Hey Sploom, what if you’ve backed the wrong horse? 
youtube.com/watch?v=4Zv7toE87zo
> Sploom:
> Right,so now weve established you are a lying theiving ,adultering sinner by your own admission.If there is a perfect God,you dont deserve to be in His presence because He is perfect and youre not
I note no reference to ‘Childery’ only ‘Adultery’ - Is that the reason for so much Paedophilia & Child abuse by Christians of all types in positions of trust?
Sploom:
I remember years ago,as a teenager,I was given a Bible.I remember reading
What?..
You were also into all this sh as a teenager??
When I was teenager it was all ‘Anarchy in the UK’ Johnny Rotten, cheap beer, and girls.
As for reading,.all I read was Football monthly and copies of Razzle.
What a sheltered life you have led mate. 
I didnt get the jokes,but as for phadophiles,Im assuming that this is a sin commited by a minority of people,so not much point when Im trying to a crowd ,but I am totally sure that those who abuse children will be held accountable on judgement day and rightly so.
As regards the oncology wards for children.I would all sickness ,disease and death entered the world when one man’s sin corrupted the world and the ground was cursed.It wasnt in Gods original design for any of us to have cancer.But it does illustrate the seriousness of sin.
I think we are all tainted with sin,even from birth.If you have kids,you know that you dont have to teach them to lie,or squabble,or blameshift each other.If you are a parent,you know what I am talking about.These things all come naturally without teaching.
Robroy,no,I never got saved till later life but my dad,who was catholic took me to Billy Graham event in villa park and there were Bibles being given out.Thats when I read the gospel of Mathew,but my eyes werent open to the gospel message at the time,so it wasnt long before my mind was on thoses other things you mention that bring instant pleasure but not joy.
youtu.be/x7G3Wf3FV6o
I was in the crowd,I remember Cliff Richard being there.
The nodding donkey.
People like you are,to be fair,easier to deal with.At least you know where you stand.Nothing more annoying that lukewarm Christians,those that think they are saved but arent.They are mentioned here in the book of Mathew.
Sploom:
Robroy,no,I never got saved till later life but my dad,who was catholic took me to Billy Graham event in villa park and there were Bibles being given out.Thats when I read the gospel of Mathew,but my eyes werent open to the gospel message at the time,so it wasnt long before my mind was on thoses other things you mention that bring instant pleasure but not joy.
youtu.be/x7G3Wf3FV6o
I was in the crowd,I remember Cliff Richard being there.
Ok so when I was listening to The Jam,.The Clash and the Pistols, you were into Cliff Richard …ok I think I’m getting a picture of you now. 
It all takes me back to this thread that I put to you a while ago tbh. 
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Absolutley no way,I wasnt into Cliff Richard!
Dexys midnight runners,queen,two tone,usual stuff.But that song wired for sund,I liked that thoigh
Sploom:
As regards the oncology wards for children.I would all sickness ,disease and death entered the world when one man’s sin corrupted the world and the ground was cursed.It wasnt in Gods original design for any of us to have cancer. But it does illustrate the seriousness of sin.
But your imaginary friend in the sky is supposed to be omnipotent is he not? How can anything that happens on earth not be part of “his plan”? That’s what your kind tell people who are suffering isn’t it? “It’s all part of God’s plan for you” ?
So your onmipotent I.F.I.T.S decided that little six year old Bradley Lowery was a sinner and deserved to die, according to your perverted “religion”, I see…
theguardian.com/uk-news/201 … ncer-fight
Sploom:
I think we are all tainted with sin,
Is your mental ill-health a result of your sin? You’re nutty as a fruitcake, in case you don’t realise, and very much in need of professional medical attention.
Sploom:
If you have kids,you know that you dont have to teach them to lie,or squabble,or blameshift each other.If you are a parent,you know what I am talking about.These things all come naturally without teaching.
I am very much a parent, I accept my children as they are, normal human beings; if they lie or squabble I accept that for what it it, basic human nature, it’s not some big drama, and certainly not some kind of weirdness.
