A religion question for Robroy,but will he give me a straigh

Franglais:

Winseer:
Bookmakers - rely on people’s luck being at it’s worst - when they are over-staking, of course.

I think not.
Bookmakers generally understand chance and probability.
Gamblers (mostly) talk about “luck”.
If that were true, then why do Bookmakers refuse bets from people that have bet the most IF they are winning even occasionally, but rush to accept bets no matter how large - even from those people they know cannot afford to lose that money in their pocket/on the account?

Sploom:
I dont do any kind of gambling generally.

Weve already had Feynman mentioned on this thread. He did IIRC gamble successfully. He didnt play against the house (the house sets the odds in it`s own favour) but would have side bets with other punters. Effectively he would set the odds for a particular bet, he would become “the house” for one off bets. He won because he did understand probability theory.

If you lay bets rather than stake them yourself, then yes - the odds are then in your favour, as if you say, cover another punters £100 on Black (by offering to pay them out at EVENS if Black comes in) then that house 3% edge - works in your favour, not the other punters - because of the green zero.

Meanwhile back on Planet Earth… :unamused:

Just watching a documentary series ‘‘Once upon a time in Northern Ireland’’…worth watching.

It illustrates the absolute futility of people who feel the need to have a religion, and the ultimate dark results of religious fanaticism.

It shows the black side of people like our Mr Sploom who consider religion a normal standard way of life, and who credit so much importance to what they consider a reality, when the actual reality is an unproven figment and fantasy to those with a strong sense of rationality (or is it rationalism? :smiley: )

Not only that, but as everybody knows, it’s the story of two groups who follow not a different, but the SAME religion, at a time where murders were just a way of life that they accepted.
Murders of innocent people just because they were Catholic/Protestant, including mothers taken from their homes in front of their kids and never seen again.

If there was ever to be a war situation between people who thought that Santa, Fairies or Leprchauns were actually a reality, and in modern times where people are considered educated , it would be deemed totally madcap ridiculous, so what was the difference exactly?

Religion does far more harm than any good it does, and this documentary strongly illustrates that.

I will never understand why people feel the need to follow any religion, apart from a comfort for their fear of death which I take to be the absolute main reason.

Anyhoo…watch the documentary series on I player BBC2. :bulb:

Love the fact that School Libraries in heavily Christian states of the USA have banned the Bible for ‘vulgarity, violence, ■■■■■■■■■■■, etc’.

whisperingsmith:
Love the fact that School Libraries in heavily Christian states of the USA have banned the Bible for ‘vulgarity, violence, ■■■■■■■■■■■, etc’.

Nothing wrong with the Bible, there are some good stories in there, and some good messages.
I used to love listening to Bible stories as a kid.
The problem arises when people take it literal, and actually live their entire lives around it with all the problems, restrictions down right ‘‘up tightedness’’ and fears and conflicts of interest in life that brings.
One of the problems is, it was written in ancient times and more relevant to those times than modern times.

As I’ve said before, if you wanted to know how to bake bread,.you would not be sat in your modern state of the art kitchen following a recipe book written over 2000 years ago telling you to bury it in hot clay or whatever.

whisperingsmith:
Love the fact that School Libraries in heavily Christian states of the USA have banned the Bible for ‘vulgarity, violence, ■■■■■■■■■■■, etc’.

That’s the kind of stuff you expect of “Terminally Woke Blue States” - other than Florida, which up until recently - was a blue state, don’t forget.

The battle between “Urban Liberalism” and “Rural Faithful” - has already begun.

The blues - can’t live without the Reds, but the Reds could easily break away from the Blues and leave the blue coastal states in dire need of foreign aid - just to buy food from what would by then be “Breakaway states” that hold all the cards for goods and services alike.

It is Organized Religion - that causes all the trouble, just as it is Organized Crime that causes all the trouble in Politics.

Sploom:

the maoster:

Star down under.:
While we’re in an enquiring mood, I have a couple of questions for you, Sploom.

  1. When Noah went boating, was it on salt or fresh water?

  2. Australia has over a million uniquely indigenous species, how did they all fit on the ark and why didn’t a single one rate a mention?

