Are classic cars doomed?

Is that a photo of a magazine?

No comment but it is mine as shown and obviously the lower one too.

Hmmmmmm. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

local big shot round my way has a really tatty old landrover but its fitted with the latest transit running gear. He is a multi millionaire but doesnt show it-long greasy hair puts out an image of being a biker who is skint -fine by me only his friends he hangs around are genuine ,down at heel types who have mental issues ,the sort who are friendly but really skint,jobless .

Bit like me but I’m not jobless lol.

Obviously not the Chevy V8 you were expecting.

I thought it was going to say SVR V8 running gear and it might even have been easier to do.
The new Defender is a great motor to drive.

he wouldnt do the conversion himself .As i say im not bothered whether he flaunts his wealth or not but hanging around with harmless but poverty stricken the type who mumble ,it is wrong in my eyes . Last year a classic motorbike rally came to town coming up in the rear was him on an old rusty moped with pedals [puch?] ,the poor guys cheap classic.Course it conks out by the lights and wouldnt start , crowds all watching him pedalling it suddenly it starts up to cheers from the crowd and he raise his hfist .Id wager he had a hidden switch so it cut out on cue and then he flicked it on .

Thinking about it ,i once knew another faker,he wasnt a multi millionaire this guy was a serving American Airman. In the local boozer Friday nights the bikers used to pull up, come in and take off their scarves,it had apparently been another long ride in the rain etc etc sit down to have a pint .They were all typical bikers long greasy hair ,really looked the part ,in among them peeling off his tattered scarf painted german ww2 helmet was the serviceman crew cut hair and yankee accent stuck out like a sore thumb .Thing is it hadnt been raining and non had ridden more than a mile i knew em all well.

Why would I expect a Chev? Jaguar never put the small block GM in them.
I am however, wondering why you can’t simply take a photo of your own car. :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

At the moment ‘that’ car as shown is sitting sorned in a forlorn state in the garage with an engine support bar across it because the front suspension assembly is disconnected since stupidly replacing the standard front wishbone bushes with urethane type which jammed the wishbone travel as can be seen in the photo of ‘that’ car being too low at the front.So had to put them back to standard.
While doing so found some corroded brake piping otherwise hidden by the front suspension cross member assembly.
It’s a very complicated pipe run from master cylinder to nearside front brake caliper.Which should be pre formed steel and plastic coated pipe.But no longer available from the unfit for purpose Jaguar classic parts scheme.About to get even worse.
Trying to hand form a replica pipe run in pathetic cupro nickel piping has proven to be beyond my pay grade.
In the meantime I put the whole job on hold having had to deal with all the complications of a bereavement and the more important priorities of running a house.
I’ll get you some more photos as it stands now.As I said at 2 Euros per litre and the unavailability of parts its autobahn storming days are over.
But I can assure you the pics shown are ‘that’ and my car.

Can you not remove the offending brake line and replicate it on the bench?
Alternatively, contact a Jaguar club, internationally if necessarily, they can be a valuable source of parts and advice.

https://www.jagqld.org.au/

To add as I remember it when previously talking about its 6 litre engine conversion you jumped to the conclusion of a typical American V8 job.

@carryfast If the factory designed the brake pipes to be fitted before the engine, then they won’t necessarily be easy to replace later. The Jag inboard brakes were not service friendly, I am told.

(In my own experience with a P38 Rangie the fuel tank filter is only accessible if the tank is dropped…or if a hole is bored in the floor above it. The factory were not thinking of service there IMHO. A plate with a gasket makes it as waterproof as anywhere else, and ant servicing much easier)

Anyway, if needed make the difficult brake pipe in sections. Much easier to fit.
Make sure you get decent heavy gauge stuff too, don’t buy the cheaper thin wall stuff. Invest in decent tools to form curves and bends and the (I assume) bubble ends to pipe.

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The access to remove and refit the main front cross brake pipe is ok with the suspension assembly dropped.Its the hand shaping of straight pipe which is the problem.
The rear pipework is all different and renewed on mine when converted to later XJS/300 outboard rear brakes.

It’s getting all the double curved bends exactly right in radius and angle and the cupro nickel material really doesn’t match the narrative in being workable in that regard.I’ve made multiple attempts at following the shape of the original pipework it looks perfect but invariably ends up either slightly too short or too long overall because of the compounding slight errors in all the bends.It is a job that requires the original factory jigs for the bends and original pipe material.Any slight discrepancies in the shape and fit will at best create stresses in the pipework if/when it’s fitted up.Also the garbage material clearly isn’t fit for purpose in being able to hold its required shape through bends.Thats why we went to the parts counter for the proper factory pre formed steel pipework not tried to create a rough knock off from lengths of straight copper nickel pipe in the shed by hand and eye.
That’s obviously not the only lack of factory support.The ally engine blocks are totally scrap in the event of an overheat.
So what did they do with factory engine block stock.They flooded em off for coffee tables.

I still reckon somewhere in the world, an enthusiasts’ club would have a solution.

A episode of wheeler dealers has them doing the pipe work from scratch
They make it look so easy with one little machine for the bends and heads

why not use that copper brake pipe? its so easy to bend compared to cupro nickel,easy to flare too.

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For the same reason that the factory used steel pipes not copper.It’s too soft and not strong enough to transmit hydraulic pressure.Or withstand the stresses between support points.Its why it was superseded by copper nickel alloy.
Bearing in mind that the problem is also lack of supply of intricate pre formed factory pipe runs.Added to the lack of product support of numerous other important components.
There are numerous maintenance points on these which are throw away and renew with new factory replacements.From engine parts to suspension etc.
Mercedes are, so far, said to be second to none in that regard.
But at best still a fuel consumption liability at close to £10 per gallon.