Are you supposed to take your digicard . .

weeto:

tachograph:
This may be of interest to some of you :wink:

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Surly though, if its an infringement it should flag up on analysis!
When I do a print out it shows I am in the UK.
It’s probably one of those trumped up offences VOSA like to make up.

As far as I know it’s been a requirement since Digi tachos were introduced. so I’d say that’s more of a problem with your analysis software or company than VOSA.

From the document Rules on Drivers’ Hours and Tachographs.

record the country in which they begin and end their daily work period. This must always be carried
out at the time of the start or end of the period, even if the card is not to be withdrawn or inserted (for
example if the card is left in overnight);

And looking at the enforcement policy you’d probably only get a Verbal Warning, if you have enough savvy to convince them you didn’t know, but of course if you don’t pass the attitude test than they can fine you. :wink:

muckles:

weeto:

tachograph:
This may be of interest to some of you :wink:

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Surly though, if its an infringement it should flag up on analysis!
When I do a print out it shows I am in the UK.
It’s probably one of those trumped up offences VOSA like to make up.

As far as I know it’s been a requirement since Digi tachos were introduced. so I’d say that’s more of a problem with your analysis software or company than VOSA.

From the document Rules on Drivers’ Hours and Tachographs.

record the country in which they begin and end their daily work period. This must always be carried
out at the time of the start or end of the period, even if the card is not to be withdrawn or inserted (for
example if the card is left in overnight);

And looking at the enforcement policy you’d probably only get a Verbal Warning, if you have enough savvy to convince them you didn’t know, but of course if you don’t pass the attitude test than they can fine you. :wink:

Point taken, so do you know wether this info would be on a print out, or is it just stored on the card?

weeto:

muckles:

weeto:

tachograph:
This may be of interest to some of you :wink:

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Surly though, if its an infringement it should flag up on analysis!
When I do a print out it shows I am in the UK.
It’s probably one of those trumped up offences VOSA like to make up.

As far as I know it’s been a requirement since Digi tachos were introduced. so I’d say that’s more of a problem with your analysis software or company than VOSA.

From the document Rules on Drivers’ Hours and Tachographs.

record the country in which they begin and end their daily work period. This must always be carried
out at the time of the start or end of the period, even if the card is not to be withdrawn or inserted (for
example if the card is left in overnight);

And looking at the enforcement policy you’d probably only get a Verbal Warning, if you have enough savvy to convince them you didn’t know, but of course if you don’t pass the attitude test than they can fine you. :wink:

Point taken, so do you know wether this info would be on a print out, or is it just stored on the card?

I don’t think it’s on the print out, but it must be on the card, I’m sure I’ve seen it on a data download by some Digi Tacho Software.

claretmatt:
I always do Start/End of day entries. Although it’s not worried about here, I bet it is in France or Belgium :wink:. Takes a second, no hassle really. I also leave the card in all week and come Monday morning, add an hour other work to end of shift Friday and to the start of the shift Monday morning for Kitting/De-Kitting.

VOSA love to see complete records and leaving your card in all the time is an excellent way of getting a complete record, as they can see what you’re not up to when the tacho is “out”, so to speak (I.E. not swapping trailers/driving to the chinky etc etc :wink: )

The problem with leaving it in is what do you do if you need to run get to maccy d

I would never need to run there !!! :confused:

bjd:

claretmatt:
I always do Start/End of day entries. Although it’s not worried about here, I bet it is in France or Belgium :wink:. Takes a second, no hassle really. I also leave the card in all week and come Monday morning, add an hour other work to end of shift Friday and to the start of the shift Monday morning for Kitting/De-Kitting.

VOSA love to see complete records and leaving your card in all the time is an excellent way of getting a complete record, as they can see what you’re not up to when the tacho is “out”, so to speak (I.E. not swapping trailers/driving to the chinky etc etc :wink: )

The problem with leaving it in is what do you do if you need to run get to maccy d

If you run to get a maccy d whilst you card is out, it will still be recorded on the head unit. :wink:
I don’t know if you’d get away with it for a maccy d run :smiley: Personally that fact you going to a Maccy D should mean they throw the book at you :laughing: But if you did have to move a truck during you rest period, it would be far better to have the card in and then do a print out and write an explanation, than to run without a card.

muckles:

bjd:

claretmatt:
I always do Start/End of day entries. Although it’s not worried about here, I bet it is in France or Belgium :wink:. Takes a second, no hassle really. I also leave the card in all week and come Monday morning, add an hour other work to end of shift Friday and to the start of the shift Monday morning for Kitting/De-Kitting.

VOSA love to see complete records and leaving your card in all the time is an excellent way of getting a complete record, as they can see what you’re not up to when the tacho is “out”, so to speak (I.E. not swapping trailers/driving to the chinky etc etc :wink: )

The problem with leaving it in is what do you do if you need to run get to maccy d

If you run to get a maccy d whilst you card is out, it will still be recorded on the head unit. :wink:
I don’t know if you’d get away with it for a maccy d run :smiley: Personally that fact you going to a Maccy D should mean they throw the book at you :laughing: But if you did have to move a truck during you rest period, it would be far better to have the card in and then do a print out and write an explanation, than to run without a card.[/quoAs shaggy once said it wasent me

bjd:

muckles:

bjd:

claretmatt:
I always do Start/End of day entries. Although it’s not worried about here, I bet it is in France or Belgium :wink:. Takes a second, no hassle really. I also leave the card in all week and come Monday morning, add an hour other work to end of shift Friday and to the start of the shift Monday morning for Kitting/De-Kitting.