Not forgetting that we are expected to believe that a polar penguin (or two) walked from the Arctic to the Middle East to board a boat.

Its nothing compared to what we are expected to believe about how life began
How all these chemicals could come together and create life.How the cell somehow created a membrane around itself,to contain all the complex ingredients to sustain life and also,not only that,but reproduce…,thats infinitly more unbelievable than a few oengiuns finding their way a few thousand miles

Even scientists themselves have been converted to the idea of creation and a creator not evolution by the coding contained within DNA which can’t possibly be based on a random lottery.The Bible makes sense in that regard when taken as intended mostly a parable not a literal account.

Sploom:
But how can something obeying the laws of physics have free will?
Random,yes,but even throwing a dice isnt completley random then.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
and, an entire mathematical website devoted to true randomness
random.org/dice/

Zac_A:

Sploom:
But how can something obeying the laws of physics have free will?
Random,yes,but even throwing a dice isnt completley random then.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
and, an entire mathematical website devoted to true randomness
random.org/dice/

A quark was driving down the road. A cop stops him.
“Hey, do you know what speed you were doing?”
“Oh, no! Now I`m gonna get lost”

Robroy.
A Christian is bound by the ten commandements,one of them being,thou shall not kill.So if you are going around killing people,you cant be a Christian.Even if you do these attrocities under the banner of Christianity.
So,its unfair to blame us for the actions of others.Would you like it if someone blamed you for a crime that you didnt do?
We had this conversation before.

Sploom:
Robroy.
A Christian is bound by the ten commandements,one of them being,thou shall not kill.So if you are going around killing people,you cant be a Christian.

The Crusades?

Suez?

WW1 and 2?

Iraq?

Afghanistan?

Please enlighten us.

None of these wars were commited by true Christians,only people going under the banner of Christianity.

youtu.be/66wASNzJUtM
Just been watching this program about football hooligans wanting to kill each other.It shows the dark side of people like robroy that attend football matches.
Its an eyeopener!

Sploom:
None of these wars were commited by true Christians,only people going under the banner of Christianity.u

The Crusades… really, not commited by Christian’s??

And therein lies part of the problem, you lot can’t even agree on whose version of the story to adhere too. Religion IS the root of most evil. The atrocities perpetuated in name of one religion, or sect thereof, or another, is mindblowing.

I like how you simply denounce the millions of fellow christians, for not following the exact same narrow interpretation that you do. But that is common in all sects…

Sploom:
https://youtu.be/66wASNzJUtM
Just been watching this program about football hooligans wanting to kill each other.It shows the dark side of people like robroy that attend football matches.
Its an eyeopener!

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

That is too lazy. I’ll leave Rob to play this one.

Sploom:
https://youtu.be/66wASNzJUtM
Just been watching this program about football hooligans wanting to kill each other.It shows the dark side of people like robroy that attend football matches.
Its an eyeopener!

:laughing: :laughing:
Sure is God boy. :laughing:

> Sploom:
> None of these wars were commited by true Christians,only people going under the banner of Christianity.

My parents were ‘True Christians’ they taught me that other supposed Christians - who were not Baptists - were not true Christians.

What type of ‘True Christian’ are you Sploom ■■

Me,I was saved through American churches.So,Southern Baptist or Evangelical.
I listen a lot to John Macarthur podcasts

You might as well argue that if you don’t die aged exactly 70 - “you’re not a true human”.

Should healthy people pay more tax?
Should Obese and other sub-healthy people get less benefits?

Governments have conspired over the centuries to keep the public divided against each other, over usually what would be “unimportant issues”.
The more common scenario though is that any particular government - continues to want to rule with impunity, will steal from, murder, and lie to the public during this period - and then get whomever is opposite the incumbents politically blamed for all that only the 1% of elite ruling class have either permitted, or directly carried out…

Why is it not possible for example, for say China or Russia to “freeze Sunak’s Assets all around the world”?
…Just as it isn’t actually possible for our own government to do the exact opposite…
“Because it is NOT possible to arbitrarily do such stuff, of course!”

