Hiya,
Er’, I wore gloves occasionally “boxing ones” to sort the wages girl out
when she’d underpaid me yet again, yes Sandra you’ll remember I was
the one who’s timesheet that you always mislaid.
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick is obviously one those zb’s who I cursed when driving anything which they’d been driving with stinking irritating diesel all over the steering wheel and gear shift and anything else the muppets handled.Diesel really is nasty stuff with some equally nasty health implications if it isn’t treated with respect.Oh and he also said that load must be sheeted before it leaves the yard regardless of the weather forecast because the sheets are needed to hold the load on.
As for gloves and tying knots.I posted this on the offending S and R topic to show him that it can be done without needing to take the gloves off.Just as I always did.
What a load of bollox that You Tube vid is ! it really [zb] is especially when The Leatherhead Leper is promoting it ! now come on “CF” own up I doubt whether you could even sheet and rope a single bed never mind a double one ! My cab and the many Bewick Transport cabs never stunk of diesel you cheeky [zb] ! And oh! I never ever used gloves as I grew up into the job the hard way before all this H & S bollox took hold of the industry and for the worst in my book ! Cheers Bewick.
Not transferring diesel into the skin or anyone else’s skin let alone getting the zb on your sandwiches and drinking mug etc thereby into your insides is one of the good things about H and S.So tell us how did you fill up a wagon without getting stinking diesel on your hands from the pump and then onto everything else you handled including the steering wheel and gearshift from that point if you didn’t use some decent chemical proof gloves ( tell me about it I drove more than enough trucks lumbered with exactly that scenario not to mention diesel infested coffee/tea machines etc etc ) ?.
While using gloves when handling ropes etc is just common sense unless you like torn hands.
Just like the idea that a sheet isn’t going to hold a load on a truck it’s only there to keep it dry.As in the example shown.Weather forecast looks good don’t bother with em.Job done.Or was he using an eight wheeler and trailer just to shunt it all across the yard and also secured the unused folded sheets with the ropes just in case. 
Bewick:
lespullan:
ramone:
You would have fitted in perfect with the Bradford lads CFSpot on mate he could clean the toilets. Les
Hey now hang on there Les you are promoting the [zb] too quickly !!! He can only start as “The Senior Bog Cleaner’s” assistant surely !
More like you’ve just lost a decent wagon and drag driver after trying to punish him with bog cleaning duties over an argument about unsheeted loads in good weather.
Carryfast:
ERF-NGC-European:
Bewick:
You soft Ponce “CF” !
‘Not many of those about, are there?’ said the wide-mouthed frog
Bewick is obviously one those zb’s who I cursed when driving anything which they’d been driving with stinking irritating diesel all over the steering wheel and gear shift and anything else the muppets handled.Diesel really is nasty stuff with some equally nasty health implications if it isn’t treated with respect.
Oh and he also said that load must be sheeted before it leaves the yard regardless of the weather forecast because the sheets are needed to hold the load on.
As for gloves and tying knots.I posted this on the offending S and R topic to show him that it can be done without needing to take the gloves off.Just as I always did.
Well Carryfast I and probably lots more on TN would love to know where you have gained your vast experience in roping and sheeting, as you seem to have learned your skills on a different planet than all of us, I thought your lesson to us all was over on the art of roping and sheeting and now your back with another load of crap, roping and sheeting in leather welding gloves, have you ever worn welding gloves, and what when they get soaking wet, or gardening gloves never heard such a load of rubbish, which little book did you get that out of the Flower Pot Men, don’t spoil another thread with your lack of knowledge and quotes from books, as we are and were skilled lorry drivers with a vast knowledge of our trade, not what we have read in the book, tried and tested skill. [enough]. Les
I always wore rubber gloves for fuelling up and when splashing diesel around inside the body when loading tar but back in the days when we actually tied the sheet down they didn’t last more than a couple of weeks before they went hard and split open. I usually kept a few pairs in the cab. Back then the cab usually smelt of diesel anyway because the soles of your boots got covered in it when sheeting up or standing in the paver pan when the gang had covered it in diesel before you tipped, rubber mats tended to swell up as well! Diesel never affected my hands though, I was a fitter after all so getting it on my hands didn’t bother me, however hydraulic oil always brought me out in a rash.
