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[oiltreader]

Shared from a fellow flickrite, snapped 2012.
Oily

[deanb]

gingerfold:
Three more Mandator Mk.Vs

A South African prime mover and trailer combination is service with BP. South Africa was a major export market for AEC, having an assembly from CKD and distribution network in a joint venture with J.H. Plane. Jack Plane was also a director of AEC in the UK.

Tancock’s of Exeter, another haulier favouring four-in-line trailers. This photo was taken in 1962.

W.G. Davies of Swansea again showing the popularity of the Mandator and four-in-line trailer combination. On the A40 at Beaconsfield in 1962
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Heres a four in line trailer advert from 1967.

[ergomatic_man]

Frankydobo:
Australia or NZ I suppose this old timer comes from, bet it done some work in its time, the 5th Wheel looks as if its been removed and plonked back on the chassis! Franky.
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it has a totally different screen set up to the normal ergo cab anybody no why these were an option?

[frankydobo]

Ergoman wrote; it has a totally different screen set up to the normal ergo cab anybody no why these were an option?

The screens are possibly from the earlier split screen Mercury, the thought may have been it is easier and cheaper to replace one screen if damaged rather than the bigger Ergo screen, especially in the conditions found in the outback. The AEC dealership may also have had a good supply of these older screens so getting replacements may not have been a problem. Other than that I can’t see any other practical reason. Franky.

[gingerfold]

A couple of stunning photos from Australia, again a large export market for AEC.

Rockbank Transport’s new Mk.V about to embark on its first journey. Hastings Deering cab with sleeper “shelf”, extra non-AEC diesel tank for greater range, and an imported Fruehauf trailer from the USA. Melbourne to Perth is a nice trip, 2,150 miles.

Thomas Nationwide Transport, the photo was taken at the company’s Sydney depot. Both Mk. V Mandators have longer wheelbases than UK models and they were assembled by AEC Australia Pty from CKD kits, with locally built cabs.

[oiltreader]

YUD Oxfordshire reg.
Oily

[chris_webb]

gingerfold:
A couple of stunning photos from Australia, again a large export market for AEC.

Rockbank Transport’s new Mk.V about to embark on its first journey. Hastings Deering cab with sleeper “shelf”, extra non-AEC diesel tank for greater range, and an imported Fruehauf trailer from the USA. Melbourne to Perth is a nice trip, 2,150 miles.
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Thomas Nationwide Transport, the photo was taken at the company’s Sydney depot. Both Mk. V Mandators have longer wheelbases than UK models and they were assembled by AEC Australia Pty from CKD kits, with locally built cabs.
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Nice photos of my all time favourite wagon. Would those MK5 Mandators have the standard AV690 engine with 6-speed box Graham? I read somewhere that some were fitted with Fuller boxes,or that could have been the tilt cab models.Not sure.

[gingerfold]

Chris Webb:

gingerfold:
A couple of stunning photos from Australia, again a large export market for AEC.

Rockbank Transport’s new Mk.V about to embark on its first journey. Hastings Deering cab with sleeper “shelf”, extra non-AEC diesel tank for greater range, and an imported Fruehauf trailer from the USA. Melbourne to Perth is a nice trip, 2,150 miles.
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Thomas Nationwide Transport, the photo was taken at the company’s Sydney depot. Both Mk. V Mandators have longer wheelbases than UK models and they were assembled by AEC Australia Pty from CKD kits, with locally built cabs.
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Nice photos of my all time favourite wagon. Would those MK5 Mandators have the standard AV690 engine with 6-speed box Graham? I read somewhere that some were fitted with Fuller boxes,or that could have been the tilt cab models.Not sure.

Evening Chris, the Aussie Mk.Vs had the AV690 engine (1959 to 1962) at a standard output of 150 bhp @ 1,800 rpm. From late 1962 to end of production the 2AV690 was fitted, rated at 192 bhp @ 2,200 rpm. Some Mk. V’s were fitted with the AEC 2-speed auxiliary gearbox, a two-stick arrangement which doubled the available gear ratios. I’ll post a photo of a Mk.V that had a Fuller compound gearbox arrangement, again a two-stick job. It was the Ergo cabbed models that had the Fuller range-change 'boxes fitted from new, again photos will be posted of some heavily modified Aussie Mandators.

[ramone]

I have just received my copy of AEC The Commercial Vehicles From Southall , it is part of the Vintage Roadscene Magazine collection and its well worth buying. I have only flicked through it but there are many photos including quite a few from Tillotsons at Burnley. One is an early AEC Monarch around 1934 in the colours of J Hinchcliffe , but there are photos from nationwide , I have even spotted 2 of a Cyril Whitley AEC Mercury with my uncle and a colleague loading in Bradford . The text with the photos isnt accurate but it`s a couple of great photos all the same

[gingerfold]

To keep Chris Webb happy, here are some more Mk.V’s

Shell-Mex and B.P. - massive fleet of Mk.V Mandators and Mammoth Majors. This one had an experimental reverse fifth wheel. The king pin was on the unit and the plate and jaws were on the trailer… the idea obviously didn’t catch on.

Midland Motor Co. was an Allison Freightlines subsidiary company. This Mk.V was a trunk motor from Nottingham to Glasgow, loaded from British Gypsum at East Leake north, and steel south. Presumably there was a nightly change over point?

Here’s an interesting semi-trailer in Ireland, behind the Mandator, a double four-in-line. AEC had its own assembly depot at Dundalk.

