just having a laugh jack, if you did not want to lose them then you went two high, flysheet and rope, then another two high, full sheet and rope and bobs your uncle
Keep room for a fadge drive !!
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Keep room for a fadge drive
I had to pause and think “whats a bloody fadge” then I remembered 
anyone tell me how to attach a photo to a post ■■?
frankie_breslin:
anyone tell me how to attach a photo to a post ■■?
Yeah Frankie,just click on the upload attachment box and click on the photo you want to post
the photes above belong to jeff ellener
Jack Graham:
Hi Kieth, loading wool was a job on it’s own, there were so many different bales, so many shapes, and so many sizes, your Ozzie’s and New Zealand bails were almost alike, but some were doubles, two bales fastened together with wire banding so they weighed twice as much, most of them came in through Liverpool/Hull/ Goole, but they also came in through London/ Southampton and Portsmouth.
They always said your not a wool man untill you’ve had a load off, my first one was in Hull on Hesstle Road it was a copper who stoped me to tell me I was cleaning all the vans as I went past them, and second was on my way up from London both with my Seddon 8 wheeler, it was when they started using man made fiber to make the bagging, it was so slippy it was almost impossible to keep on, it didnt grip like the old sacking, Thank god they started using containers, they were safe inside rather than being on open lorries, in Halifax they used to charge £1 per bail, and they were always falling off at the bottom of the hill turning left down King Cross st, But I was lucky mine were in Hull and cost me nothing except a bollocking from Harold Priest, the time they came off from London I’d managed to get it to Tonys at Grantham, it was taking 2 lanes up they had spread out but still inside the sheet but too dangerous to go any further, so they sent another trailer out to transship half the load. the best bails were the press packs from the mills in Bradford, they were like big solid bricks but never moved once they were loaded, but they were heavy, China Bales were half the size of a normal press pack, but just as heavy, if you loaded to cab height you had your weight on, there was no need to go on top and they were as solid as a brick and heavy. :-Jack
I remember loading, turkey ( I think thats what they were called ),large pillow shaped bales at Whinkleys Wharf. Finished loading and set off down from the wharf edge to sheetup. I got about 20-30ft before the rear third ended up on the floor, luckily the cranes were Coles mobiles so quickly reloaded and was given a lesson in how to finish off the the rear end from big Mick. Seem to remember the oneway system at the bottom of Archway was a real test for wether youd loaded well or not, youd cut the corners as fast as you dare to get a good start up the hill, miss a gear on the way up and youd be lucky to hold on to your back end. I think a local scap yard did well out of hiring his small mobile crane to put the wool back on the wagons. Sometimes its suprising how much timber was used for support across the bale ends especially if you thought you had some soft bales on. It only took a couple of soft single bales for a side to collapse. Better if you could get your doubles on the first two layers then your singles on top. Not sure about using a plastic fly sheet on second layer, Frankie, think it would be too slippy especially if wet, Ive roped every layer at one time or another though. Always wished we could have had longbines to go with the side and rear ratchets, they were hard to come by and even harder to hold on to.
Jack was the Seddon the one with a glassfibre top on a wooden frame with a perkins engine.
ddrbsn:
Jack Graham:
Hi Kieth, loading wool was a job on it’s own, there were so many different bales, so many shapes, and so many sizes, your Ozzie’s and New Zealand bails were almost alike, but some were doubles, two bales fastened together with wire banding so they weighed twice as much, most of them came in through Liverpool/Hull/ Goole, but they also came in through London/ Southampton and Portsmouth.
They always said your not a wool man untill you’ve had a load off, my first one was in Hull on Hesstle Road it was a copper who stoped me to tell me I was cleaning all the vans as I went past them, and second was on my way up from London both with my Seddon 8 wheeler, it was when they started using man made fiber to make the bagging, it was so slippy it was almost impossible to keep on, it didnt grip like the old sacking, Thank god they started using containers, they were safe inside rather than being on open lorries, in Halifax they used to charge £1 per bail, and they were always falling off at the bottom of the hill turning left down King Cross st, But I was lucky mine were in Hull and cost me nothing except a bollocking from Harold Priest, the time they came off from London I’d managed to get it to Tonys at Grantham, it was taking 2 lanes up they had spread out but still inside the sheet but too dangerous to go any further, so they sent another trailer out to transship half the load. the best bails were the press packs from the mills in Bradford, they were like big solid bricks but never moved once they were loaded, but they were heavy, China Bales were half the size of a normal press pack, but just as heavy, if you loaded to cab height you had your weight on, there was no need to go on top and they were as solid as a brick and heavy. :-JackI remember loading, turkey ( I think thats what they were called ),large pillow shaped bales at Whinkleys Wharf. Finished loading and set off down from the wharf edge to sheetup. I got about 20-30ft before the rear third ended up on the floor, luckily the cranes were Coles mobiles so quickly reloaded and was given a lesson in how to finish off the the rear end from big Mick. Seem to remember the oneway system at the bottom of Archway was a real test for wether you
d loaded well or not, youd cut the corners as fast as you dare to get a good start up the hill, miss a gear on the way up and youd be lucky to hold on to your back end. I think a local scap yard did well out of hiring his small mobile crane to put the wool back on the wagons. Sometimes its suprising how much timber was used for support across the bale ends especially if you thought you had some soft bales on. It only took a couple of soft single bales for a side to collapse. Better if you could get your doubles on the first two layers then your singles on top. Not sure about using a plastic fly sheet on second layer, Frankie, think it would be too slippy especially if wet, Ive roped every layer at one time or another though. Always wished we could have had longbines to go with the side and rear ratchets, they were hard to come by and even harder to hold on to.