Now’t to do with AEC’s though…
Pete.
lespullan:
Carryfast:
ERF-NGC-European:
Bewick:
You soft Ponce “CF” !‘Not many of those about, are there?’ said the wide-mouthed frog
Bewick is obviously one those zb’s who I cursed when driving anything which they’d been driving with stinking irritating diesel all over the steering wheel and gear shift and anything else the muppets handled.Diesel really is nasty stuff with some equally nasty health implications if it isn’t treated with respect.
Oh and he also said that load must be sheeted before it leaves the yard regardless of the weather forecast because the sheets are needed to hold the load on.
Well said my friend.Regards Larry.
As for gloves and tying knots.I posted this on the offending S and R topic to show him that it can be done without needing to take the gloves off.Just as I always did.Well Carryfast I and probably lots more on TN would love to know where you have gained your vast experience in roping and sheeting, as you seem to have learned your skills on a different planet than all of us, I thought your lesson to us all was over on the art of roping and sheeting and now your back with another load of crap, roping and sheeting in leather welding gloves, have you ever worn welding gloves, and what when they get soaking wet, or gardening gloves never heard such a load of rubbish, which little book did you get that out of the Flower Pot Men, don’t spoil another thread with your lack of knowledge and quotes from books, as we are and were skilled lorry drivers with a vast knowledge of our trade, not what we have read in the book, tried and tested skill. [enough]. Les
windrush:
I always wore rubber gloves for fuelling up and when splashing diesel around inside the body when loading tar but back in the days when we actually tied the sheet down they didn’t last more than a couple of weeks before they went hard and split open.Now’t to do with AEC’s though…
Pete.
Hi Pete,did the tar when I lived on Orkney along with many other jobs, once sprayed the body with diesel then slipped and sat in it, stank all day. Les.
Believe it or not, I once worked for a chap who reckoned the best way to get a shine on the dashboard was to polish it with a rag dipped in diesel! The three of us drivers didn’t agree, to say the least.
lespullan:
Well Carryfast I and probably lots more on TN would love to know where you have gained your vast experience in roping and sheeting, as you seem to have learned your skills on a different planet than all of us, I thought your lesson to us all was over on the art of roping and sheeting and now your back with another load of crap, roping and sheeting in leather welding gloves, have you ever worn welding gloves, and what when they get soaking wet, or gardening gloves never heard such a load of rubbish, which little book did you get that out of the Flower Pot Men, don’t spoil another thread with your lack of knowledge and quotes from books, as we are and were skilled lorry drivers with a vast knowledge of our trade, not what we have read in the book, tried and tested skill. [enough]. Les
Did you actually read the post by grumpy old man which started my justified tirade.As I remember it regarding your bull zb being in the forefront.
Tested ‘skill’ you mean using a sheet to secure a load,not just to keep it dry and tearing the skin off your hands by not using gloves ( yes I have used welding gloves for the handling of bleedin hot and sharp edged metal in fabrication work and loading trucks and as such they are perfect for the job of roping loads on a truck ) or getting dermatitis at best because using chemical resistant gloves to fuel up is also for wimps.Wet leather gloves stopping work is as believable as the idea that the 8 wheeler and trailer load in the photo isn’t sheeted because it’s only being shunted across the yard.Here’s a clue there is more than one pair of dry gloves in the locker or in the cab and you can generally rope a load before they are soaked through.You’re avin a larf.
Retired Old ■■■■:
Believe it or not, I once worked for a chap who reckoned the best way to get a shine on the dashboard was to polish it with a rag dipped in diesel! The three of us drivers didn’t agree, to say the least.
Hiya.