VOSA love to see complete records and leaving your card in all the time is an excellent way of getting a complete record, as they can see what you’re not up to when the tacho is “out”, so to speak (I.E. not swapping trailers/driving to the chinky etc etc :wink: )

The problem with leaving it in is what do you do if you need to run get to maccy d

If you run to get a maccy d whilst you card is out, it will still be recorded on the head unit. :wink:
I don’t know if you’d get away with it for a maccy d run :smiley: Personally that fact you going to a Maccy D should mean they throw the book at you :laughing: But if you did have to move a truck during you rest period, it would be far better to have the card in and then do a print out and write an explanation, than to run without a card.

As shaggy once said it wasent me
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:laughing: :laughing:

when i was at TransAm, i would put the card in when i left the yard, and not take it out until i got back there again, usually away for 2-3 months a time. Coppers liked it that way as well if they checked you.

If you don’t eject the card, what do you get when printing out the days duties to sign? I always eject & print, then enter the starting & end destinations (just like on the old discs) & sign it. That way you can enter all the appropriate details on your weekly envelope there & then rather than wait till the end of your working week.

Born Idle:
If you don’t eject the card, what do you get when printing out the days duties to sign? I always eject & print, then enter the starting & end destinations (just like on the old discs) & sign it. That way you can enter all the appropriate details on your weekly envelope there & then rather than wait till the end of your working week.

why do a print out? there is no legal requirement to do one unless you are making up a nice storey of why you have gone over your time ect to write on the back :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Born Idle:
If you don’t eject the card, what do you get when printing out the days duties to sign? I always eject & print, then enter the starting & end destinations (just like on the old discs) & sign it. That way you can enter all the appropriate details on your weekly envelope there & then rather than wait till the end of your working week.

There’s nothing wrong with ejecting the card at the end of every shift, but wouldn’t it be easier to write what information you need to remember in a notebook rather than wasting all that printing paper ?

tachograph:

Born Idle:
If you don’t eject the card, what do you get when printing out the days duties to sign? I always eject & print, then enter the starting & end destinations (just like on the old discs) & sign it. That way you can enter all the appropriate details on your weekly envelope there & then rather than wait till the end of your working week.

There’s nothing wrong with ejecting the card at the end of every shift, but wouldn’t it be easier to write what information you need to remember in a notebook rather than wasting all that printing paper ?

+1. Why do print outs if there hasn’t been a problem? All you are doing is creating a legal document that you need to carry for 28 days.

My truck is 18 months old and I’ve only done 3 print outs in all that time and only because I’ve run a minute or two over my four and a half 'cos of traffic etc.

Any information an official may require is held on the card, so you’re just wasting expensive paper.

As a matter of interest; would the tacho head record that a printout had been done?

I’ve always wondered if it matters what mode you have it on when you eject the card. If you eject it while on other work, does it assume you’re doing other work until you put it back in again? Maybe I’m an idiot, but I always put it on break before ejecting.

Contraflow:
I’ve always wondered if it matters what mode you have it on when you eject the card. If you eject it while on other work, does it assume you’re doing other work until you put it back in again? Maybe I’m an idiot, but I always put it on break before ejecting.

On the version 1.4 and 2.0 VU our lot say to pop it on break before you get out in case you ■■■■ up the manual entry the next day. The amount of our drivers who have cocked up this simple task and told the tacho they have worked through the night is scary.

I spent the summer this year doing nights out and used to leave my card in.

After that job finished I went back on agency work, first shift in forgot to take my card out and didn’t realise until I got up next day. 12 hours of other work oops!

weeto:

muckles:

weeto:

tachograph:
Point taken, so do you know wether this info would be on a print out, or is it just stored on the card?

before you drive any vehicle fitted with a digi, and especially if it says " 28, driving without card " press down arrow to driver 1 entry and press it twice to cancel it off and begin country uk! That stores on the HEAD! then insert your card and then do your manuals ( if you’ve got to! ) other work ten , fifteen minutes for vostapos vehicle checks, then crack on to Macon! It’s not hard! :open_mouth: park up, select bed then scroll arrows down to driver 1 or END PLACE! select country and have hours off! :unamused: then drink, shag the locals and do whatever to dispose freely of YOUR time off! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

Fatboy slimslow:

weeto:
Point taken, so do you know wether this info would be on a print out, or is it just stored on the card?

before you drive any vehicle fitted with a digi, and especially if it says " 28, driving without card " press down arrow to driver 1 entry and press it twice to cancel it off and begin country uk! That stores on the HEAD! then insert your card and then do your manuals ( if you’ve got to! ) other work ten , fifteen minutes for vostapos vehicle checks, then crack on to Macon! It’s not hard! :open_mouth: park up, select bed then scroll arrows down to driver 1 or END PLACE! select country and have hours off! :unamused: then drink, shag the locals and do whatever to dispose freely of YOUR time off! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

Ftfy :wink:

I take out every night

Was weekendsd in spain couple years ago other driver parked up 4pm friday
Started 730 monday

Whilst out saturday un beknown had battery electrical problems
We were out on ■■■■ and got hotel in salou for night
Any way sunday afternoon git back to trucks and found his problem
Jump started him found tacho flicked to other work
On doing printouts and card down load when he got back
His card didnt show a 24 hour rest over the weekend

That main reason i take mine out every night/weekend

Recording your start / end country is required, not just for your location, but because it puts a “time stamp” on your record that signifies the actual start / end time of your duty.