Tsco says Break for Driving if split first 15 min then 30 min
Working Time Directive first 30 min then 15 min
DHL says for Driving first 15 min then 30 min
Working Time Directive first 15 min then 30 min.
Is there one doing England South and the other England North like Footbal Clubs (Try to Win)
Or is just one of them Simply said “Wrong”
On which Religion shall we believe 
Tesco is wrong
Both are right, WTD can be 15, 15 & 15 if working between 9 - 12 hours, 15 & 15 if working between 6 - 9 hours.
Immigrant:
Tsco says Break for Driving if split first 15 min then 30 min
Working Time Directive first 30 min then 15 minDHL says for Driving first 15 min then 30 min
Working Time Directive first 15 min then 30 min.Is there one doing England South and the other England North like Footbal Clubs (Try to Win)
Or is just one of them Simply said “Wrong”On which Religion shall we believe
Apart from saying that the breaks for the working time directive can be split into parts of no less than 15 minutes the RT(WT)R doesn’t stipulate in what order the breaks should be taken.
The first part of a split driving break must be at-least 15 minutes and the second part must be at-least 30 minutes.
If the second part of a split driving break is less than 30 minutes it won’t count towards the break.
Breaks that are exclusively for the working time regulations can be taken in any order as long as each part is at-least 15 minutes long and you don’t go over 6 hours working time before having a break of at-least 15 minutes, also the breaks cannot be at the immediate start or immediate end of the shift they must interrupt the working time.
Immigrant:
Tsco says Break for Driving if split first 15 min then 30 min
Working Time Directive first 30 min then 15 minDHL says for Driving first 15 min then 30 min
Working Time Directive first 15 min then 30 min.Is there one doing England South and the other England North like Footbal Clubs (Try to Win)
Or is just one of them Simply said “Wrong”On which Religion shall we believe
Both are 50% wrong. Each have the driving breaks bit correct and the WTD breaks bit incorrect.
I don’t care if this helps or not.
It’s 15 & 30 or 30 & 30.
30 @ 15 is wrong. 15, 15, & 15 is also wrong.
Tescos make you take 30 & 30, and you’ve got to be on that first 30 min break before you’ve been on duty 6 hours.
Most other places, you need to be actually driving 4.5 hours (not just on duty 4.5 or 6 hours) before requiring a 45 min break, or split 15-30 (NOT 30-15!). 
If your shift lasts more than 6 hours you must take a break of 15 mins no later than the hour point.If your shift lasts for more than 9 hours you must take another 30 mins before the 9 hour point to make a total of 45 mins for the wtd.
Both got the driving bit right,
GV262-03:
Breaks:
— Mobile workers must not work more than 6 consecutive hours without taking a break.
— If your working hours total between 6 and 9 hours, working time should be interrupted by a
break or breaks totalling at least 30 minutes.
— If your working hours total more than 9 hours, working time should be interrupted by a break or
breaks totalling at least 45 minutes.
— Breaks should be of at least 15 minutes’ duration.
All the info you’ll need for WTD breaks is in the above paragraph. Company policy may exceed these requirements 
Bud143:
If your shift lasts more than 6 hours you must take a break of 15 mins no later than the hour point.If your shift lasts for more than 9 hours you must take another 30 mins before the 9 hour point to make a total of 45 mins for the wtd.
Nonsense. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift there is absolutely no requirement for any break at the 9 hour point. For the WTD if you took 15 minutes at 6 hours work the next break would be required before exceeding another 6 hours work or just before the end of the shift, whichever comes first. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift you also do not have to take the 45 minutes for the WTD as 15 and 30, you could do it as 3x15, 15 minutes at 6 hours work, 15 minutes at 12 hours work and 15 minutes before the end of the shift assuming you don’t reach 4.5 hours driving.
Furthermore the breaks also have nothing to do with shift length, it is the amount of work in the shift which triggers the breaks. I do a shift of between 8 and 9.5 hours a night but as I do not reach 4.5 hours driving or 6 hours work I don’t need a break for either set of regulations, I haven’t booked any break for nearly 10 months.
IF there is one thing that drives me up the wall its that stupid blooody WTD and the POA ,WHY THE HELL DO WE HAVE TWO SETS OF REGS WHAT A LOAD [zb].
Thanx to all Reply
Funny is that i got Assessed by tesco and DHL counted me wrong
So after some Time at DHL by theres Rules back to tesco which counted me wrong.
So i do 45 min each Time,but sometimes i have to split
So i do at tesco by theres Rules and DHL by there Rules
Result:
Im back at Tesco and get after downloading Card following Week no Work as i have illegal Break Split on it,then,after a while back to DHL which dont book me in after downloading Card as i have illegal Split-Break on my Card
So:How will i win?
you cant win…i dont know about tesco but i do know dhl is run by idiots.
