DAF95XF:
You mean PPL?
Then no, I haven’t got it yet, still looking for a place to learn that
Technically you don’t need a PPL to get a CPL/IR or a MPL… If age isn’t in your side (30+) i’d advise you budget well & do it as quick as you can, careful when & how you climb the ladder…
To keep waking up in the morning, and carry on breathing. 
Going for my TM exam next year and fighting to get my son back (again)
DAF95XF:
To gain my ATPL licence…
Best of luck. Hope you have a spare 100k and can then afford 2-3k+ a year after to stay current while you try to find work.
If you’re over 30 with no experience you have an uphill task ahead of you. Come to that if you’re under 30 you have…
Good on ya for trying though…
When you have spent a serious wedge on your commercial pilots licence you will find that the E.Europeans have the job hammered.
stagedriver:
Going for my TM exam next year and fighting to get my son back (again)
Best of luck hope it all works out for you I’m sure everything will be fine and one day you’ll post on here havin past the TM exam and fought and won for your son all the best
To travel the world and experience different cultures and ways of living and driving trucks in different countries.
Make millions on the stock markets while I sleep, then ring up work saying I can afford the week off… Lol
Truckulent:
Best of luck. Hope you have a spare 100k and can then afford 2-3k+ a year after to stay current while you try to find work.Good on ya for trying though…
Id make that a spare £150k to pay for ‘extras’…
I know people that would sell you their licences or give them away for free if they could…
Survive, or as somelse has already said, “To keep waking up in the morning, and carry on breathing”.
Technically you don’t need a PPL to get a CPL/IR or a MPL… If age isn’t in your side (30+) i’d advise you budget well & do it as quick as you can, careful when & how you climb the ladder…
Yup, if you’re enrolled on an integrated course you don’t need the PPL! Otherwise it’s a necessity, partly 'cos you need X amount of P1 time before beginning the course, plus the night qualification.
And what I meant was, you cannot get an ATPL unless you’ve held a multi crew commercial job for a while, or have access to your own multi crew aircraft and pay for it, and the other pilot This is because you need so many hours multi crew experience (think it is/was 200 or 300) to qualify for a full ATPL.
What you mean is the ‘frozen ATPL’, which is basically the CPL/IR/ATPL exams. Not an officially recognised term though!
I would advise against becoming an airline pilot. I flew for XL airways until 2008 when they went bust, not flown a heavy jet since… It was about 10-15 years ago that the job started declining. Most people have the skills to actually become a pilot, it’s not ridiculously difficult. It IS ridiculously expensive and when I was training, there were two types of people alongside me. Rich 18-20 year olds (mummy and daddy paid) and 30-50 year olds who’d saved up the cash and will probably never have enough time before retirement to become a captain.
I’m not a doomsayer and used to despise those types, but really, it’s not what it used to be which is a shame as it’s a wonderful dream to have. Airlines are run by beancounters these days, not ex old school pilots who moved to flying a desk and knew how the game worked.
If you want to fly, I think the best way to go now is accept that it will rule your life, and get around the world doing bush flying/aerial photography or similar. You probably won’t make mega money, but if you want to fly that badly, at least you won’t be depressed when you’re sat in your armchair aged 80
Anyway, sorry for the thread drift!
There was a tv series about trainee pilots on Dave, called Bush Pilots, they were camping out in tents, to save hotels, and knocking on doors of safari and tour firms, once accepted, the experience and hour building went a long way to secure a place in the airlines.
Some hairy landings and take offs, in all weathers, puddle jumping flying, hands on nitty gritty, not a computer on a large commercial airliner doing all the work.
I spoke to Ryan Air throttle jockey and he mentioned they get charged for their uniform, if damaged or missing.
There is an official report out on running low on fuel to save money with certain airlines.The less fuel, the lighter you are, money saved.
Javiatrix:
Technically you don’t need a PPL to get a CPL/IR or a MPL… If age isn’t in your side (30+) i’d advise you budget well & do it as quick as you can, careful when & how you climb the ladder…
Yup, if you’re enrolled on an integrated course you don’t need the PPL! Otherwise it’s a necessity, partly 'cos you need X amount of P1 time before beginning the course, plus the night qualification.
And what I meant was, you cannot get an ATPL unless you’ve held a multi crew commercial job for a while, or have access to your own multi crew aircraft and pay for it, and the other pilot
What you mean is the ‘frozen ATPL’, which is basically the CPL/IR/ATPL exams. Not an officially recognised term though!
I would advise against becoming an airline pilot. I flew for XL airways until 2008 when they went bust, not flown a heavy jet since… It was about 10-15 years ago that the job started declining. Most people have the skills to actually become a pilot, it’s not ridiculously difficult. It IS ridiculously expensive and when I was training, there were two types of people alongside me. Rich 18-20 year olds (mummy and daddy paid) and 30-50 year olds who’d saved up the cash and will probably never have enough time before retirement to become a captain.
