Any cyclists want to explain

chester:
All about surface area.

So if they grip so well, what’s wrong with the cycle paths? It’s all in the surface area don’t forget! :laughing: :laughing: :unamused: :unamused:

You will never convince anyone with any common sense that cyclists are safer on a major road mixing it with powered vehicles than they are on a specially built cycle path away from other traffic. Irrespective of the tyres fitted.

Truckulent:

chester:
All about surface area.

So if they grip so well, what’s wrong with the cycle paths? It’s all in the surface area don’t forget! :laughing: :laughing: :unamused: :unamused:

You will never convince anyone with any common sense that cyclists are safer on a major road mixing it with powered vehicles than they are on a specially built cycle path away from other traffic. Irrespective of the tyres fitted.

Iam not trying to convince anyone, rewind back a little the OP asked a question why would a cyclist chose not to use a path if one was present, so I answered.

In case you missed, you lot turned it into a debate on tyres en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_slick

Unfortunately for you a cycle is allowed on the road so it’s a matter for you to grasp and accommodate other road users.

Truckulent:
So if they grip so well, what’s wrong with the cycle paths? It’s all in the surface area don’t forget! :laughing: :laughing: :unamused: :unamused:

Hell do you not give up! High pressure thin tyre on wet moss/dew is the reason some cyclist might not use a path. Please think about it.

Cyclists are a law unto themselves because they don’t know any better, they are not required to prove their knowledge of highway code, hazard perception and so on, nor do their vehicles have to be demonstrably fit for the road, nor do they make any financial contribution to roads, cycle paths or anything else, (and don’t get me started on lack of any kind of insurance) and yet, a truck ‘road rissoles’ one or two and there is a serious discussion about banning wagons from city centres so as not to bend the bicycles, I mean, WTF■■?

chester:

Truckulent:

chester:
All about surface area.

So if they grip so well, what’s wrong with the cycle paths? It’s all in the surface area don’t forget! :laughing: :laughing: :unamused: :unamused:

You will never convince anyone with any common sense that cyclists are safer on a major road mixing it with powered vehicles than they are on a specially built cycle path away from other traffic. Irrespective of the tyres fitted.

Iam not trying to convince anyone, rewind back a little the OP asked a question why would a cyclist chose not to use a path if one was present, so I answered.

In case you missed, you lot turned it into a debate on tyres en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_slick

Unfortunately for you a cycle is allowed on the road so it’s a matter for you to grasp and accommodate other road users.

Not unfortunate for me fella. I couldn’t care less whether cyclists want to use the road or not, their choice. I simply don’t think your reasons as stated to the OP for not using a cycle path make any sense whatsoever. At least not to anyone with any perception of risk. I have the choice of falling off on a cycle path and bumping my knee, or falling off on the road and going under a 44t artic. Hmmm?? Which to choose?? :unamused:

Nor have I any desire to grasp any cyclists - I wouldn’t be seen dead grasping a cyclist thank you. :laughing: It’s true i have to accommodate cyclists when driving. I’m well used to compensating for the appalling road sense of cyclists…had years of practise… :laughing:

Yeah but I drive trucks and ride bikes and can see the argument both sides, something others on here could benefit with.

I just want to leave this here.

Justified bitchslapping or not?

Rob K:
I just want to leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JepRJC1DVCM

Justified bitchslapping or not?

Not

chester:
Yeah but I drive trucks and ride bikes and can see the argument both sides, something others on here could benefit with.

Two wheels since I was old enough Chester albeit the powered variety; but it does give me some empathy towards the problems faced by cyclists. I’m not against 'em either; I just wish that some of them would display just a bit of the immaculate road sense they expect the rest of us to have. And a bit less self-righteousness wouldn’t go amiss either.

