu,Giresun or Trabson,they were nice guys.The only problems i had was either when there was a football match on the village tv,or the loading guys were playing another town at footi,then nothing got loaded.But to give them their due,they would play footi and then load the trucks in the evening.Hard working guys.Mike

R.I.P JOHN BRUCE
Astran driver John Leonard Bruce passed away on 8th Feb 2012. No further information at present other than he had a “massive bleed”.
I knew John quite well during the writing of The Long Haul Pioneers. He was a cheery soul, kind and very helpful.
Before working for Astran he had his own small fleet doing Greece and Turkey. After he suffered a heart attack while working for Astran, Bob Paul put him on traction work for Ferryline trailers running to local dsestinations in Europe. Then John got a job working for Ferryline themselves.
He was totally in love with his wife June who had stood by him through “thick and thin”. At one point John’s business nearly collapsed and the couple ended up with just £28 in the bank account!
He also leaves 2 daughters and thier familes. God bless you John; It was a pleasure knowing you;

John Bruce 1985

Sad news :cry: RIP driver :wink:

R.I.P mr bruce :frowning:

We only ever met John Bruce once and you could never of wished to meet a nicer person. Chris and myself spent a full day with John as our guide around Istanbul. I was amazed by his knowledge of the place and he showed us places that at the time were never on any tourist map. As well as taking us around The Grand Bazarre and The Blue Mosque, we crossed over to The Harem on the ferry and for most of the questions that we asked him he usually had a very interesting answer. When I asked him how he knew so much about the area I remember that he said, to him Istanbul was one of the most fascinating place that he had ever been to. John told us that he loved to read up about all the places that he went to, so that if ever he was delayed there he might actually go and see a place that he had only ever read about in a book.
For us it is a very sad day today and the world will be a sadder place for anybody who met John.
Our condolences go out to June and the girls.

Rest in piece John, it was more than a pleasure meeting you.
From Steve and Christine.

This is sad news…John was a fantastic bloke and a top driver…RIP John…

RIP

So sad - RIP John.

the ballad of the crow
whenmen grow old and their storys told
heres one thats mine
about a man you know they call the crow
and his old f89

he was working out of stockport
for afirm they call r j
one of the best but like all the rest
a little short on pay

now the crow he left from manchester

late one tuesday night
the 89 was sounding fine
as he roared off out of sight

he met the lads in dover
and the saga had begun
there was chambo there and brooksy
john willy and corrigan

it all went wrong in germany
thats where he first fell
the b a g as you willsee
were going to give him hell

they checked his load they checked his tyres
they checked his tachograph
and when they saw he had broke the law
even they began to laugh

youve driven to long you driven to fast
and you didnt have your rest
and then they took a sample
ot his diesel for atest
mein gott they cried when they looked at it
this isnt even rose
now you schweinhund englander
vott haff you to say

well there wasnt much that he could do
but plenty he could say
when a sour faced kraut with a vicious shout
said vee vill make you pay

the crow he looked them up and down
and fixed them with his eye

he rolled a ■■■ and took adrag
and then made his reply

so you think you are the master race
well lets get one thing clear
we won the war you got what for
now pee off out of here

but the coppers were determined
and the fine two thousand marks
and they heard him curse and call them worse
than robbing bleeding sharks

two thousand marks you rotten pigs
thats what the old crow said
its more than what the job is worth
we have to run on red

you pay or you stay they said to him
now get your wallet out
you thieving nasty bleeders
the crow was heard to shout

and so he paid it broke his heart
it broke his wallet too
then corrigan gently asked him
what will you tell sue
dont tell susan geoffrey wailed
what they have done to me
its no joke if i go home broke
its bread and jam for tea

so the lads all had a whipround
but five quids all they got
they said take a hint were all skint
so thats your bloody lot

the first frontier to cross was czech
and the crow might well have knew
at the border there they met
a massive 12k queue

i,m not waiting fumed the crow
and so he jumped the queue
and he wasnt on his own
cos the others followed too

they crept on down to the front of the line
down to the customs shack
but it didnt do them any good
cos they all got sent straight back

for fifteen hours they waited there
till at last they all got through
thank christ for that the crow exclaimed
the lazy bleeding crew

on thru prague and brno
the crow he drove like hell
but at bratislava he was stopped
by a big queue there aswell

well thats it ive had enough
im sorry i came here
a hundred trucks in front of us
and no/ones any beer

they sat all day they sat all night
and half the next day too
out of ■■■■ and out of booze
and bugger all to do

at last they were in hungary
and south of budapest
they stopped at the containers
for a shower and arest

the next they got to varsand
and joined another bloody queue
and they gave the crow a number
it was one hundred and twenty two

what is this he hissed at them
i do not wish to dance
ah but we know you youll jump the queue
if you get half the chance

for two long days they waited
fed up and bored to tears
smoking cigs beside their rigs
and drinking dutchmens beers

now on the rumo border
they weigh every single truck
and as we know the poor old crow
was way down on his luck

four hundred marks please mister
thats what said to him
now you must pay or theres no way
that you can come on in