It’s certainly not as “sinful” or “wrong” as believing an “imaginary friend in the sky” wants you to “prove” yourself by the sacrifice of your first-born son on a bonfire, is it? (Let me guess, you selectively don’t believe in that part of your book)
Incidentally, both of my kids can easily demolish your “belief system”, because they are intelligent, rational and love science, especially paleontology, which I know to you is “a test from god”, despite ALLLLLLLLLLLL the physical evidence that exists.
Sploom:
Absolutley no way,I wasnt into Cliff Richard!
Dexys midnight runners,queen,two tone,usual stuff.But that song wired for sund,I liked that thoigh
Dexys,. Queen,.and 2 tone eh?
I thought my musical taste was varied.
Anybody would think.you Googled them. 
Zac_A
God didnt tell Adam to eat the forbidden fruit.He told him not to.
I notice nobody is denying being a lying,stealing adlurer!
Not implying you are,but I just noticed,thats all.
So,we are all sinners then,so yes,our minds have been corrupted by sin.
Its not just cancer in children.Death and ageing,these are things that are not in Gods plan.We have to die ,in order to have a new immortal body that is not subject to disease,and to death.
So,now we have estblished,all the people around us are sinners,now there is the only one,totally innocent,Jesus,who took the due penalty for the sins of mankind
Possibly Sploom
But maybe Adam had eaten the same mushrooms that caused Eve to hear the serpent speak, and him to hear an imaginary God ■■
My money is on both of them being on Mushrooms, I blame Keith Richards for showing them which ones to pick.
> Sploom:
> So, now we have established there is the only one, totally innocent, Jesus,who took the due penalty for the sins of mankind
And I guess also the sins of his father for committing adultery with Mary, Joseph comes out of it well by not kicking her out for her cheating with God.
I’ve managed to splice together scientific belief with Christian belief - just fine.
I’m not any certain “Denomination” nor “A scientologist” mind.
Overall, I’m against so-called “Organized Religon” because the people that run it - are already plainly compromised by Evil on Earth today.
They should be preaching against Evil, rather than mamby-pamby “Liberally going along” with everything that offends in public, such as Gaia Worship, anything the government supports, not backing up Christians in trouble for being “Righteous” etc.
As for “Cancer in Children” - This scourge of mankind has been around as long as civilization itself.
It is a form of bodily corruption that shortens our aready-short lifespans even more.
“Man, that is born of a Woman - hath but a short time to live, and is full of misery”.
The human spieces became corrupt in the first place - by being Human.
We are bound to this Earth because of our humanity and humans choosing humanity over a more ethereal existance. “The Fall”.
“Since by Man came Death. By man also came the resurrection of the dead”.
We don’t get to to into space to leave this place, to colonize other worlds in this form.
We must become something we are not at present, which will be less human and something rather more ethereal.
Christ says “No one shall get to the Father - except by Me”
We need the help of Christ - to become a spacefaring Spiecies, then.
When we look at how Humanity’s exploits into space have basically face-planted, and then flat-lined since the 1980’s - it is time we ALL look an inward look, regardless of our beliefs, and recognized that we’re now stuck in an endless cycle of “Expansion, War, Corruption, Decline, Die-Back, Dark Age, Renaissance, Expansion, War, Corruption” - seemingly without end, as we cannot break the cycle UPWARDS.
By expanding into Space, colonizing Space, and only fighting future wars in space - rather than upon each other, down here on a world we continue to be marooned upon.
The Devil, being “cast down”, is marooned down here with us, unable to leave this place neither.
I conclude that “Hell” is a place on Earth, rather than Heaven then.
Heaven on the other hand, indeed is “up there, in sight, but forever out-of-reach” - just like the stars and other worlds out there themselves.
“Space” is merely the “Ocean between us” God’s Kingdom and Man’s Dominion.
Pursuit of Gaian philophosy is a folly, as what we are doing is affecting negatively the finely-balanced natural cycles upon the Earth - likely with disasterous long-term results BECAUSE we’re intervening. Eg. “Cutting down CO2” emissions actually triggers the natural equillibrium to produce MORE CO2 (Eg. by forest fires) and promote rapid plant growth in areas where we really don’t need it (“Cities reclaimed by the Jungle”)
Because society on the whole, has rejected God for the main reason of “God is not enough what we expected for us to accept him” - we languish in our hubris and lifespan “senility” (can’t think ahead more than a human lifespan) and continue to do so, despite clear answers being readily available as “How to get on”.