I spend a good deal of my driving time on single-track country lanes in a tourist area, so looking out for cyclists is second nature. I normally stop and let them pass me, same as I do with horses. Most nod or wave to acknowledge, but I’ve had more than one stop to lecture me on how big heavy lorries shouldn’t be on country lanes. Sometimes it’s very difficult to be diplomatic when explaining that farms are not normally located on industrial estates! :stuck_out_tongue:

Rob K:
I just want to leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JepRJC1DVCM

Justified bitchslapping or not?

Note how many drivers stopped to help the cyclist :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

That video would have been so much more entertaining if the cyclist was a black belt uber ninja.

As it stands it was just a massive over reaction by someone who clearly needs to take a chill pill. Even still he deserve a stern telling off by the popo.

marlow:

Rob K:
I just want to leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JepRJC1DVCM

Justified bitchslapping or not?

Not

Not also, in fact, I’d have kicked the ■■■■ out of the fat ■■■■ and then drove his car into a building to tech the fat git a lesson.

I also cycle on my time off when I get the chance, I do it to keep fit which helps me deal with that type of fat git with a decent outcome :smiling_imp:

There’s ALWAYS someone harder, this time it was white van man, next time it’ll be the guy who he attempts to assault.

chester:

Truckulent:
Nope I aren’t…

This is the UK matey, not Florida. It can rain anytime! Why would you ride a bike on slicks in a country famous for ‘sudden downpours?’ :unamused:

Like I’ve stated Iam a mountain biker I don’t ride any bike with slicks!

But go into any bike shop and nearly all racing bikes will have slicks on, almost every one who has a racing bike will have slicks on. The only time you see tread is on hybrid or commuter bikes. seriously are saying all racing cyclists thatthey are using the wrong tyres!

A slick racing bike tyre on Wet Tarmac is fine, on mossy, dewey cycle paths they are not, surely you can understand that.

But regular use of the provided cycle/footpath would shift the mossy/droppings/dew residue which is the point of this thread, cyclist using the road rather than the adjacent cycle path.

Rob K:
I just want to leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JepRJC1DVCM

Justified bitchslapping or not?

I believe this chap is suffering the consequences now :wink: the logo on his hoodie and the van certainly matches the same logo on his website.

The tool was not charged by the police for the incident due to home office guidelines. Despite denying it to start with, then saying he got hit first, when shown the evidence on film he admitted it, therefore no action could be taken. However Chris Boardman, former Olympic cycling champ posted it on his twitter page and the chap has been getting loads of abuse, so much so that the cyclist getting hit has pleaded with people to leave him alone. It’s also affected his business to the extent that his work has almost dried up.
Shame.

Smoggie89:
Why is it they ride along a busy stretch of road when there is a nicely painted and clear cycle lane on the left hand side of them ? Just because they wear hi-viz and helmet doesn’t mean they will not got nocked off and ran over. Gets right on my ■■■■, it’s not like we start driving along the pavement when it’s busy even though there is no1 on the road … Rant over

Much of the time, if you are a competent cyclist, riding positively on the road would be much better and safer than riding on a cycle lane, with kids, Dorris with her basket and the odd pedestrian.

We all have to remember the road is there for everyone to use and many cycle lanes are there just so a local council can say we’ve got x miles of cycle lanes, without much thought as to overall consideration.

If in doubt about this point of view, take a look at what the Dutch have achieved in most of their cities.

I see what you are getting at, but I’m on about 2 or 3 people if that on a cycle lane and the road is busy with traffic etc yet they still ride down the inside , but when the lights are red they just ride through them ? It’s like they think they are king of the road coz they wear a helmet

It’s not just in town they cause problems.

Pete the post:
It’s not just in town they cause problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok_utVg7-tU&feature=youtu.be

Whereabouts in the video was the problem? I drive STGO 3, today I was 120tons and I also managed to get passed a group of roadies. Although I didn’t feel the need to show everybody :question:

I edited the film so you didn’t have to sit through 20 minutes of a queue of trucks waiting to pass the numpties at 10mph when they could’ve used the cycle lane that runs NEXT TO THE ROAD!