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grumpy old man:

V Max Nomad:
I worked for J.L. Robson and Son at Stockton, they were AEC main dealers and used an 8 wheel MK 111 Mammoth Major as a breakdown truck – Anyone remember it ?
It was a pig to drive and for a couple of years as night chargehand it was me who did the accident/breakdown recovery with the beast, power steering, cab heaters, nah, we had to be tough,
but trying hand crank the Lister Diesel for the winch on a cold winters night tended to warm me up a bit.

Have a care sir uttering derogatory words about AEC’s. Fine machines, every one of them. :stuck_out_tongue: :wink:

If you were sitting halfway across the Whitby moors on a cold February night trying to tow one of Slaters tankers out of a ditch and the only heating was from a stolen red parrafin road works lamp, then had to shovel grit all the way up the four mile drag out of Whitby (to Guisborough road) you would utter derogatory words too, my wee apprentice (mechanic) was off sick for a week after that, he he !

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V Max Nomad:

Dieseldogsix:
Wasn’t the six wheeler called a Marshall and the six wheel artic and eight wheeler called a Mammoth Major, just though it may help with your search.

The eight wheelers were deffo Mammoth Majors, but I think the artics were Mandators

The twin-steer ergo cabbed AEC tractor unit was a Mammoth Minor and the double-drive three axled unit was a Mammoth Major .The two axled unit was a Mandator.The Marshal was a six-wheeled rigid.

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Chris Webb:

V Max Nomad:

Dieseldogsix:
Wasn’t the six wheeler called a Marshall and the six wheel artic and eight wheeler called a Mammoth Major, just though it may help with your search.

The eight wheelers were deffo Mammoth Majors, but I think the artics were Mandators

The twin-steer ergo cabbed AEC tractor unit was a Mammoth Minor and the double-drive three axled unit was a Mammoth Major .The two axled unit was a Mandator.The Marshal was a six-wheeled rigid.

Wasn’t there also a “lightweight” 8 wheeler called a Marshal also Chris ?cheers Dennis.

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Chris Webb:

V Max Nomad:

Dieseldogsix:
Wasn’t the six wheeler called a Marshall and the six wheel artic and eight wheeler called a Mammoth Major, just though it may help with your search.

The eight wheelers were deffo Mammoth Majors, but I think the artics were Mandators

The twin-steer ergo cabbed AEC tractor unit was a Mammoth Minor and the double-drive three axled unit was a Mammoth Major .The two axled unit was a Mandator.The Marshal was a six-wheeled rigid.

And the 6 wheeler with a downrated AV760 was a Marshall Major ,dont know why they downrated it ,and they also made a lightweight 8 wheeler with the AV505 in it which was a marshall ,i bet that was a bit sad ,and weren`t earlier 6 wheeler rigids called mammoth majors … very confusing :smiley:

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Chris Webb:

V Max Nomad:

Dieseldogsix:
Wasn’t the six wheeler called a Marshall and the six wheel artic and eight wheeler called a Mammoth Major, just though it may help with your search.

The eight wheelers were deffo Mammoth Majors, but I think the artics were Mandators

The twin-steer ergo cabbed AEC tractor unit was a Mammoth Minor and the double-drive three axled unit was a Mammoth Major .The two axled unit was a Mandator.The Marshal was a six-wheeled rigid.

Don’t forget The Mercury Chris.

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A lovingly restored AEC (Regent ■■?) coach at Thornton le Dale during the 2011 Pickering traction engine rally

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Some AEC’s from Gaydon today.



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Great photos Dieseldog,I’d jump in any of them and do a shift.
The Mammoth Major tractor unit has Irish Republic plates I think,MH is County Meath.

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Chris Webb:
Great photos Dieseldog,I’d jump in any of them and do a shift.
The Mammoth Major tractor unit has Irish Republic plates I think,MH is County Meath.

Thanks Chris, I particularly like the 8 legger.

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Original Ergo line up, Mercury 471/505 tractor/truck chassis (4x2), Mandator 691/760 tractor/truck chassis (4x2), Marshall 471/505 truck chassis (6x2, 6x4), Mammoth Major 691/760 tractor/truck chassis (6x4, 8x2, 8x4), Mammoth Minor 691/760 twin steer tractor (6x2). Later additions Marshall 505 truck chassis (8x2, 8x4), V8 Mandator tractor (4x2).

