Despite being born in a hospital on this road - I have never liked it for it’s dangerous twists and turns to this day.
Another one gone folks - RIP Driver.
Despite being born in a hospital on this road - I have never liked it for it’s dangerous twists and turns to this day.
Another one gone folks - RIP Driver.
R.I.P drive
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nobody deserves to lose their life to the job, rest in peace driver
The A21 has always been low priority for road improvements, just a hotchpotch of short bypasses that move bottlenecks from one place to another. Robertsbridge, Lamberhurst & Pembury are the main ones. But South of Kippings Cross (Paddock Wood turn off) down to Hastings is always stop/go traffic at the busy times.
I can see a long stretch of the Southern part of the A21 from my home and almost every night and early morning all I can see is slow moving traffic. This road used to be my daily route to and from work and I often had to divert to my alternative routes!
The A22 down to Eastbourne is just as bad!!
I find the section between Lamberhurst and Flimwell the most nervewracking at night, with dazzle on blind summits and bends on a fast-moving, quite narrow single carriageway. Where this happened in the dual carriageway section on the run up to the Blue Boys roundabout is really quite tame by comparison.
Another fatal with the Bus Driver now killed - just off the A21 in Orpington. RIP
I worked at Vinehall School for nearly 10 years, so used it pretty regularly, it was the drivers that were dangerous, not the road.
Such is life.
And another on the A21 today, just North of Hastings.
It is also worth mentioning that the A229 road, which carries a lot of traffic in the same general direction as the southern part of the A21 - is just as bad…
Narrow lanes, blind corners, and of course the prescence of a lot of HGV traffic going to and from places like British Gypsum, Tipper outfits, Farms and Seaside town Supermarkets…
I try to avoid taking an artic through Hawkhurst for example, or down Colt’s Hill just off the A21 near Pembury.
Let’s face it - The entire corridor of the South-of-M25 A21 is a complete accident black spot!!!
Martin:
The A22 down to Eastbourne is just as bad!!
I don’t think there’s anywhere on the A22 that’s as bad as the A21. The A21 is made worse by the northern third being a dual carriageway now that the Tonbridge-Pembury gap has been filled. The A22 is all single carriageway from the A25 at Godstone down to Hailsham and nearly all of it is wider than the narrow bits of the A21 and there are improved sections like the Maresfield-Uckfield bypass and the diverted section north of Eastbourne. Whereas if you’re coming off the Pembury bypass onto that little lane down to Lamberhurst you’ll be in motorway mode and not used to having to take care.
I wonder why the A21 (unlike the A22) is a trunk road given its low priority; Hastings is big but it’s a faded seaside resort and is a favourite dumping ground for local authorities in London and other wealthy areas.
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I wonder why the A21 (unlike the A22) is a trunk road given its low priority; Hastings is big but it’s a faded seaside resort and is a favourite dumping ground for local authorities in London and other wealthy areas.
off topic I know, but in the late 80’s I used to park up on the front at hastings and just up the road was a pub called the nelson where you could get a lovely brekkie … happy days…
IndigoJo:
I wonder why the A21 (unlike the A22) is a trunk road given its low priority; Hastings is big but it’s a faded seaside resort and is a favourite dumping ground for local authorities in London and other wealthy areas.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Please do not insult my home town, I live here and love it despite the DFL’s (Down From London) . We have tried the Trump plan to build a wall but some dipstick keeps on pulling it down
It helps out this dualled bit between the A26 “Vauxhall” - but there are plenty of other places where derelict roadside so-called “properties” need to be demolished, and the road widened.
Surely the main reason that people are against “Compulsory Purchase” orders for such properties is that they either get too greedy for an unreasonable offer that never comes (like asking for £500,000 for your run-down outsides hithouse shack) OR it is the other extreme where developers offer a pittance like “site value +25%” for an immaculate propery that you’d lie down in front of a bulldozer for…?
m.a.n rules:
I wonder why the A21 (unlike the A22) is a trunk road given its low priority; Hastings is big but it’s a faded seaside resort and is a favourite dumping ground for local authorities in London and other wealthy areas.off topic I know, but in the late 80’s I used to park up on the front at hastings and just up the road was a pub called the nelson where you could get a lovely brekkie … happy days…
Don’t start knocking Hastings, it’s a wonderful place to live…or so the wife tells me
Winseer:
It helps out this dualled bit between the A26 “Vauxhall” - but there are plenty of other places where derelict roadside so-called “properties” need to be demolished, and the road widened.Surely the main reason that people are against “Compulsory Purchase” orders for such properties is that they either get too greedy for an unreasonable offer that never comes (like asking for £500,000 for your run-down outsides hithouse shack) OR it is the other extreme where developers offer a pittance like “site value +25%” for an immaculate propery that you’d lie down in front of a bulldozer for…?
Who are you or me to say that the offer that they get for their home is reasonable or not. It might not look much to us but maybe all their families are near by and the money that is offered is not enough to buy another home locally. Perhaps instead of a money offer a new home could be built nearby for them so that they are still close to families etc.
So should these dangerous sections on roads like the A21, A22, A228, A229, A259, A262, A274 be subject to a reduced speed limit for HGV? Did the increase a few years ago actually make roads like these safer or not?
cav551:
So should these dangerous sections on roads like the A21, A22, A228, A229, A259, A262, A274 be subject to a reduced speed limit for HGV? Did the increase a few years ago actually make roads like these safer or not?
On most of the “dangerous” sections of the A21 it would actually be very difficult to reach the speed limit. Reducing the limit for HGV’s could actually make things worse as impatient car/motorcycle drivers would be trying to overtake and result in more accidents.
There is already a 40 mph limit on the Kent Street section just north of Hastings and that’s where the last 2 HGV accidents happened.
cav551:
So should these dangerous sections on roads like the A21, A22, A228, A229, A259, A262, A274 be subject to a reduced speed limit for HGV? Did the increase a few years ago actually make roads like these safer or not?
The A22 is an advert in itself for the higher speed limit; crawling along at 40mph on the Uckfield bypass is the epitome of pointlessness. On most of the A21 you wouldn’t reach that speed anyway in between all the twists and turns.
And if people are driving stupidly but not technically speeding, the authorities can always lower the speed limit for everyone.
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Cornering “Too Fast” - seems to be the main problem - for ANY vehicle. You hit something coming the other way… Possibly both drivers injured and/or killed…