In the Army it was an offence to have a mucky motor that was inside
and out the polish of choice was a mixture of petrol and engine oil it
was nicknamed gimp why I haven’t a clue why, but you never saw any
rusty motors, the only problem was when lighting a ciggie whilst you
was driving along was always a bit dodgy immediately after cleaning
day and it did keep the insects away from inside the cab.
harry_gill:
In the Army it was an offence to have a mucky motor that was inside
and out the polish of choice was a mixture of petrol and engine oil it
was nicknamed gimp why I haven’t a clue why, but you never saw any
rusty motors, the only problem was when lighting a ciggie whilst you
was driving along was always a bit dodgy immediately after cleaning
day and it did keep the insects away from inside the cab.
The Desert Rats at least used petrol to wash and shave with because water was too valuable to waste.Not the same thing as diesel in its effects on the skin let alone internal.( Don’t ask me how I know that but let’s just say it resulted in a trip to A and E and some time off with a severe reaction and dermatitis of both arms and chest resulting from spilling a jerry can load of the zb on me when trying to get some into the empty tank of a fire truck of which the tank filling position was around almost head height and within a hatch in the panel work ).
Carryfast:
harry_gill:
In the Army it was an offence to have a mucky motor that was inside
and out the polish of choice was a mixture of petrol and engine oil it
was nicknamed gimp why I haven’t a clue why, but you never saw any
rusty motors, the only problem was when lighting a ciggie whilst you
was driving along was always a bit dodgy immediately after cleaning
day and it did keep the insects away from inside the cab.The Desert Rats at least used petrol to wash and shave with because water was too valuable to waste.Not the same thing as diesel in its effects on the skin let alone internal.( Don’t ask me how I know that but let’s just say it resulted in a trip to A and E and some time off with a severe reaction and dermatitis of both arms and chest resulting from spilling a jerry can load of the zb on me when trying to get some into the empty tank of a fire truck of which the tank filling position was around almost head height and within a hatch in the panel work ).
I would have paid good money to have seen that one
Carryfast:
lespullan:
Well Carryfast I and probably lots more on TN would love to know where you have gained your vast experience in roping and sheeting, as you seem to have learned your skills on a different planet than all of us, I thought your lesson to us all was over on the art of roping and sheeting and now your back with another load of crap, roping and sheeting in leather welding gloves, have you ever worn welding gloves, and what when they get soaking wet, or gardening gloves never heard such a load of rubbish, which little book did you get that out of the Flower Pot Men, don’t spoil another thread with your lack of knowledge and quotes from books, as we are and were skilled lorry drivers with a vast knowledge of our trade, not what we have read in the book, tried and tested skill. [enough]. LesDid you actually read the post by grumpy old man which started my justified tirade.As I remember it regarding your bull zb being in the forefront.
Tested ‘skill’ you mean using a sheet to secure a load,not just to keep it dry and tearing the skin off your hands by not using gloves ( yes I have used welding gloves for the handling of bleedin hot and sharp edged metal in fabrication work and loading trucks and as such they are perfect for the job of roping loads on a truck ) or getting dermatitis at best because using chemical resistant gloves to fuel up is also for wimps.Wet leather gloves stopping work is as believable as the idea that the 8 wheeler and trailer load in the photo isn’t sheeted because it’s only being shunted across the yard.Here’s a clue there is more than one pair of dry gloves in the locker or in the cab and you can generally rope a load before they are soaked through.You’re avin a larf.
You are an absolute ■■■■■■■ idiot, and I never mentioned that load on the wagon and drag, that’s roadworthy with longbinds, ratchets and cross ropes so don’t tell your granny how to ■■■■ eggs, and as for gloves i never used them for diesel or roping, if your the type of person TN moderators want on here Iv’e done scrub my name off. Les.
