Appreciation For ROG's invaluable help

Big Brummie Macca:
I agree :smiley:

Maybe a way of blocking pm’s received from certain members should be brought in if there isnt a way and you can block emails from people you dont want them from anyway.

Or when someone is told you don’t want to receive PM’s from them or you tell them you are deleting the PM’s they send unopened they could stop sending them. Just a thought. :wink:

But then again if it is the type of person who routinely ignores request from people to stop using a particular term in relation to them they continue with the excuse - " I know you don’t like it but I am going to do it anyway" - and take about 6 months before finally stopping, I guess hoping they take the hint and stop sending PM’s is too much to ask. :imp: :smiling_imp:

Coffeeholic:

Big Brummie Macca:
I agree :smiley:

Maybe a way of blocking pm’s received from certain members should be brought in if there isnt a way and you can block emails from people you dont want them from anyway.

Or when someone is told you don’t want to receive PM’s from them or you tell them you are deleting the PM’s they send unopened they could stop sending them. Just a thought. :wink:

But then again if it is the type of person who routinely ignores request from people to stop using a particular term in relation to them they continue with the excuse - " I know you don’t like it but I am going to do it anyway" - and take about 6 months before finally stopping, I guess hoping they take the hint and stop sending PM’s is too much to ask. :imp: :smiling_imp:

I agree with you I said it would annoy me aswell, some people just dont take hints so a blocker would be a use full feature. Im not saying ROG is right in bombarding people with pm especially if he has been asked to stop doing it, like I said that if ROG has not listened to warnings from admin staff the situation should be dealt with how ever they deal with it.

You have had it aswell but you didnt feel the need to start a thread all about what fool ROG is did you, from what you have said you dealt with it without trying to round your mates up to sort it out.

My post was not saying it is okay, its not ROGs fault its the sites fault for not being able to block someones pms Im saying that something like this could be brought in for people that dont take the hint.

Just a little comment to venture…

I have no interest in the whole for or against ROG thing that’s going on, but unfortunately, what it has done is make me highly tentative about answering anyone’s questions. It used to be the case that everyone would chip in thier bit with what they thought, or what they’d heard, then others would jump in to correct things and all was discussed, and sorted.

Now, it feels like you are not allowed to venture an answer if you’re not 100% sure. I have answered some questions recently, but have been almost expecting to be shot down for daring to answer! :neutral_face: Surely, if you really need to know the definitive answer on something really important to do with drivers hours etc, shouldn’t you be checking it with VOSA rather than asking (sometimes) complete strangers? But if you’ve heard something and want to discuss it and see what others think, surely everyone should be allowed to have a say without having to have a degree in the subject?

grumpybum:
Just a little comment to venture…

I have no interest in the whole for or against ROG thing that’s going on, but unfortunately, what it has done is make me highly tentative about answering anyone’s questions. It used to be the case that everyone would chip in thier bit with what they thought, or what they’d heard, then others would jump in to correct things and all was discussed, and sorted.

Now, it feels like you are not allowed to venture an answer if you’re not 100% sure. I have answered some questions recently, but have been almost expecting to be shot down for daring to answer! :neutral_face: Surely, if you really need to know the definitive answer on something really important to do with drivers hours etc, shouldn’t you be checking it with VOSA rather than asking (sometimes) complete strangers? But if you’ve heard something and want to discuss it and see what others think, surely everyone should be allowed to have a say without having to have a degree in the subject?

You should continue posting like everyone else. Rog made a rod for his own back because he posted factually incorrect info on a daily basis but posted in a way that it was 100% correct and not up for debate. There’s a big difference between that and someone who posts saying “this is my understanding, I’m not 100%, someone correct me if I’m wrong” etc. :slight_smile:

RobK:

grumpybum:
Just a little comment to venture…

I have no interest in the whole for or against ROG thing that’s going on, but unfortunately, what it has done is make me highly tentative about answering anyone’s questions. It used to be the case that everyone would chip in thier bit with what they thought, or what they’d heard, then others would jump in to correct things and all was discussed, and sorted.

Now, it feels like you are not allowed to venture an answer if you’re not 100% sure. I have answered some questions recently, but have been almost expecting to be shot down for daring to answer! :neutral_face: Surely, if you really need to know the definitive answer on something really important to do with drivers hours etc, shouldn’t you be checking it with VOSA rather than asking (sometimes) complete strangers? But if you’ve heard something and want to discuss it and see what others think, surely everyone should be allowed to have a say without having to have a degree in the subject?