I always had trouble as a youngster knowing what the name Mandator meant, it isn’t in the dictionary, only Mandate or Mandatory, so conclude it must be something to do with the meaning of those words, basically something that is commanding. Obscure name though! Franky.

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Re: AEC
by V Max Nomad » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:55 pm

A lovingly restored AEC (Regent ■■?) coach at Thornton le Dale during the 2011 Pickering traction engine rally Attachments
A lovingly restored AEC (Regent ■■?) coach at Thornton le Dale during the 2011 Pickering traction engine rally

AEC Reliance 4MU3RA4138/Plaxton Highway B55F Single Decker Bus,WNL 259A,ex-8031 PT in January 1985.
1962. Economic,Whitburn 5.

The Regent was the double decker bus model.
In the post-war years,the Reliance was the underfloor-engined motorcoach and bus model.

Frankydobo:
Original Ergo line up, Mercury 471/505 tractor/truck chassis (4x2), Mandator 691/760 tractor/truck chassis (4x2), Marshall 471/505 truck chassis (6x2, 6x4), Mammoth Major 691/760 tractor/truck chassis (6x4, 8x2, 8x4), Mammoth Minor 691/760 twin steer tractor (6x2). Later additions Marshall 505 truck chassis (8x2, 8x4), V8 Mandator tractor (4x2).

I always had trouble as a youngster knowing what the name Mandator meant, it isn’t in the dictionary, only Mandate or Mandatory, so conclude it must be something to do with the meaning of those words, basically something that is commanding. Obscure name though! Franky.

From an Internet Dictionary.
Mandator definition:-
Definition of MANDATOR
: one that gives a mandate
First Known Use of MANDATOR

1681
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The Marshal 8x2/8x4 Lorry model was actually the Marshal Eight 505 TGM8R,1968-1970.
Marshal Major AV760 2TG6R 6x2/6x4/8x2/8x4 Lorry model,1971-1976.
Mammoth Major Six V8 2VTG6R 6x4 Tractive Unit,1969.
AEC Leyland Marathon Mk 1 and Mk 2 2T25/27 Lorry models.1973-1979.

VALKYRIE.

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Was there such a model known as the Mustang? Or is my old memory playing tricks? :slight_smile:

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leylandlover:
Was there such a model known as the Mustang? Or is my old memory playing tricks? :slight_smile:

Yes join the missing bits in the memory club “leylandlover”. I have never heard of a AEC Mustang,but that does’nt mean there was’nt one.
American Ford Mustang ,great car from the 60’s as I’m sure you are aware and into it’s 5th generation today,
but if AEC used that name someone will let us know. :slight_smile: Mike.

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Hiya…MUSTANG yes it was the twin steer(chinese 6 wheeler)i think the model would
have been the mercury most likely to be used for a upgrade tonage.
John

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I am enjoying this forum.thankyou for the Mustang info.When BRS took over George Reads at Mitheldean i drove a chinese six to Cheltanham to collect spares.

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3300John:
Hiya…MUSTANG yes it was the twin steer(chinese 6 wheeler)i think the model would
have been the mercury most likely to be used for a upgrade tonage.
John

Maudslay Mustang 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Rigid 6-Wheeler Lorry,1948-1950:-
oldclassiccar.co.uk/maudslay.htm
It’s the sixth photograph down on the TruckNetUK post:-
google.com/imgres?q=MAUDSLAY … 6,s:0,i:94

AEC took over the Maudslay Motor Company in 1948.AEC introduced it’s twin steer Majestic model in 1950:-
AEC Majestic 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Rigid 6-Wheeler Lorry,1950-1957,it was also sold under the Maudslay marque name:-
ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p36527801 … #h1ddf430b

flickr.com/photos/47995614@N04/6041844451/

AEC Mustang GM6RH 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Rigid 6-Wheeler Lorry,1956-1961,based on the Mercury Lorry model:-
google.com/imgres?q=AEC+MUST … s:12,i:145

VALKYRIE.

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There you are Leylandlover an AEC Mustang from the Peter Davies book British Lorries of the 40’s & 50’s, Chinese Six configuration was quite popular during that time on rigids and most makers produced a model.