Jack was the Seddon the one with a glassfibre top on a wooden frame with a perkins engine.
No the Seddon was the one Tommy Speight had, I got it from him, it was one of the fibre glass ones but it had the Gardener 150 in, originally it had a two speed diff, but Fielder made them take it out because it spent too much time off the road because it was one of there own experimental diffs and it was always over heating. :- Jack
frankie_breslin:
just having a laugh jack, if you did not want to lose them then you went two high, flysheet and rope, then another two high, full sheet and rope and bobs your uncle
Hi Frankie, we roped them at two high to stop them going over and them went up another two high, but when the man made fibre sacking was used it caught us out because we’d never had it before, the one which went on my way from London started moving before I got out of the London area, I kept stopping to throw more rope on but once it moved there was no stopping it, the top bails were dropping down the middle and spreading the load out like a balloon, that’s why I was taking up 2 lanes on the A1, the only thing in my favour was not one bale dropped off, one of the other drivers was following me, and he gave me a lift to Bradford and I went down with another driver to transship half the load, but it was a lesson not to trust the man made fibre and load sensibly, and yes we did use the fly sheet on the second tier but you still had to give the rope two dollies to get them as tight as you could, but as I said wool was a job on it’s own and only the drivers who did it all the time could cope with it, it wasn’t exactly part of general haulage, it wasn’t for everyone. :- Jack
too bloody true jack, a job on it`s own,anyone who says they never had a misshap on the wool haulage is
telling porkies. the man made fibre bales were hard work
hessien bales and long bines ratchets, was a much safer way
BIGGEE:
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Well “BIGGEE” I do know what a fadge is, but pray tell me, what the hells a “iPhone using Tapatalk”, or am I just too old and passed it to understand this modern stuff, “remember some of were born when we were at war with Germany”, not like some of you youngsters.:-Jack
frankie_breslin:
too bloody true jack, a job on it`s own,anyone who says they never had a misshap on the wool haulage is
telling porkies. the man made fibre bales were hard work
hessien bales and long bines ratchets, was a much safer way
Your right Frankie, it was a job on it’s own, we had longbines on all our waggons, but we didnt have then from side to side which we really needed, on my Seddon I got 110 singles on 4 high, and 10 of them were on the lid, but with doubles we often had many more and almost doubling our weight, which is why we should have had ratchets on the sides, imagine if we’d have had straps and ratchets like they have today, it would have been a transport managers dream to get even more on without them falling off, we often had greedy boards on the back to get even more on, I used 3 by 4 timbers the ones we used for steel, we could get another 10 singles on the back, tell me, “were we all mad in those days”, or were we just used to hard work, today they would have a fit if they had to handball a load of wool. :-Jack
Jack Graham:
today they would have a fit if they had to handball a load of wool. :-Jack
I once had to hand ball a load of wool, took all day to do 10. My gran was pleased though.
LeeJ:
Jack Graham:
today they would have a fit if they had to handball a load of wool. :-JackI once had to hand ball a load of wool, took all day to do 10. My gran was pleased though.
Ha would like see you rope an sheet with that lee
frankie_breslin:
old atki0
when i saw the photo i remember you,keith 
A bit of a long shot here but i’m trying to contact a friend who i used to share a house with. Her name is nick y Hutchinson and her dad was russ Hutchison who used to own aone . If anyone can help i would be very gratefully. Thanks.
tolekim:
A bit of a long shot here but i’m trying to contact a friend who i used to share a house with. Her name is nick y Hutchinson and her dad was russ Hutchison who used to own aone . If anyone can help i would be very gratefully. Thanks.
Hi “tolekim”, I think you had some wrong info there, Russel Hutchinson was the “General Manager”, he was the next man down from Jack Robinson who owned “A One”, there were a few people who didnt like him because of his attitude, but if you looked through all that he was a good bloke to run a company like A One Transport, he was the one who held it together and made it the big company it was.
Regarding his family, I know he had a son, but I dont know about a daughter may-be some of the other drivers may know. :-Jack
Hi all, I met up with John Robinson yesterday in Bedale, he has come over for a visit and doing the rounds visiting some of his family, he’s the driver I went to see last year when I was in Florida, and I think we must thank him for bringing the warm weather with him, there a real nice couple and we had a good chat over tea in the town, he must have done OK for himself while over there because he’s taken early retirement, so both him and his wife can enjoy being together, now he’s off the road. :-Jack.