You should continue posting like everyone else. Rog made a rod for his own back because he posted factually incorrect info on a daily basis but posted in a way that it was 100% correct and not up for debate. There’s a big difference between that and someone who posts saying “this is my understanding, I’m not 100%, someone correct me if I’m wrong” etc. :slight_smile:

Its not often I agree with robk, but on this occassion he is right. Unfortunatly, Rog is his own worst enemy at times. If he only stuck to what he knows best, ie the newbies, then this wouldn’t have happened. And as has already been posted, some of the things he’s been posting as “factual” could cost someone a lot of money in fines.

Well by the look of things he has chosen not to post any more, which I think is a loss to the newbies but there are other trainers who are doing the job at the minute to advise newbies. Should all just be left alone now which is what I was trying to say in the first place just went about it the wrong way :blush:

it might be the 3 bottles of bud talking but how the hell can one member out of 17,000 or so have 2 entire topics each well on there way to 3 pages dedicated to him…sure he clearly rubbed some people up the wrong way more than once but surely we have better thinsg to talk about than the username ROG. i bet he is basking in the glory that he has caused so much apparant uproar…cant we just put him to the back of our minds and carry on as normal…may be not.

…carry on chaps, rant over.

CC out.

Cruise Control:
it might be the 3 bottles of bud talking but **how the hell can one member out of 17,000 or so have 2 entire topics each well on there way to 3 pages dedicated to him…**sure he clearly rubbed some people up the wrong way more than once but surely we have better thinsg to talk about than the username ROG. i bet he is basking in the glory that he has caused so much apparant uproar…cant we just put him to the back of our minds and carry on as normal…may be not.

…carry on chaps, rant over.

CC out.

That’s nothing compared to same old topics on here. I can remember one member in particular having a Government petition to Tony Blair at 10 Downing Street to bring him back from a ban. :open_mouth: :smiley:

:whistling smiley:

RobK:

Cruise Control:
it might be the 3 bottles of bud talking but **how the hell can one member out of 17,000 or so have 2 entire topics each well on there way to 3 pages dedicated to him…**sure he clearly rubbed some people up the wrong way more than once but surely we have better thinsg to talk about than the username ROG. i bet he is basking in the glory that he has caused so much apparant uproar…cant we just put him to the back of our minds and carry on as normal…may be not.

…carry on chaps, rant over.

CC out.

That’s nothing compared to same old topics on here. I can remember one member in particular having a Government petition to Tony Blair at 10 Downing Street to bring him back from a ban. :open_mouth: :smiley:

:whistling smiley:

I wonder who that could have been :grimacing: :grimacing:

Long live ROG :laughing:
He helped me out plenty of times with various questions i needed answering and the good thing about a forum is someone will soon be along to correct any mistakes in the previous posts & so on & so forth…

So I thank ROG for all his help and never annoying me with multiple stupid annoying personal messages! :smiley:

my problem being rog somehow got my email address…its not on my profile or nothing so how the hell he got it i dont know, i dont care about rogs problems if he doesnt want to post here fine…does it look like i give a ■■■■. the fact being he emailed me 3 times today even after the first time i told him to go away. he is probably stalking the forums right now to see what everybodys saying about him.

plus if he wants to get off pre mod hes not going to by not coming on here to post.

Big Brummie Macca:
My point is not about what ROG posts, he has got things wrong and I agree that taking that wrong advice could cost someone a fortune I am not arguing about that at all.

My problem is that a pathetic thread was started to open all the doors to the lets kick ROG in the balls club and I dont think that is fair there are better ways to tell someone they are wrong than slagging them off at the earliest opportunity I do not know what has gone on in the past and do not wish to get into the right and wrong doings of someone. All I will say is if ROG has not heeded to warnings he has recieved about his posts then the appropriate action should be taken which it has.

Gogzy could of easily dealt with this in a private manor like an adult instead of gossiping like girls in a school play ground.

Intresting comments from the guy who joined in the feeding frenzy of dinostevus :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

Was this thread needed?
probabaly not, however if we locked every unneeded thread on here it would be a very quiet forum,

Did this thread break forum rules?
yes and was quite rightly and fairly moderated !

Do we all have better things to talk about?
I hope so, the situation with Rog has been explained as far as the team will do within our own guidelines of not going into detail about any actions/discussions between the team and individual members.