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Hiya…well well majestic is new to me thanks, i,ve never come across that one before,
i think it was ERF who come up with the twin steer idea. it was impossible to overload the front axle.
that was in the days of handball when you started at the headboard and stacked as high as you could.
John

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The AEC ‘M’ Model range from the early 1930s in approximate chronological order:

Mammoth (Heavy (very) Duty 4-wheeler)
Mammoth Major (Heavy Duty 6-wheeler, Mark 1 and 11 versions)
Monarch (Lighter weight 4-wheeler, 4-cyl engine, later option of 6-cyl engine)
Mammoth Major Eight (Heavy Duty 8-wheeler introduced 1934, Mark 1 and 11 versions until 1942)
Mercury (Light weight 4-wheeler)
Mammoth Minor (Light weight 6-wheeler with single wheel trailing third axle)
Matador 4x2 (Heavy Duty 4-wheeler, rigid, artic, or rigid plus drawbar versions available)
Marshal (Light Weight 6-wheeler for War Department)
Matador 4x4 Gun Tractor introduced 1939, then re-introduced 1953 to original spec., than a later version late '50s with AV470 engine)

Post 1945 range

Monarch 4-wheeler, Mark 111 only (model name continued as an export version of the post-1953 Mercury range)
Mammoth Major, 6 or 8-wheeler rigid, 6-wheel tractive unit, Mark 11, Mark 111, Mark V, and Ergomatic ranges plus specials until 1977)
Mandator (replaced pre-war Matador 4x2, all versions of rigid, artic, drawbar prime mover etc. all Mark variants until end of AEC Production)
Majestic (Chinese 6-wheeler, based on Mandator Mark 111)
Mercury (Medium weight 4-wheeler and artic)
Militant Mark 1 6x4 and 6x6 variants for War Office
Militant Mark 111 6x6 for War Office and MoD, overlapped into Mark V and Ergomatic years
Marshal medium weight 6-wheeler, 1960-1977, then Marshal 8-wheeler version, Ergomatic cab, approx 1969-1972
Mogul, export model rigid or artic 4x2
■■? as Mogul but 6x4 name escapes me for now
Super Mammoth export model
Marathon 4x2 rigid and artic, 6x4 artic

Some model names such as Majestic and Marathon were first used by Maudslay

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gingerfold:
The AEC ‘M’ Model range from the early 1930s in approximate chronological order:

Mammoth (Heavy (very) Duty 4-wheeler)
Mammoth Major (Heavy Duty 6-wheeler, Mark 1 and 11 versions)
Monarch (Lighter weight 4-wheeler, 4-cyl engine, later option of 6-cyl engine)
Mammoth Major Eight (Heavy Duty 8-wheeler introduced 1934, Mark 1 and 11 versions until 1942)
Mercury (Light weight 4-wheeler)
Mammoth Minor (Light weight 6-wheeler with single wheel trailing third axle)
Matador 4x2 (Heavy Duty 4-wheeler, rigid, artic, or rigid plus drawbar versions available)
Marshal (Light Weight 6-wheeler for War Department)
Matador 4x4 Gun Tractor introduced 1939, then re-introduced 1953 to original spec., than a later version late '50s with AV470 engine)

Post 1945 range

Monarch 4-wheeler, Mark 111 only (model name continued as an export version of the post-1953 Mercury range)
Mammoth Major, 6 or 8-wheeler rigid, 6-wheel tractive unit, Mark 11, Mark 111, Mark V, and Ergomatic ranges plus specials until 1977)
Mandator (replaced pre-war Matador 4x2, all versions of rigid, artic, drawbar prime mover etc. all Mark variants until end of AEC Production)
Majestic (Chinese 6-wheeler, based on Mandator Mark 111)
Mercury (Medium weight 4-wheeler and artic)
Militant Mark 1 6x4 and 6x6 variants for War Office
Militant Mark 111 6x6 for War Office and MoD, overlapped into Mark V and Ergomatic years
Marshal medium weight 6-wheeler, 1960-1977, then Marshal 8-wheeler version, Ergomatic cab, approx 1969-1972
Mogul, export model rigid or artic 4x2
■■? as Mogul but 6x4 name escapes me for now
Super Mammoth export model
Marathon 4x2 rigid and artic, 6x4 artic

Some model names such as Majestic and Marathon were first used by Maudslay

hiya,
Another old Maudslay of 1939 vintage was the 8 wheeler Mikado only ever
saw one which I as a young lad drove one pulling a drawbar for a week or
two when I first kicked off would love to see a pic of one,never seen one
since i parked the old girl up when I chucked it after doing holiday relief.
thanks harry, long retired.