Ah! Talking of AECs (remember them?) ! Here’s a nice plain working example of a late '60s Mercury. Robert
lespullan:
Carryfast:
lespullan:
Well Carryfast I and probably lots more on TN would love to know where you have gained your vast experience in roping and sheeting, as you seem to have learned your skills on a different planet than all of us, I thought your lesson to us all was over on the art of roping and sheeting and now your back with another load of crap, roping and sheeting in leather welding gloves, have you ever worn welding gloves, and what when they get soaking wet, or gardening gloves never heard such a load of rubbish, which little book did you get that out of the Flower Pot Men, don’t spoil another thread with your lack of knowledge and quotes from books, as we are and were skilled lorry drivers with a vast knowledge of our trade, not what we have read in the book, tried and tested skill. [enough]. LesDid you actually read the post by grumpy old man which started my justified tirade.As I remember it regarding your bull zb being in the forefront.
Tested ‘skill’ you mean using a sheet to secure a load,not just to keep it dry and tearing the skin off your hands by not using gloves ( yes I have used welding gloves for the handling of bleedin hot and sharp edged metal in fabrication work and loading trucks and as such they are perfect for the job of roping loads on a truck ) or getting dermatitis at best because using chemical resistant gloves to fuel up is also for wimps.Wet leather gloves stopping work is as believable as the idea that the 8 wheeler and trailer load in the photo isn’t sheeted because it’s only being shunted across the yard.Here’s a clue there is more than one pair of dry gloves in the locker or in the cab and you can generally rope a load before they are soaked through.You’re avin a larf.
You are an absolute [zb] idiot, and I never mentioned that load on the wagon and drag, that’s roadworthy with longbinds, ratchets and cross ropes so don’t tell your granny how to ■■■■ eggs, and as for gloves i never used them for diesel or roping, if your the type of person TN moderators want on here Iv’e done scrub my name off. Les.
Les , CF is a well known clown on here as jumps from thread to thread with ridiculous statements to get a rise out of people. If you look back at some of his posts you will see that. Gardners were boat anchors is one that springs to mind that got quite a response . You could write on the back of a stamp what he knows about roping and sheeting , and loading wool , well enough said. I’m sure Jack Bell and Ashworth always made sure their drivers were equipped with different types of gloves for fueling up and roping and sheeting.I used gloves to take the ropes and sheets off but i couldn’t rope and sheet with gloves on. Maybe he could post a video of himself or someone else roping and sheeting with gloves on so we can all see how its done and learn something . As for sheets not holding the load well does anyone need to say anymore. I know drugs are widespread in Britain but someone must be doing a very cheap deal on them in Leatherhead
ERF-NGC-European:
Ah! Talking of AECs (remember them?)0
Thats a well used Mercury Robert , the binnacle looks like its been modified over the years and a fair bit of patchwork too. I love these old working photos
ERF-NGC-European:
Ah! Talking of AECs (remember them?)0
Jobs dairy, that takes me back to my childhood in Reading.
Pete.
lespullan:
You are an absolute [zb] idiot, and I never mentioned that load on the wagon and drag, that’s roadworthy with longbinds, ratchets and cross ropes
Before you go crying to the mods like a girl why not just tell us why that load isn’t sheeted ?.The previous example was supposedly because it was only being shunted across the yard.Yeah right.So now are you saying that the sheets are only meant to keep it dry depending on the weather conditions not to secure it ?.Or not ?.
ramone:
ERF-NGC-European:
Ah! Talking of AECs (remember them?)0
Thats a well used Mercury Robert , the binnacle looks like its been modified over the years and a fair bit of patchwork too. I love these old working photos
The binnacle is a much later type than the age of the Mercury. It is typical of the binnacles used in the Leyland Buffalo, Bison etc.
Bewick:
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‘Not many of those about, are there?’ said the wide-mouthed frog0
Now come on Robert where oh where did you get that set of poxy sheets from ? Bertram Mills dispersal sale possibly ? Cheers Dennis. 
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Well that was well over 30 years ago and I’d dragged that unaccompanied trailer off a Belgian boat with a Merc 1626 loaded with laminated chipboard (a feat in itself in those days ) . As you know yourself Dennis, we had to work with whatever the transport industry threw at us . Robert