Weak governments - big-up their perceived “powers” - just another lie, we’re all expected to swallow, and then later, when the money has all run out here at home - everyone thinks that it somehow isn’t the incumbents that threw it all away, stole it, mis-appropriated it, or simply gambled it away on the markets…

We only care that we are now skint, we have had everything taken away from us, and we are still being told that "If you object, we’ll send out SO19 after you for being an “Insurrectionist” and if you try to sit down and find a grass-roots way out? - “We don’t do deals with Terrorists”.

FFS don’t the British, and other Western Publics understand that this “totalitarian rollout” - affects ALL of us 99% - of which both Left, Right, and Center voters are all a part?

Let’s hear from the Left what exactly they don’t like about the Right or Liberal voting block
…what the Right don’t like about the Liberal and Left voting block…

and we’re already seeing every damned day - what the Liberals think of both the Left AND Right voting blocks.
The Liberals - hold a small block of seats, and have been the “Tail wagging the dog” for years in politics.
Green Rollouts? Wokeism? - Both LIBERAL things.
And yet we continue to see the Left and Right blaming each other for all our woes…

“Religion” doesn’t actually play any part of this, but if it can be made a scapegoat? - Then hey - there’s another barb to stick into the Right.
Notice how the Left are being blamed for “Wokeness” which has now led to “Trantifa” a group of psychologically damaged indivuduals who think they’ve got a right to go around murdering the rest of us with impunity, starting with our innocents - our kids.

I suspect a huge cover-up operation is going on in Nottingham as we speak, along those lines…

Wouldn’t the public be rather upset if these “masked men” were in fact not men (nor Women!) at all?

Oh well. In the past, the Left often liked to accuse the Right of “Islamophobia” - connecting “Terrorism” with “Islam” and all.
Then we had the Right accusing the Left of being associated with “Freedom fighter” class of “Terrorists”, such as Sinn Fein, now strangely legitimized rather than “interred on sight” like we saw 30 years back…

All the while the ruling classes can pit us against each other, rather than the Left and Right unite against the Ruling classes - our woes as a country, as a “place to be” rather than “place to emigrate from” - can only get much worse.

Sploom:
Me,I was saved through American churches.So,Southern Baptist or Evangelical.
I listen a lot to John Macarthur podcasts

Sploom:
Me,I was saved through American churches.So,Southern Baptist or Evangelical.
I listen a lot to John Macarthur podcasts

(Just Informed News - Christian Anchor)

Try something that doesn’t have a section of the 99% blaming another section of the 99%…

Our so-called “Elected” governments - are doing nothing but rule us with the same impunity of the kings of 1000 years ago.

Higher taxes to pay for foreign wars and projects that no one voted for.
“You don’t vote for Kings!”
No major policy implementations that we actually voted for.
We voted for Brexit NOT for “Green”.
No way of removing any safe-seat incumbent from office mid-term, other than lying about them, and pressuring them to resign.
No way of punishing any incumbent for crimes actually committed in our name.
No way of enforcing Religious Morality over “Wokeism” which is nothing more than an Atheist code.

There would be no such thing as a “True Christian Trantifa” member for example. Not because there’s no such thing as a “True Christian”, but rather because the two types of homo sapien there - are as alike as a Monkey and a Banana: “Sharing a majority of their DNA” - but that’s about it! :open_mouth:

THIS is what we’re up against in the world.
FFS why can’t the Left stop attacking the Right, and instead wake up to THIS that is going on in plain sight as POLICY now?

How do you react - if someone rushes upto your kid in the street, and injects them with what they say is a “Puberty Blocker”?

Do you:-

(1) Punch them in the face to stop them (Right wing answer)
(2) Ask them nicely to stop, and if they refuse “call the police” who’ll then warn you off, or threaten you with arrest (Liberal Answer)
or
(3) Wake UP that these maniacs are doing this in YOUR NAME (Left Answer)

“Civil Disobedience” is supposed to be the way of “Peaceful Protest” these days.

Well, how about withdrawing your kids from schools that teach Wokeness, crossing the street to avoid gangs of dodgy looking people going around bullying the public, and voting differently from any of the incumbent parties at Westminster, that’ll only ensure all this claptrap continues?

Winseer:
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