four hundred marks for what my girls
thats what i want to know
well youve tempted fate your overweight
now you must pay or go

four hundred marks youve got no chance
you ugly bleeding hags
but he changed his mind when the one behind
saiod he could pay in ■■■■

two hundred cigs they quoted
and the crow thought that quite fair
so off he went for a carton of kent
and left them on their chair

that night they got todeva
and parked amongst the turks
im off tobed john willy said
and the lads all grinned and smirked

the next morning brooksy asked him
because he thought he should
how much lei he d had to pay
and was she any good

not bad not bad john willy said
scratching at his crutch
but i have to say ten thousand lei
was far to bloody much

that night they got to giourgiu
and i wonder if youve guessed
i bet you knew they d meet a queue
as long as all the rest

there were 12 long ks of lorries
parked in that border town
and gypsy spivs with clubs and chivs
were hanging all around

now those gypsies down in giourgiu
were nasty little crooks
they d pinch your ■■■■■ or even worse
nick your best ■■■ books

they would harrass every driver
and snarl give us your cash
or just for spite when its dark tonight
youll get your tilt sheet slashed

now the crow was sipping a danish beer
when they gathered round his truck
but they soon knew that low down crew
that they had come unstuck

the crow he looked them up and down
and setting his beer aside
jumped from his rig with a fresh rolled cig
and poked one in the eye

now just eff off you shifty lot
and stay away from me
and he gave a clout to the nearesr lout
and swiftly brought up his knee

the rest of them all scattered
for it was plain to see
the crow is bad when he is mad
and so they left him be

so the queue crept slowly forward
each drivers heart aquiver
till at last the danger past
they crossed the danube river

the motley crew they drove on through
and into bulgy land
the black old crow was first to go
the rest behind as planned
well a hundred clicks on down the road
the crow he said ta ta
cos the rest were full for istanbul
and he didnt go that far

now at sofia central customs
the parking is quite dear
you have to pay thirty marks a day
so theres not much left for beer

and just across the road from there
stands a big brothel
where you can eat and for atreat
you can have a girl aswell

its called the novotel europa
where theres agirl for everyone
but you have to pay ahundred marks alay
and thats not any fun

now the crows so mean and nasty
that he would never pay for ■■■
so he just took a lingering look
from one girl to the next

and drinking is expensivetoo
within that den of vice
so the crow went down to a bar in town
and the beer was half the price

but when he went to bed that night
he was woken with a shock
when three hairy whores knocked on his doors
with a sharp insistent knock

do you want ■■■ please mistyer
said one in a dulcet tone
if you like i can stay all night
or just play the saxophone

now the crow was getting angry
cos his sleep had been disturbed
but she jst said i m good in bed
and stood there unperturbed

a full service costs just thirty marks
so does that mean i m hired
but she didnt know how bad the crow
could be when he is tired

now the crow he looked her up and down
and if looks could kill shes dead
he rolled afag and took a drag
and this is what he said

thirty bleeding marks he roared
thats twenty pints of beer
besides i m skint you stupid bint
now eff off out of here

and so they left the crow alone
and tried the truck next door
and one gave agrin as she got in
cos now she knew she d scored

the next he cleared custom s
and tipped just down the rod
and in his short sharp way he phoned rj
for the address of his back load

he got afax from richard
who said he d done his best
so dont refuse the load of shoes
he d got from bucharest

you can eff right off with that said geoffrey
i ll be there half the week
if thats yoiur best you can shove the rest
i ll load myself from greek

and so he loaded out of greece
and caught the ferry boat
from patras to brindisi
twelve hours or more afloat

he drove on up through italy
he was down to bread and marge
he told the bloke that he was broke
and knocked the main peage

thru mt blanc and into france
he thought it really great
theres no queue you drive on thru
cos theres no need to wait

as he was passing by auxerre
he saw a supermarket
it said cheap beer is on sale here
so he found a place to park it

he d bought cheap ■■■■ in greece we know
and now he was full of beer
like as not he d flog the lot
and make his mates pay dear

at last he came to calais
and knew the worst was over
he rolled afag and took adrag
and caught the boat to dover

he said the eec will do for ne
and not a ba d little earner
so stuff rj ill get more pay
if i work for davies turner

and so he tipped in dartford
and had driven home by six
he parked his rig lit acig
and went into the ostrich

now the ostrich serves up good strong beer
and it doesnt cost the earth
but the crow said pull until its full
i want my moneys worth

the crow was looking him up and down
and just then susan came in
and with a shout she dragged himout
with awry and rueful grin

just get in this car
and sober up i say
cos rj s phoned and if youre home
you can lod up right away

youre going back to sofia
and you lod at 8am
the crow said nowt cos he d passed out
at the thought of it all again

this is the story of the crow
and none of it is lies
and since that day i ve heard him say
thats how the old crow flies

this epic was written originally bt my brother tony it was obviously from one queue to the nexto

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Normal trip for The Crow…

I enjoyed that one Geoff

I remember you from those days when I was working with Rod Holt. Chris Brearley and George Brook :stuck_out_tongue: