Melksham Town Hall, and in the late 1930s Spiers lined up the fleet for a picture
Morris Commercial, the first new lorry bought by Bill and Albert Spiers in 1934. It might look to have a good load on, but it is a load of feathers destined for a local pillow makers.
Morris Commercial with Gardner 4LK
MTS Streamlined body Leyland Octopus of the mid-1930s
Millennium Mills Line up circa 1956
Max Headroom Mandator
One of the previous model built by Loheac.
Martins Albion in Newcastle upon Tyne, Regards Larry.
mushroomman:
Maudslay outside The Elk Mill, Chadderton.Mandator.
TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.A To Z Transport Miscellaney.Maudslay,AEC,Burrell.VALKYRIE.Wednesday,9th August,2017.
The ‘Maudslay’ is a actually a Leyland Hippo TSW Rigid Six-Wheeler Lorry of circa 1933-1939.
The AEC Mandator Ergomatic 4x2-8 Lowloader Articulated Lorry,UTD 997M,Greenbooth Construction Co.Ltd,Oldham,is transporting
preserved Burrell DDC 3 7NHP Showmans Road Locomotive,Engine No.2879,NO 698,LORD NELSON.February 1907,originally operated by
Henry Thurston,Northampton,shown here:-
My first directly uploaded photograph on to TruckNetUK 
EUREKA! 
VALKYRIE
Congratulations Valkyrie, lets hope that you can now upload many more interesting photos to accompany all of your very interesting posts.
Most of my photos that I have put on to Trucknet over the years have now disappeared as I uploaded them through Photobucket instead of downloading them straight from my computer onto the Trucknet site. So I spent all day yesterday looking for that photo which was taken outside The Elk Mill to no avail. If I did a Google image search the photo would come up but when I try and send the photo to my computer it downloads as a very small picture. 
This afternoon I came across an old D.V.D. that I was experimenting with years ago and one of the few photos that are on it is that one that I was told was a probably a Maudslay.
The story that goes with that photo is that many years ago my brother bought it at a car boot sale in Oldham and sent it over to me. I put it on Trucknet to ask if anybody knew what it was and somebody said that it was probably a Maudslay. I was very surprised when an old Trucknet member called Jack Kershaw replied and said that the driver (or his grandfather) was the driver in the photo, so I hope that Jack made a copy of it.
Sometime later a friend of mine sent me quite a few old Seddon photos so I started a ‘Some Old Seddon’s’ thread on here but as I loaded them through Photobucket I now can’t access them. I have also been looking for a photo of a Metal Box Seddon to add to this thread but that has also disappeared.
As I thought all those old black and white photos of the Seddon’s might of been interesting to somebody I decided that they would be better off back in the U.K. so I sent them to a Trucknet member called Alan Sleight R.I.P. a.k.a. Big Al along with the original photo of what I presumed was a Maudslay outside The Elk Mill. Alan had a friend who had worked for Atkinson/Seddon and was very interested in both the companies histories so hopefully they ended up in a good home.
So thanks for clearing that up Valkyrie that the photo is actually of a Leyland Hippo.
The Greenbooth Mandator was driven from new by my brother, Foden 46 R.I.P. for several years before it was replaced by a Seddon.
Regards Steve.
gingerfold:
Yes, the Maudslay Mustang (it is the correct model name) was built after AEC took over. One of the reasons for what were fundamentally AECs being badged as Maudslays, apart from “badge engineering”, was to circumvent post WW2 steel rationing. So AEC was allocated a certain tonnage of steel and Maudslay also had its own separate allocation. The twin steer type was never an AEC model until it acquired Maudslay, something to do with the AEC braking system that wasn’t easily modified for a hand brake system on the second steering axle. In those days hand brakes had to be effective on 50% of the lorry’s axles to meet type approval and C&U Regs. The Maudslay factory at Alcester became AEC’s special products facility designing and building the Dumptruk models as well as producing all the axles for itself and Southall. After the Leyland take over Alcester was eventually sold off to Rockwell and if you were familiar with Maudslay / AEC rear axles you could still spot that ancestry in the later Rockwell axles, especially the hubs.
Thanks for your comprehensive explanation “GF” am I right in thinking that the Big J 6 speed box was manufactured at Alcester and possibly the Axle ? Cheers Dennis.
mushroomman:
Congratulations Valkyrie, lets hope that you can now upload many more interesting photos to accompany all of your very interesting posts.
Most of my photos that I have put on to Trucknet over the years have now disappeared as I uploaded them through Photobucket instead of downloading them straight from my computer onto the Trucknet site. So I spent all day yesterday looking for that photo which was taken outside The Elk Mill to no avail. If I did a Google image search the photo would come up but when I try and send the photo to my computer it downloads as a very small picture.
