Anyone want to be a train driver?

Norfolknewbie:

ajt:

fredthered:
What’s so good about teachers? Look at the dross they’re turning out to be the future of the country! You even need a degree now to be ‘just’ a dole worker! Although those that know how to milk it earn good money. PMSL!

To be fair to teachers, its society which spawns these problem children in the first place and all a teacher has as powers is the power of speech.

Maybe if we brought back 2 parent families and the cane society might turn out with a bit of respect and self worth :blush:

Oh dear how very Dail Mail of you lol

Yes, but pretty accurate…lol

Teachers have a curriculum to stick to and a policy to make lessons fun.

It is not the fault of the teachers but instead the ones that write the curriculum and school policies.

wildfire:
the only problem is doesn’t it put you into the 4o% tax bracket :confused: :confused: :confused:

Yeah but your full wage isnt taxed at 40%

Id be a train driver the morra, i would give a ■■■■ about what shift i had to do. Id give anything to tell my boss to stick his job up his arse.

Although the training salary is like a 10k drop in wages in the long run it would be worth it.

Thing is would these train people welcome lorry drivers as applicants or turn their nose up at us?

merc0447:

wildfire:
the only problem is doesn’t it put you into the 4o% tax bracket :confused: :confused: :confused:

Yeah but your full wage isnt taxed at 40%

Id be a train driver the morra, i would give a [zb] about what shift i had to do. Id give anything to tell my boss to stick his job up his arse.

Although the training salary is like a 10k drop in wages in the long run it would be worth it.

Thing is would these train people welcome lorry drivers as applicants or turn their nose up at us?

In my experiance in the rail industry (17 years this time around and 2 the first time around) It wouldnt matter if you drive a truck, it may even help.
I also done the entry appitiude test that an earlier poster mentioned with Virgin trains back in 2000. I failed it the first time but passed it the second time after i went back 3 months later (that was the minimum time lapse you could leave before a re-try.)
With all due respect, 98% of people on here would fail it at the first hurdle, its f-in hard as ■■■■! It made my class 1 HGV test feel like a walk in the park. The application forms are also notoriously difficult to complete properly. Rule knowledge tests are frequent and also very in depth before passing out and after!!
I didnt get a job driving trains in the end anycase, but knowing what i know now, im glad i didnt. Its alot tougher now than you’d think being a train driver. All the train opperating companys are now on a 4 day week, yes, thats 4 days for between 40 and 50 grand a year depending on who you drive for BUT these TOC’s are so pushed for man power, you normally HAVE to work overtime, they can make life “difficult” for you if you dont. Pluss if you get in anyway stressed out, the job will kill you!!

Gembo:

merc0447:

wildfire:
Rule knowledge tests are frequent and also very in depth before passing out and after!!

So could you please list the 32 instances when you can pass a signal at danger :smiley:

john_london:

Gembo:

merc0447:

wildfire:
Rule knowledge tests are frequent and also very in depth before passing out and after!!

So could you please list the 32 instances when you can pass a signal at danger :smiley:

You must be ■■■■■■ joking :laughing: :laughing:
Im guessing 1 maybe when the signaller gives you authority to do so if your train is occupying the track circuit for that signal? Apart from that, No your honour :laughing:

dar1976:
Teachers have a curriculum to stick to and a policy to make lessons fun.

It is not the fault of the teachers but instead the ones that write the curriculum and school policies.

+1

As an ex signalling and telecoms engineer with Network rail before I, in a fit of stupidity which I still dont understand, handed my notice in to run my own business which I then sold to be a lgv driver,

the ONLY time you can pass a signal at danger is after stopping at the said signal and obtaining permission from the signalman, there MAY be 32 reasons WHY the signalman will give you permission to pass a signal at danger, ie track circuit failure for one, but normally you would have to proceed at caution speed which is 5mph!