If sci-fi wise, “The needs of the Many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one” then in a religious sense, we should be serving rather LESS “Minority Interests” like “Green” or “Social Issues” and serving rather MORE Majority Interests, such as World Poverty rather than World Peace, Wealth of Nations, rather than the Wealth of Elites, and of course the Employed Workforce and those retired from it, over the Unempoyable, and those who never took part in the world of work.
“Issues” then - are as important as they ever were, and YES - from anyone’s point-of-view- they are clealy right-leaning by comparison to all that Marxism etc. has to offer mankind.
If I can’t convert a non-believer, maybe I might pitch an alternative to a hardened Socialist somewhere instead, to “See the Light”. 
Winseer.
I dont want you to feel I am ignoring you I will need more time to read your post
Sploom:
Winseer.
I dont want you to feel I am ignoring you I will need more time to read your post
Life is just far too short to read Winseers posts mate.
The other music,Prince 1999,I remember watching the video for the first time,all the purple lights and that purple motorbike he had,I liked purple rain too.But,about all the lights and stage effects,its good but when you are younger ,it makes more of an impression than when you get older,if that makes sense
robroy:
Sploom:
Winseer.
I dont want you to feel I am ignoring you I will need more time to read your post
Life is just far too short to read Winseers posts mate.
I don’t take that as an insult, as it is commonplace for people to totally neglect good old-fashioned BOOK READING these days…
What wonderful eyes people must have - if they can read biased bullshine on an Iphone screen, no less…
I dunno how people do half the stuff that Iphones have attributed to them…
Winseer:
robroy:
Sploom:
Winseer.
I dont want you to feel I am ignoring you I will need more time to read your post
Life is just far too short to read Winseers posts mate.I don’t take that as an insult, as it is commonplace for people to totally neglect good old-fashioned BOOK READING these days…
What wonderful eyes people must have - if they can read biased bullshine on an Iphone screen, no less…
I dunno how people do half the stuff that Iphones have attributed to them…
You can take it however tf you like mate,.I aint fussed one way or the other.
Wrong again btw,.I happen to be an avid reader of books fyi.
Sploom:
Zac_AI notice nobody is denying being a lying,stealing adlurer!
Not implying you are,but I just noticed,thats all.
Oh I dream of being an adlurer, sounds great!
If no one is admitting to the things you describe, then that’s no surprise, why would anyone want to wash their dirty linen in public? Even good people can do “bad things”, it doesn’t mean they’re “bad people”, just that they are human. I myself am very much “human”, take from that what you will.
Unlike you religionists, I don’t necessarily judge someone just because they might have been “naughty”, I judge people by what I see of their behaviour. Consequently I’m very much averse to people who take an excessively high moral stance with other people, a bit like your imaginary mate who allegedly said (quite neatly) “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”. Basically, “away with you, you’re all a bunch of hypocrites”, which I can relate to.
So,we are all sinners then,
Not in my book
so yes,our minds have been corrupted by sin.
No, not to my way of thinking.
Its not just cancer in children.Death and ageing,these are things that are not in Gods plan.We have to die ,in order to have a new immortal body that is not subject to disease,and to death.
An immortal body that no one can see because it’s imaginary 
I said earlier, your I.F.I.T.S is supposed to be omnipotent, according to his marketing people: If he is, then childern with cancer is his sick amusement for himself, if he isn’t omnipotent then the lies in your book start with Genesis and the claim he created the whole universe.
Only people well-versed in lies, doublethink and self-delusion can follow a religion the way you claim to do. See Matthew 7:5 “You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”
So,now we have estblished,all the people around us are sinners,now there is the only one,totally innocent,Jesus,who took the due penalty for the sins of mankind
No, that’s just your fairy stories again, which most of us here are rejecting.
whisperingsmith:
But maybe Adam had eaten the same mushrooms that caused Eve to hear the serpent speak, and him to hear an imaginary God ■■My money is on both of them being on Mushrooms,
I’m not happy about this: Sploom, Winseer and CF clearly have a massive stash of 'shrooms and they’re keeping them all to themselves instead of sharing them around the rest of us - that’s not fair, I haven’t heard a talking snake for years