This afternoon I came across an old D.V.D. that I was experimenting with years ago and one of the few photos that are on it is that one that I was told was a probably a Maudslay.
The story that goes with that photo is that many years ago my brother bought it at a car boot sale in Oldham and sent it over to me. I put it on Trucknet to ask if anybody knew what it was and somebody said that it was probably a Maudslay. I was very surprised when an old Trucknet member called Jack Kershaw replied and said that the driver (or his grandfather) was the driver in the photo, so I hope that Jack made a copy of it.
Sometime later a friend of mine sent me quite a few old Seddon photos so I started a ‘Some Old Seddon’s’ thread on here but as I loaded them through Photobucket I now can’t access them. I have also been looking for a photo of a Metal Box Seddon to add to this thread but that has also disappeared.
As I thought all those old black and white photos of the Seddon’s might of been interesting to somebody I decided that they would be better off back in the U.K. so I sent them to a Trucknet member called Alan Sleight R.I.P. a.k.a. Big Al along with the original photo of what I presumed was a Maudslay outside The Elk Mill. Alan had a friend who had worked for Atkinson/Seddon and was very interested in both the companies histories so hopefully they ended up in a good home.
So thanks for clearing that up Valkyrie that the photo is actually of a Leyland Hippo.
The Greenbooth Mandator was driven from new by my brother, Foden 46 R.I.P. for several years before it was replaced by a Seddon.Regards Steve.
TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.A To Z Transport Miscellaney.Leyland,Maudslay,Merryweather.VALKYRIE.Wednesday,9th August,2017.
Thanks for the comments I too have had a hell of a lot of photographs blocked by the iniquitous Photobucket not only on TruckNetUK but
also on several other forums 
Photobucket has callously wrecked millions of important posts on millions of forums and other
websites! Photobucket deserve to go out of business! with their impersonal ransom! And millions of other former
Photobucket users are saying exactly the same thing!
This is another photograph of a Leyland Hippo TSW which is the same model of lorry as the lorry in your Elk Mill,Chadderton,photograph -
Leyland Hippo TSW8D,Flat-Bodied,Rigid 6x4 Lorry,ANG 224.1935.:-
To restore the balance of the letter M in this thread,there are no less than three M’s involved in the subject of this photograph! :-
Maudslay Marquis,Merryweather Limousine Pump Escape Fire Engine.1955.Advertisement. Fire Engine Photos:-
VALKYRIE
Bewick:
gingerfold:
Yes, the Maudslay Mustang (it is the correct model name) was built after AEC took over. One of the reasons for what were fundamentally AECs being badged as Maudslays, apart from “badge engineering”, was to circumvent post WW2 steel rationing. So AEC was allocated a certain tonnage of steel and Maudslay also had its own separate allocation. The twin steer type was never an AEC model until it acquired Maudslay, something to do with the AEC braking system that wasn’t easily modified for a hand brake system on the second steering axle. In those days hand brakes had to be effective on 50% of the lorry’s axles to meet type approval and C&U Regs. The Maudslay factory at Alcester became AEC’s special products facility designing and building the Dumptruk models as well as producing all the axles for itself and Southall. After the Leyland take over Alcester was eventually sold off to Rockwell and if you were familiar with Maudslay / AEC rear axles you could still spot that ancestry in the later Rockwell axles, especially the hubs.Thanks for your comprehensive explanation “GF” am I right in thinking that the Big J 6 speed box was manufactured at Alcester and possibly the Axle ? Cheers Dennis.
The gearboxes were made at the Thornycroft factory at Basingstoke, which had been acquired by AEC in 1961, about 12 or 18 months before Leyland took over everything. Thornycroft was also a specialist vehicle division with the Mighty Antar and airfield fire tenders being made. Eventually this factory was disposed of to Eaton for gearbox manufacture and some of the last AECs to be built actually had the same Thornycroft / AEC gearbox but with an Eaton name plate riveted into the top cover. The Guy Big J axle was Guy’s own design and this was also used in some lower powered Marathon models such as the RR and L10 engined versions (for Texaco). Just as the RR engine in the ERF was the cheapest model then the Marathon with the RR engine and Guy back axle was the cheapest offering in the Marathon line-up. It is interesting that with three American companies owning gearbox, axles, and engine factories in the UK then it is often overlooked that such as ERF and Seddon Atkinson were virtually 100% British manufacture. Eaton had factories at Walkden and Basingstoke; Rockwell were at Alcester; and ■■■■■■■ had plants (green field developments) at Shotts (1956) Darlington (1962/3), and later at Kettering. Of all these components factories only ■■■■■■■■ Darlington plant survives making engines with the parts warehouse and distribution centre at Wellingborough.
Couple of Soviet stalwarts
Something for the BMC fans!
