Taken directly from the Gov website, the newly announced relaxation of drivers hours for retail drivers has now been confirmed.
gov.uk/government/publicati … -retailers
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CookieMonster:
Taken directly from the Gov website, the newly announced relaxation of drivers hours for retail drivers has now been confirmed.
gov.uk/government/publicati … -retailersSent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
It won’t make a slight bit of difference the pack will follow the pack, it won’t have gone far enough for the 70 hours a week merchants
They will still want more hours and less rest and shorter breaks
It’s a once in a lifetime to demand change but will never happen
When you lose your job you will have plenty of time to ponder the lost couse you missed
Bigtruck3:
CookieMonster:
Taken directly from the Gov website, the newly announced relaxation of drivers hours for retail drivers has now been confirmed.
gov.uk/government/publicati … -retailersSent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
It won’t make a slight bit of difference the pack will follow the pack, it won’t have gone far enough for the 70 hours a week merchants
They will still want more hours and less rest and shorter breaks
It’s a once in a lifetime to demand change but will never happen
When you lose your job you will have plenty of time to ponder the lost couse you missed
Hard to see how you can get any more hours or less breaks.
11 hours driving a day instead of 9.
9 hours rest instead of 11.
Not needing a 45 minute break until after 5.5 hours instead of 4.5 (assuming the usual WTD rules apply).
And arguably the biggest difference is not needing a weekly rest until after seven 24 hour periods!
There will be people who will bang in as many extra hours as possible, as there always is, but what happens if one of them is involved in an accident? He could be working the now legal limits, but how could they possibly claim not to be working tired?
And what happens come 16th April? I’d put money on this being extended as long as too many accidents haven’t already happened by then
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Bigtruck3:
CookieMonster:
Taken directly from the Gov website, the newly announced relaxation of drivers hours for retail drivers has now been confirmed.
gov.uk/government/publicati … -retailersIt won’t make a slight bit of difference the pack will follow the pack, it won’t have gone far enough for the 70 hours a week merchants
They will still want more hours and less rest and shorter breaks
It’s a once in a lifetime to demand change but will never happen
When you lose your job you will have plenty of time to ponder the lost couse you missed
If you’re seriously suggesting that HGV drivers should hold the country to ransom at this time, I would suggest that if that was to happen today’s perceived hatred towards HGV drivers would turn into something very real.
tachograph:
Bigtruck3:
CookieMonster:
Taken directly from the Gov website, the newly announced relaxation of drivers hours for retail drivers has now been confirmed.
gov.uk/government/publicati … -retailersIt won’t make a slight bit of difference the pack will follow the pack, it won’t have gone far enough for the 70 hours a week merchants
They will still want more hours and less rest and shorter breaks
It’s a once in a lifetime to demand change but will never happen
When you lose your job you will have plenty of time to ponder the lost couse you missedIf you’re seriously suggesting that HGV drivers should hold the country to ransom at this time, I would suggest that if that was to happen today’s perceived hatred towards HGV drivers would turn into something very real.
Could hold the employers to ransom though, to get these detested cameras out of our cabs, they’d be out in 5 minutes, and society wouldn’t know any different.
This exemption does not apply to drivers undertaking deliveries directly to consumers.
SO that’s like a big [zb] to 90% of drivers out there. Besides it’ll only last until 16 April, idk why they;re making it such a big deal
edit: oh shoot, I misread consumers for customers. 4:40 A.M., not my fault 
I reckon I’ve made my position clear on this in other threads.
All I’ll.say is that it just goes to prove that not only stuff in this job like dcpc, poa, and all that type of ■■■■■■■■ which are just face saving/on the surface/keeping appearances up excercise, but it now proves that Health and Safety for drivers is just the same.
Many employers and many idiots behind wheels will look upon this as just another target. 
Luckily I don’t do a lot of rdc supermarket work, but if and when I do it will be 13 hours 9 hours driving as usual.
