ADR Initial course

daf95xf · 21 April 2010 15:29

ROG:

Big Truck:
told by an instructor on the phone that their 5 day ADR course would only count towards 7 hours on my Dcpc

He is confused - 21 for the full initial course and 7 for a refresher

It is 21 hours towards the CPC - thats what my ADR instructor told us yesterday
That means I’ll have done 28 hours

dazask · 23 April 2010 15:08

Hi all finished my adr course today.Does anyone know how long the adr licence will take to come through the post ?Also as i got the 21 hours for my dcpc off the adr course and as i already had 14 hours in the bag how long will it take for the dcpc card to come through the post?
cheers.

daf95xf · 23 April 2010 16:44

dazask:
Hi all finished my adr course today.Does anyone know how long the adr licence will take to come through the post ?Also as i got the 21 hours for my dcpc off the adr course and as i already had 14 hours in the bag how long will it take for the dcpc card to come through the post?
cheers.

Where did you do your ADR?
As I finished mine today to

rog · 23 April 2010 17:19

dazask:
how long will it take for the dcpc card to come through the post?

2 to 3 weeks

dazask · 23 April 2010 17:37

DAF95XF:

dazask:
Hi all finished my adr course today.Does anyone know how long the adr licence will take to come through the post ?Also as i got the 21 hours for my dcpc off the adr course and as i already had 14 hours in the bag how long will it take for the dcpc card to come through the post?
cheers.

Where did you do your ADR?
As I finished mine today to

Hi Daf95xf i did mine at tyne and wear training mate.how do you feel you did then mate?

dazask · 23 April 2010 17:38

ROG:

dazask:
how long will it take for the dcpc card to come through the post?

2 to 3 weeks

Cheers Rog.

daf95xf · 23 April 2010 18:21

dazask:
Hi Daf95xf i did mine at tyne and wear training mate.how do you feel you did then mate?

I did mine at Northampton…
My head is fit to explode

dazask · 23 April 2010 18:35

DAF95XF:

dazask:
Hi Daf95xf i did mine at tyne and wear training mate.how do you feel you did then mate?

I did mine at Northampton…
My head is fit to explode

Lol yeah i know what you mean mate my heads done in! do you feel you done ok then?

daf95xf · 23 April 2010 18:48

dazask:
Lol yeah i know what you mean mate my heads done in! do you feel you done ok then?

Yeah, I think I did OK…

dieseldave · 23 April 2010 19:31

ROG:

Big Truck:
told by an instructor on the phone that their 5 day ADR course would only count towards 7 hours on my Dcpc

He is confused - 21 for the full initial course and 7 for a refresher

It may be different in NI ROG, and I’ll admit that I’ve no idea whether the instructor was correct.

Ignoring the fact that Big Truck is in NI, there’s always the possibility that any ADR provider on the mainland may only register any seven hour chunk of an ADR course if they wish.

dazask · 19 May 2010 10:15

Hi all recieved my ADR licence today and im pleased to say i passed everything including tanks!

rog · 19 May 2010 10:47

dazask:
Hi all recieved my ADR licence today and im pleased to say i passed everything including tanks!

dr_dubya · 17 January 2011 18:19

dieseldave:

dazask:
As ive already got 14 hours in the bag this would give me my driver cpc till 2019 i believe.

Correct.

Sorry for bumping an old post on a sidebar topic, and also if I’m being a bit thick and missing something obvious, but how does that work out?
Assuming we’re talking about acquired rights taking the OP up to 2014, then surely periodic training done before that date isn’t going to count to a post-2014 DCPC unless the final seven hour segment is done in 2014?

dieseldave · 17 January 2011 23:09

Dr Dubya:

dieseldave:

dazask:
As ive already got 14 hours in the bag this would give me my driver cpc till 2019 i believe.

Correct.

Sorry for bumping an old post on a sidebar topic, and also if I’m being a bit thick and missing something obvious, but how does that work out?
Assuming we’re talking about acquired rights taking the OP up to 2014, then surely periodic training done before that date isn’t going to count to a post-2014 DCPC unless the final seven hour segment is done in 2014?

Hi Dr Dubya,

You’re not thick at all mate, cos you’re spot-on.