Coffeeholic:
Bud143:
If your shift lasts more than 6 hours you must take a break of 15 mins no later than the hour point.If your shift lasts for more than 9 hours you must take another 30 mins before the 9 hour point to make a total of 45 mins for the wtd.Nonsense. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift there is absolutely no requirement for any break at the 9 hour point. For the WTD if you took 15 minutes at 6 hours work the next break would be required before exceeding another 6 hours work or just before the end of the shift, whichever comes first. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift you also do not have to take the 45 minutes for the WTD as 15 and 30, you could do it as 3x15, 15 minutes at 6 hours work, 15 minutes at 12 hours work and 15 minutes before the end of the shift assuming you don’t reach 4.5 hours driving.
Furthermore the breaks also have nothing to do with shift length, it is the amount of work in the shift which triggers the breaks. I do a shift of between 8 and 9.5 hours a night but as I do not reach 4.5 hours driving or 6 hours work I don’t need a break for either set of regulations, I haven’t booked any break for nearly 10 months.
In the vosa “guide” we got on our dcpc it says you have to!
Bud143:
Coffeeholic:
Bud143:
If your shift lasts more than 6 hours you must take a break of 15 mins no later than the hour point.If your shift lasts for more than 9 hours you must take another 30 mins before the 9 hour point to make a total of 45 mins for the wtd.Nonsense. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift there is absolutely no requirement for any break at the 9 hour point. For the WTD if you took 15 minutes at 6 hours work the next break would be required before exceeding another 6 hours work or just before the end of the shift, whichever comes first. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift you also do not have to take the 45 minutes for the WTD as 15 and 30, you could do it as 3x15, 15 minutes at 6 hours work, 15 minutes at 12 hours work and 15 minutes before the end of the shift assuming you don’t reach 4.5 hours driving.
Furthermore the breaks also have nothing to do with shift length, it is the amount of work in the shift which triggers the breaks. I do a shift of between 8 and 9.5 hours a night but as I do not reach 4.5 hours driving or 6 hours work I don’t need a break for either set of regulations, I haven’t booked any break for nearly 10 months.
In the vosa “guide” we got on our dcpc it says you have to!
Really? Which bit does it say you have to?
The break at 9 hours or me not having a break during my shift?
No where in the VOSA guide or the WTD regulations does it state a break is required at the 9 hour work point. If that is what you are referring to then I know where you are going wrong.
It also does not say I need a break in my shift I don’t do 4.5 hours driving so no break for the tacho rules and I don’t reach 6 hours of work so no break for the WTD.
Here is the VOSA guide, where does it say you have to do whatever you are saying has to be done?
Bud143:
Coffeeholic:
Bud143:
If your shift lasts more than 6 hours you must take a break of 15 mins no later than the hour point.If your shift lasts for more than 9 hours you must take another 30 mins before the 9 hour point to make a total of 45 mins for the wtd.Nonsense. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift there is absolutely no requirement for any break at the 9 hour point. For the WTD if you took 15 minutes at 6 hours work the next break would be required before exceeding another 6 hours work or just before the end of the shift, whichever comes first. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift you also do not have to take the 45 minutes for the WTD as 15 and 30, you could do it as 3x15, 15 minutes at 6 hours work, 15 minutes at 12 hours work and 15 minutes before the end of the shift assuming you don’t reach 4.5 hours driving.
Furthermore the breaks also have nothing to do with shift length, it is the amount of work in the shift which triggers the breaks. I do a shift of between 8 and 9.5 hours a night but as I do not reach 4.5 hours driving or 6 hours work I don’t need a break for either set of regulations, I haven’t booked any break for nearly 10 months.
In the vosa “guide” we got on our dcpc it says you have to!
As far as I’m aware this is the only current VOSA guide to drivers hours and nowhere in that guide does it say you must have a total of 45 minutes break before exceeding 9 hours if the shift is longer than 9 hours.
Sorry but you’ve obviously either been given bad informations or have misunderstood what you was told or shown.
If it’s a different guide you’re referring to perhaps you could let us know the name of it.
Coffeeholic:
Bud143:
If your shift lasts more than 6 hours you must take a break of 15 mins no later than the hour point.If your shift lasts for more than 9 hours you must take another 30 mins before the 9 hour point to make a total of 45 mins for the wtd.Nonsense. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift there is absolutely no requirement for any break at the 9 hour point. For the WTD if you took 15 minutes at 6 hours work the next break would be required before exceeding another 6 hours work or just before the end of the shift, whichever comes first. If you have more than 9 hours work in the shift you also do not have to take the 45 minutes for the WTD as 15 and 30, you could do it as 3x15, 15 minutes at 6 hours work, 15 minutes at 12 hours work and 15 minutes before the end of the shift assuming you don’t reach 4.5 hours driving.
Furthermore the breaks also have nothing to do with shift length, it is the amount of work in the shift which triggers the breaks. I do a shift of between 8 and 9.5 hours a night but as I do not reach 4.5 hours driving or 6 hours work I don’t need a break for either set of regulations, I haven’t booked any break for nearly 10 months.
Exactly what this man says !
I deal with a lot of tacho infringements and this man has it bang on !
xamtex:
you cant win…i dont know about tesco but i do know dhl is run by idiots.
I take it you work for them 