Only time I would bend on it would be the highly unlikely event that somebody’s lives depended on it, but deffo not just to fill shelves up with beans and bog rolls.
tbh it wont make a lot of difference to us supermarket drivers delivering to store, 9hrs drive in a day isnt anywhere near usual at our place apart from maybe 2 or 3 night trunks we do. Its WTD that we will struggle with if anyone decides to take advantage of the 7 15hr days in a row thing. I dont see anything about relaxing the 60hr WTD limit for the fixed week or relaxing the average over the reference period so gonna need a lot of POA in there which you just aint gonna get. Doubt very much wether out lot will relax the rules anyway, will be a nightmare to sort out the FTA audit for next year!
Probably wont make a difference to anyone else either with all the events guys and others that have gone quiet pulling food trailers, Even the leeches like stobbies probably wont need it as other parts of the business will go dead and can move drivers over.
What’s vital though? Certainly not much I deliver would rectify any of the current issues. I’m fairly certain the motorbikes I’ve got on are not a national emergency.
As a follow up to that, how many firms will then try and suggest that ALL deliveries are vital and can be completed in these extended hours?
When you read the memo outlining the new permitted legal hours, it’s very apt, (not to mention ironic) that at the top of the thread list on this forum is a survey on 'Labour and Exploitation in Road Freight and Transport. 
Fuzrat:
tbh it wont make a lot of difference to us supermarket drivers delivering to store, 9hrs drive in a day isnt anywhere near usual at our place apart from maybe 2 or 3 night trunks we do. Its WTD that we will struggle with if anyone decides to take advantage of the 7 15hr days in a row thing. I dont see anything about relaxing the 60hr WTD limit for the fixed week or relaxing the average over the reference period so gonna need a lot of POA in there which you just aint gonna get.
Oh you’ll get the PoA. The whole idea of this is for those who don’t do the hours driving it’s because of time spent waiting to load and unload so it’ll allow you to be sat there longer and do a run you otherwise wouldn’t have been able to because you’d hit the 13hr daily limit. If you’re able to do a 15hr shift and are driving less than 9hrs you’ll be on break or PoA whilst waiting to load/unload.
But I’d like to put this 15hrs a day for 7 days into perspective.
Assuming that you are supposed to get 8hrs sleep a day that means you’ve just 1hr a day when you’re not at work when you’re not supposed to be asleep. So that means in a 7 day week between weekly rests you’ve just 7hrs when you’re not either at work or supposed to be asleep. That’s what average Joe has every single day yet we’re only supposed to have that for a week and in that hour get everything done?
Conor:
Fuzrat:
tbh it wont make a lot of difference to us supermarket drivers delivering to store, 9hrs drive in a day isnt anywhere near usual at our place apart from maybe 2 or 3 night trunks we do. Its WTD that we will struggle with if anyone decides to take advantage of the 7 15hr days in a row thing. I dont see anything about relaxing the 60hr WTD limit for the fixed week or relaxing the average over the reference period so gonna need a lot of POA in there which you just aint gonna get.Oh you’ll get the PoA. The whole idea of this is for those who don’t do the hours driving it’s because of time spent waiting to load and unload so it’ll allow you to be sat there longer and do a run you otherwise wouldn’t have been able to because you’d hit the 13hr daily limit. If you’re able to do a 15hr shift and are driving less than 9hrs you’ll be on break or PoA whilst waiting to load/unload.
But I’d like to put this 15hrs a day for 7 days into perspective.
Assuming that you are supposed to get 8hrs sleep a day that means you’ve just 1hr a day when you’re not at work when you’re not supposed to be asleep. So that means in a 7 day week between weekly rests you’ve just 7hrs when you’re not either at work or supposed to be asleep. That’s what average Joe has every single day yet we’re only supposed to have that for a week and in that hour get everything done?
For some further perspective, I work 4 days a week, and spend longer than 7 hours a week commuting…
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Ditch the WTD rules - NOT the safety rules there for a good reason already!