With acquired (grandfather) rights, the 35 hours must be completed by Sept 9th 2014 to give a DQC which would be valid until 2019.
Whether all 35 hours are completed now, or at the last gasp, the DQC expiry date (2019) will be the same for all those with grandfather rights.
(I’m ignoring any PCV stuff here, but their DCPC came out a year earlier than the DCPC for LGV drivers, so theirs runs until 2018.)

dr_dubya · 19 January 2011 12:09

Thanks for that Dave, I’ve been labouring under some false assumptions. I had thought that the five year validity began from the completion of the last 7 hour segment, eg last seven hour segment done in 2011 means DCPC valid from 2011 to 2016.

Back to the original topic of ADR initial course, I’m about to book onto one for the end of January and having some extra time on my hands (ie agency work all dried up since Xmas) I was wanting to do some pre-course reading but have been unable to find previous exam papers or course notes, books etc (apart from a two-volume book for £104 !). Any suggestions for getting a bit of a head start?

animal · 19 January 2011 13:05

TBH you shouldnt need it but a quick look in here might answer some of your questions

viewforum.php?f=7

I know when I done mine I didnt do any extra reading apart form what info was on here & passed easy enough as the papers are multi choice

Depends where you are thinking of taking it

peirre · 19 January 2011 16:01

I had a convo last night with someone regarding the DCPC which reinforces what is previously written.
As the guy is intending to acumilate 1-2 x 7hr module per year each Jan, and taking the last 7hrs pre-sept 2014. As he recconed that completing all 35hrs now would put him on the rolling 5yr cycle pre-2014.
I`ve got a least 1 module to catch up on him too

dr_dubya · 20 January 2011 12:45

animal:
Depends where you are thinking of taking it

I know all training can differ in quality, but is it a major factor for ADR? i would have hoped (ever the optimist) that there would be auditing for training quality by JAUPT even if there wasn’t already similar quality control in place by whoever is the professional body for ADR training.

I’m planning to do mine with Roberts Training, Stockton. I’ve searched Trucknet and can only find one complaint about them, but as that relates to LGV training and (lack of) re-test support it didn’t seem too relevant.
Unless anyone else knows different…

animal · 20 January 2011 17:29

Where abouts are you based then
As I do know that Tyne & wear LGV now do ADR they have a new purpose build classroom for this

As with all things there are some trainer better than others ( suppose like school some teachers better than others )

SQA are the qualifying body for ADR now

dieseldave · 21 January 2011 01:04

Dr Dubya:
I was wanting to do some pre-course reading but have been unable to find previous exam papers or course notes, books etc (apart from a two-volume book for £104 !).

Hi Dr Dubya,
I can save you some time with that search mate, cos you won’t find any past papers.
Past papers are deleted and shredded because they’re out of date.

The books for £104 are the whole of ADR, but WADR, it probably wouldn’t make any sense to you without the DGSA course that goes with them.
But seriously, why would you want to work yourself through 1,300ish pages only to find out that over 95% of it is of no relevance to a driver?

The ADR course that you’re considering is the qualification required for a driver to transport dangerous goods.
The course syllabus sets out the requirements for driver training, which are based on a driver’s responsibilities under ADR.
You will also gain an overview of the other participants and their responsibilities such that you understand the ‘chain.’ However, you CANNOT be asked any questions about those responsibilities or how things are worked out, because of where the responsibilities lie.

For instance, ADR says that it is for the consignor (sender) to correctly classify the dangerous goods to be carried, so as long as you know that, you’re fine. However, you WON’T be asked how to classify, because it isn’t part of a driver’s duties.

I would suggest that any study that you might do in advance would very likely be wasted, because you probably wouldn’t know which subject areas to study, let alone at what depth, so my advice is that you approach your course with an open mind and let your instructor do their job. There is a requirement that the training provider gives you something (a book or handout) to take away and keep.

Dr Dubya:
Any suggestions for getting a bit of a head start?

You’ll be able to answer a number of ADR exam questions if you can learn the names and numbers of the 9 danger classes and the colours of the labels. That info, with pictures of the labels is about halfway down this post in answer to a question by hutchie.

If you read the rest of the pages in that topic, you’ll see just how tricky ADR can be, but you can always rest assured that a driver doesn’t learn ADR in order to answer the type of questions that you’ll see in the link.

Please enjoy your course and please don’t worry about it, cos you should be told all that you need to know.

I’ll be here if you get stuck.