If a driver drives a vehicle and that vehicle is fitted with a digital tacho, does that driver have to complete manual analogue charts which show his weekly rest periods? And if a driver who completes analogue records to show weekly rest, does that driver have to keep these manual charts on him for the 28 days as per you used to have to in the days of the old analogue charts?
Lusk:
If a driver drives a vehicle and that vehicle is fitted with a digital tacho, does that driver have to complete manual analogue charts which show his weekly rest periods? And if a driver who completes analogue records to show weekly rest, does that driver have to keep these manual charts on him for the 28 days as per you used to have to in the days of the old analogue charts?
No and no.
In the UK you don’t have to manually record weekly rest periods and I would argue that if you wanted to do that the easiest way would be to manually enter the weekly rest periods into the digital tachograph, however if you do complete charts for the weekly rest periods they’re not legally required so can be binned at any time.
This may not be the same in some other EU countries though.
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Lusk:
If a driver drives a vehicle and that vehicle is fitted with a digital tacho, does that driver have to complete manual analogue charts which show his weekly rest periods? And if a driver who completes analogue records to show weekly rest, does that driver have to keep these manual charts on him for the 28 days as per you used to have to in the days of the old analogue charts?No and no.
In the UK you don’t have to manually record weekly rest periods and I would argue that if you wanted to do that the easiest way would be to manually enter the weekly rest periods into the digital tachograph, however if you do complete charts for the weekly rest periods they’re not legally required so can be binned at any time.
This may not be the same in some other EU countries though.
Thanks for this so just to confirm then that if you’re required by your company to complete manual records for rest, you don’t have to keep the previous 28 days on you.
How about if you started driving at the start of the day and then for the rest of the day you had to work in the yard and because there wasn’t a vehicle available, you recorded this yard work on an analogue chart. Would you need to have this chart with you for the next 28 days?
Just do a manual entry for “other work” for the rest of that day the next time you’re in a lorry with digi tacho
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Lusk:
Thanks for this so just to confirm then that if you’re required by your company to complete manual records for rest, you don’t have to keep the previous 28 days on you.
You don’t legally need to carry records for weekly rest periods for 28 days but companies can make up whatever company rules they like so there’s nothing to stop them saying you must.
Lusk:
How about if you started driving at the start of the day and then for the rest of the day you had to work in the yard and because there wasn’t a vehicle available, you recorded this yard work on an analogue chart. Would you need to have this chart with you for the next 28 days?
Yes.
Again the best way of recording this work would be to manually enter it onto your driver card via a manual entry into a digital tachograph, however this is a legally required record so if charts were used they would need to be carried for 28 days then handed into the transport office.
On the other hand, if a chart was used at the time and the record was manually entered onto the driver card via a digital tachograph the next time the driver card was used the chart could then be binned.
The important difference between this and the first scenario is that a record of work done away from the vehicle is a legally required record where recording a weekly rest period is not a legally required record.
Legally required records must always be carried by the driver (while at work) for the next 28 days then handed into the transport office no later than 42 days after the day the record was for.
edit: By the way, in the UK there was no legal rule that said charts had to be completed for weekly rest periods even in the days of analogue tachographs, I did once work for a company that insisted on it but it wasn’t a legal requirement.
That’s crystal clear, very much appreciated.