[ray_smyth]

gingerfold:
To keep Chris Webb happy, here are some more Mk.V’s

Shell-Mex and B.P. - massive fleet of Mk.V Mandators and Mammoth Majors. This one had an experimental reverse fifth wheel. The king pin was on the unit and the plate and jaws were on the trailer… the idea obviously didn’t catch on.
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Midland Motor Co. was an Allison Freightlines subsidiary company. This Mk.V was a trunk motor from Nottingham to Glasgow, loaded from British Gypsum at East Leake north, and steel south. Presumably there was a nightly change over point?
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Here’s an interesting semi-trailer in Ireland, behind the Mandator, a double four-in-line. AEC had its own assembly depot at Dundalk.
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Graham, The reverse fifth wheel set up would have been a good anti theft device, you would struggle to steal that trailer !! Cheers, Ray.

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Mobil Mandator with a 4,000 gallons four-in-line tanker trailer.

The special Adams Butter Mandators achieved a mythical status in the 1960s, but they did exist and were flying machines. They had experimental 2AV690 engines boosted to 2,400 rpm and fitted with special experimental low friction pistons. They also had Bosch fuel injection pumps, non-standard high speed diffs, and larger radiators. They were used to evaluate sustained high top speed running on the recently opened M1 Motorway.

Whatton’s Mk.V with pole trailer fitted with super single tyres, quite rare in 1965, a nice load of logs.

[gingerfold]

Ray Smyth:

gingerfold:
To keep Chris Webb happy, here are some more Mk.V’s

Shell-Mex and B.P. - massive fleet of Mk.V Mandators and Mammoth Majors. This one had an experimental reverse fifth wheel. The king pin was on the unit and the plate and jaws were on the trailer… the idea obviously didn’t catch on.
2

Midland Motor Co. was an Allison Freightlines subsidiary company. This Mk.V was a trunk motor from Nottingham to Glasgow, loaded from British Gypsum at East Leake north, and steel south. Presumably there was a nightly change over point?
1

Here’s an interesting semi-trailer in Ireland, behind the Mandator, a double four-in-line. AEC had its own assembly depot at Dundalk.
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Graham, The reverse fifth wheel set up would have been a good anti theft device, you would struggle to steal that trailer !! Cheers, Ray.

Ray, I would think that it would have been quite easy to miss the jaws when coupling up with the pin on the unit.

[chris_webb]

gingerfold:
To keep Chris Webb happy, here are some more Mk.V’s

Shell-Mex and B.P. - massive fleet of Mk.V Mandators and Mammoth Majors. This one had an experimental reverse fifth wheel. The king pin was on the unit and the plate and jaws were on the trailer… the idea obviously didn’t catch on.

Midland Motor Co. was an Allison Freightlines subsidiary company. This Mk.V was a trunk motor from Nottingham to Glasgow, loaded from British Gypsum at East Leake north, and steel south. Presumably there was a nightly change over point?

Here’s an interesting semi-trailer in Ireland, behind the Mandator, a double four-in-line. AEC had its own assembly depot at Dundalk.

Thanks Graham.Yes Shell-Mex and BP,big users of AECs.A E Evans bought several MK5 Mammoth Majors ex Shell.YXP 772 Fleet 166 was one and originally based in Sheffield.It had the smaller AV590 engine though.

[kingswinford_kit]

gingerfold:
A 1966 registered Mammoth Minor of ICI, making it one of the first.
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And a very early 1965 registered Mandator of Hills of Cardiff outside of AEC dealership CV Commercials in Cardiff.
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That looks like the former ICI Nylon Spinners plant at Mamhilad Pontypool ,regards Keith

[chris_webb]

kingswinford kit:

gingerfold:
A 1966 registered Mammoth Minor of ICI, making it one of the first.
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And a very early 1965 registered Mandator of Hills of Cardiff outside of AEC dealership CV Commercials in Cardiff.
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That looks like the former ICI Nylon Spinners plant at Mamhilad Pontypool ,regards Keith

They ran those plastic pellets in bins from ICI Wilton to Pontypool,Gloucester and Doncaster amongst other places Keith.

[tonyj105]

Chris Webb:

gingerfold:
To keep Chris Webb happy, here are some more Mk.V’s

Shell-Mex and B.P. - massive fleet of Mk.V Mandators and Mammoth Majors. This one had an experimental reverse fifth wheel. The king pin was on the unit and the plate and jaws were on the trailer… the idea obviously didn’t catch on.
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Midland Motor Co. was an Allison Freightlines subsidiary company. This Mk.V was a trunk motor from Nottingham to Glasgow, loaded from British Gypsum at East Leake north, and steel south. Presumably there was a nightly change over point?
2

Here’s an interesting semi-trailer in Ireland, behind the Mandator, a double four-in-line. AEC had its own assembly depot at Dundalk.
1

Thanks Graham.Yes Shell-Mex and BP,big users of AECs.A E Evans bought several MK5 Mammoth Majors ex Shell.YXP 772 Fleet 166 was one and originally based in Sheffield.It had the smaller AV590 engine though.

unusual to have tubeless them days , looks strange to see a rim like that on that age of lorry

tony

[oiltreader]

Thanks to SPC for this photo and in his words …AEC 9.6 direct injection diesel engine the heartbeat of the Routemaster, Regent, Regal and on the lorry side such as Mammoth Major and Mandator

[cav551]

oiltreader:
Thanks to SPC for this photo and in his words …AEC 9.6 direct injection diesel engine the heartbeat of the Routemaster, Regent, Regal and on the lorry side such as Mammoth Major and Mandator

I am going to hazard a guess that is the late Geoff Rixon’s RM254 which was always immaculate during his ownership.

aspal.co.uk/rm254/

[lawrence_dunbar]