I’m not a doomsayer and used to despise those types, but really, it’s not what it used to be which is a shame as it’s a wonderful dream to have. Airlines are run by beancounters these days, not ex old school pilots who moved to flying a desk and knew how the game worked.
If you want to fly, I think the best way to go now is accept that it will rule your life, and get around the world doing bush flying/aerial photography or similar. You probably won’t make mega money, but if you want to fly that badly, at least you won’t be depressed when you’re sat in your armchair aged 80
Anyway, sorry for the thread drift!
I was going to go down the modular route of training, and yes I know that will rule my life, even modular I know that I will have to give 12 hours of my days off.
att:
‘…This Govt. stinks, the EU stinks … They can shove it quite honestly…’
Good on this fella for his honesty - showing us rare frankness (in real language that mainstream politicians are blanking) of another disenfranchised Briton (?)
Meanwhile, the EU loving Green/Lib/Lab/Consters will simply replace att in ‘the marketplace’ with a ‘hard-working’ Bulgar/Romanian who’s bought his DCPC in a smoke-filled caff come 1st January 2014 
This is our country - though all we seem to do is vote these creeps to trash it 
Meanwhile, the thread asks ‘ambtions’ - and I respond (having seen hopeless kids on street corners over lots of the UK) "what’s the flippin’ point jumping through hoops set by Jean-Claude in Brussels who’ll give their taxes to fund a white-elephant project in some obscure nation, or similar 
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Pimpdaddy:
Truckulent:
Best of luck. Hope you have a spare 100k and can then afford 2-3k+ a year after to stay current while you try to find work.Good on ya for trying though…
Id make that a spare £150k to pay for ‘extras’…
I know people that would sell you their licences or give them away for free if they could…
Yeah, wouldn’t disagree with that. What’s a type rating in a 737 now? 20k or so if you use simulators? Costs about 10k just to be able to mess about in light aircraft with PPL, Night and IMC (if it stays usable).
Commercial flight training is for folk that ironically, can afford not to work these days - unless you’re trained in the services. Then they still don’t want you in commercial stuff!!! 
Truckulent:
Yeah, wouldn’t disagree with that. What’s a type rating in a 737 now? 20k or so if you use simulators? Costs about 10k just to be able to mess about in light aircraft with PPL, Night and IMC (if it stays usable).Commercial flight training is for folk that ironically, can afford not to work these days - unless you’re trained in the services. Then they still don’t want you in commercial stuff!!!
XF95 is in a very well paid gig so i don’t worry:) Ryanair charge €28.5k+ for a 73 TR & that’s your best bet in Europe at the moment hence me saying budget well for it modular or otherwise. It also helps a lot if you are very very well connected in the game if you can’t afford to pay/buy your way through it all…
Javiatrix is pretty spot in, to be awarded an easa atpl you need at least 1500h & ticks in all the right boxes I think, what do I know…
Pimpdaddy:
Truckulent:
Yeah, wouldn’t disagree with that. What’s a type rating in a 737 now? 20k or so if you use simulators? Costs about 10k just to be able to mess about in light aircraft with PPL, Night and IMC (if it stays usable).Commercial flight training is for folk that ironically, can afford not to work these days - unless you’re trained in the services. Then they still don’t want you in commercial stuff!!!
XF95 is in a very well paid gig so i don’t worry:)
Javiatrix is pretty spot in, to be awarded an easa atpl you need at least 1500h & ticks in all the right boxes I think, what do I know…
Yeah, I did PPL(SEP), Night, IMC, started on twins before money started to run low. I fancied a crack at the ATPL theory but adding the figures up didn’t make sense after that. The CPL is not too bad but multi IR is ■■■■■■■ expensive. I did have a drink now and again with a chap that was a training Captain for BA on the 747…Top bloke and less cocky about his skills than most drivers are about reversing… 
Oh and on around £150K so rumour had it!
Truckulent:
Oh and on around £150K so rumour had it!
Thats being modest, some guys are knocking on £200k with BA on long haul… If you go modular you can now go & do CPL/ME/IR in other European States for a fraction of the price of doing it in the UK…
DAF95XF:
To gain my ATPL licence…
LOL.How long before,Monarch are ■■■■. Whats it like at Easyjet?
Hey Daf95XF
Have you any luck with the flying side of things yet? I used to be a class 1 driver and left if 12 years ago to take up a career as Pilot when I finally got my first job. I was modular too. I’m now on the 744 overseas flying long haul freight/ passenger for a subby (they don’t actually call them subbies in flying) for Saudi Arabian.
It can be done! Go in eyes wide open, I’d echo what Javiatrix says. Nice name, I liked the DafXF when I was given one for the day at Salvos.