Ive had a cab ride in a train doing 40mph and it requires CONSTANT concentration, no texting or talking to ur missus on the mobile or picking ur nose whilst eating a BLT, remember, a passenger train doing 110mph will take 1 and 3/4 miles to stop and a fully loaded freightliner doing 50 about the same distance, so route knowledge is essential and everytime you see a rail worker on the track ur heart skips a beat as u blow ur horn so he knows u are there and moves out of the way!!!

Its not for the faint hearted at all but I for one would love to do the job, especially freight at nites, its a very hard, complex but rewarding career.

sane-scotty:
As an ex signalling and telecoms engineer with Network rail before I, in a fit of stupidity which I still dont understand, handed my notice in to run my own business which I then sold to be a lgv driver,

the ONLY time you can pass a signal at danger is after stopping at the said signal and obtaining permission from the signalman, there MAY be 32 reasons WHY the signalman will give you permission to pass a signal at danger, ie track circuit failure for one, but normally you would have to proceed at caution speed which is 5mph!

Ive had a cab ride in a train doing 40mph and it requires CONSTANT concentration, no texting or talking to ur missus on the mobile or picking ur nose whilst eating a BLT, remember, a passenger train doing 110mph will take 1 and 3/4 miles to stop and a fully loaded freightliner doing 50 about the same distance, so route knowledge is essential and everytime you see a rail worker on the track ur heart skips a beat as u blow ur horn so he knows u are there and moves out of the way!!!

Its not for the faint hearted at all but I for one would love to do the job, especially freight at nites, its a very hard, complex but rewarding career.

Whey hey, a rules and regulations discussion on a lorry forum :smiley:

I passed my rules back in 1989 so I may be a little rusty. There were 32 instances when a driver could pass a signal at danger. Only about half of them involved getting permission from a signalman. Of the remainder most of them were related to Absolute Block working. For example a driver may pass an Intermeadiate block signal at danger after waiting a specified time provided there is no contact with the controlling signalbox.

I’m afraid that when I was train driving I ate plenty of sandwiches, drank cups of tea and had chats with the guard. In reality the job isn’t that hard but does require concentration. Once you know the road and are familiar with the braking characteristics of the train you’re driving it’s quite simple.

I turned down a job with Good old British Rail when I was 16, as a traction trainee, I took an apprenticeship instead, biggest mistake of my life, if only I could turn back time. :frowning:

Me to my dad worked on the railways all i needed to do was ask and the job was mine,how stupid was i

The guard is the man
Who rides in the van
Which is found at the rear of the train.

The driver up front
Thinks the guard is a ■■■■
And the guard thinks the driver’s the same.

:wink:

(1950’s British Rail ditty)

They get the money because the union says if they dont then the trains dont run,east europeans can not come and undercut them as they do with bricklayers mechanics electicians ect, easy realy support a good union and bobs your uncle.

perkibre:
I turned down a job with Good old British Rail when I was 16, as a traction trainee, I took an apprenticeship instead, biggest mistake of my life, if only I could turn back time. :frowning:

Yeah me too. Wouldn’t have seen the inside of the ville (Pentonville)

ahhhh, absolute block working of course, alittle before my time and didnt have anything to do with it not being a signalman or driver. I stand corrected!

john_london:

Gembo:

merc0447:

wildfire:
Rule knowledge tests are frequent and also very in depth before passing out and after!!

So could you please list the 32 instances when you can pass a signal at danger :smiley:

These are the ones I have to memorise.

Passing a signal at dangerÂ

P ilotman working applies
A ssist another train
S ingle line working
A dvance starting of a signal
D efective Signal
S hunting purposes
P ossession limit
E mergency permissive
L evel crossing equipment failure
L imiting point of isolation
E xamin the line
D ivided train

kr79:
I would live to but I’m colour blind.

DITTO! :frowning:

Hi everyone
As a coach driver, one of the things i never get involved with is coupling and uncoupling. Is it quite a complex affair on trucks? How does the procedure compare with this :

m.youtube.com/watch?v=U5CFab3xER4

Coupling a truck to a trailer and coupling a locomotive to a train are different, but I wouldn’t say one was more complicated than another.