Can anyone exttract your e-mail from the databsae if its hidden?
Not as far as we know, the only people that can actually see the e-mail adress you registered with is the forum admins. Me, Lucy, Mrs Mix, Ken and Denis F

Is someone ■■■■■■■ you off on the forums?
use the friend/Foe feature, it means you wont see there posts

If you are recieveing unwanted messages via e-mail sent through the forums contact the team- and if needed we can stop the member causing problems from using that feature

Probably googled gogsy and found his email that way, this has been discussed before and done to death.

gogzy:
seriously why be soo petty as to go around and get everybodys email addy and then email them as to why your

you could be fornicating with a chicken for all i care

I never got an email…feeling very left out now… :frowning:

Anyway…

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I don’t mind an occasional PM if it is relevant to a post, but this was almost spamming. If you read the Yahoo news boards there is a comment box and these are normally full of adverts for drugs, ipods, music downloads and other spurious links. I don’t want to read them. It is the same in this case.

I mentioned the strength of Trucknet, it is about sharing information, jokes, knowledge, rumours and event happenings. It defeats the job if messages are sent secretly or at least privately, it is tantamount to whispering in the playground. I mentioned in a recent thread i had received over 30 private messages, some were for a good reason, some were from new users or virgin posters who maybe did not want to appear silly. There is a search facility on these forums, not everyone uses it, and to be honest it is not the best facility on this site. But someone asks a question, however daft it may seem to them and it will be answered or a previous discussion will be linked to that post, occasionally the admin team will have a tidy up & merge similar threads if they are too much alike.

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RobK:

grumpybum:
Just a little comment to venture…

I have no interest in the whole for or against ROG thing that’s going on, but unfortunately, what it has done is make me highly tentative about answering anyone’s questions. It used to be the case that everyone would chip in thier bit with what they thought, or what they’d heard, then others would jump in to correct things and all was discussed, and sorted.

Now, it feels like you are not allowed to venture an answer if you’re not 100% sure. I have answered some questions recently, but have been almost expecting to be shot down for daring to answer! :neutral_face: Surely, if you really need to know the definitive answer on something really important to do with drivers hours etc, shouldn’t you be checking it with VOSA rather than asking (sometimes) complete strangers? But if you’ve heard something and want to discuss it and see what others think, surely everyone should be allowed to have a say without having to have a degree in the subject?

You should continue posting like everyone else. Rog made a rod for his own back because he posted factually incorrect info on a daily basis but posted in a way that it was 100% correct and not up for debate. There’s a big difference between that and someone who posts saying “this is my understanding, I’m not 100%, someone correct me if I’m wrong” etc. :slight_smile:

What he said.

pete-b:

Big Brummie Macca:
My point is not about what ROG posts, he has got things wrong and I agree that taking that wrong advice could cost someone a fortune I am not arguing about that at all.

My problem is that a pathetic thread was started to open all the doors to the lets kick ROG in the balls club and I dont think that is fair there are better ways to tell someone they are wrong than slagging them off at the earliest opportunity I do not know what has gone on in the past and do not wish to get into the right and wrong doings of someone. All I will say is if ROG has not heeded to warnings he has recieved about his posts then the appropriate action should be taken which it has.

Gogzy could of easily dealt with this in a private manor like an adult instead of gossiping like girls in a school play ground.

Intresting comments from the guy who joined in the feeding frenzy of dinostevus :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

Dino situation is completely different the bloke got a knock back and spent ages moaning about it, everyone knows that knock backs are part of this job especially when you are a newbie. He wasn’t good enough so should of just accepted it instead of writing pages and pages moaning and whining. Also he got all the sympathy and other advice from people on here but just threw it back in there face and started ranting about how hard done by he was.

Dino could of just wrote about his experience and said at the end of the day he didn’t come up to the mark, came back over here and found him self a job and got some experience and give it a go again. Now I think he has blown any chance he may have if the opportunity comes around again.

I have made my point and about this post and cant be botherd to carry on arguing about it, If I don’t like something I will say something about it you lot may think I am wrong and yes I often go about things the wrong way some of the things I said to Gogzy were out of order and for that I apologise but I stand by what I was saying about the reason this post was started.

It has been ROGs decision to stop posting so I agree he should leave it at that and not be emailing everyone moaning about this and that but what DD says are the site rules so they should be dealt with in private.

I don’t really want to fall out with anyone over this, to me it is not important enough and after reading through comments from other people I can understand why Gogzy, Coffee, Rob and others would be ■■■■■■ off there is more to this story than I know so am going to leave it at that.

hey its only the internet so no hard feelings

There is no hard feeling from my side, like I say I dont like the reason it was posted but after reading through the various other posts from people I do understand.

Again I apologise for the things I said I was out of order I dont know you and have no right to make personal remarks about you.

You would think that all the trouble my temper has caused me in the past I would learn to bloody control it :blush: