A religion question for Robroy,but will he give me a straigh

Robroy.
Ok ,I get a bit carried away sometimes on this subject.
But,now that you have the labels you want to pin on me(disabled/homosexuals),I wonder what will be next!

Robroy,I already had a bollocking off the moderators for addressing a thread with your nane on it,but when the maoster did it,nothing was said

Whatever.

Signed Robroy.

Here ,I put your reply on,to save you wasting your breath…

> Sploom:
> No,it was an immaculate conception,so it didnt work out like that.Reading between the lines,it sounds like you believe God exists but you hate him…

Immaculate conception or not Sploom it’s still adultery, are you saying rules don’t apply to God, the same as Boris Johnson, Donald Trump etc…

Immaculate conception would not stand up in court, in fact, a good lawyer could argue God was/is a ■■■■■■.

Immaculate conception is a Catholic concept, and you say Catholics are not proper Christians, this is where you lot fall down: you pick and choose what suits your agenda and deny that which doesn’t fit. That’s why you are consistently found out & rubbished for your delusions

You cant bring God to court!
God owns everything! Even your next breath of air,you dont own that ,it is His.
Nothing happens in the universe unless God permits it

I thought you had decided to depart through the stress it was causing.seems you dont know what you want at all.Has it not sunk in that your drivel and fantasies are convincing no one.Maybe you should let the Elders see your posts & ask what they think.

Sploom:
Whatever.

Signed Robroy.

Here ,I put your reply on,to save you wasting your breath…

Whatever.
:laughing:

> Sploom:
> You cant bring God to court

Yes you can but the ZB is even more duplicitous than Donald trump

The main reason why is:- the defendant (God) couldn’t/can’t be properly served, “because of his unlisted home address"

He has been taken to court many times, just that no-one has ever been able to find him or even prove he actually exists.

Billy Connelly tried that in the film '‘The man who sued God’'Hilarious,showed how ludicrous it all is.

Ok,I tried to help,but now I’m done.

Sploom:
Ok,I tried to help,but now I’m done.

What again??
That’s twice in one day.
How have you tried to HELP exactly, only thing you have helped in is explaining what we all already knew about your cult.

Sploom:
Robroy,I already had a bollocking off the moderators for addressing a thread with your nane on it,but when the maoster did it,nothing was said

Firstly I’m not a lunatic, so there’s a difference there.

Secondly, mine was a lighthearted mickey take, yours was rooted in mischief, simple as that.

robroy:

Sploom:
Ok,I tried to help,but now I’m done.

What again??
That’s twice in one day.

At least his boss had the decency to wait a few days before popping back up.

> Sploom:
> Ok,I tried to help,but now I’m done.

WE can all tell you don’t get it, but we are all trying to help you, obviously on a drivers board we will take the p1ss, but we are all trying to help you.

Whatever it was that lead you down the twisted path of Fundamentalist Christianity you haven’t said, but we are doing our best to save you and your family from it.

And whilst your Cult bosses tell you “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.”

That’s them keeping you onside and afraid to see reality as it is.

Us lot on the other hand don’t really give much of a fork, but reading through all of the posts here, everyone has been really kind to you and tried to help you See The Light & Be Saved from those who seek to enslave & fork your life & your family’s for their own benefit, not for any imaginary Godconstruct they try and con you with.

Whisperingsmith we arent on the same page,but your heart is in the right place,you have made efforts to avoid offending me so I have to grant youthat

I was where you are when I was a child Sploom.

By the age of 11, I knew most of the New Testament off by heart apart from Revelations, plus a good chunk of the Old Testament too.

We were also taught how to recruit people like you, how to fend off people like Robroy who tried to help us see sense.
How it was good to be challenged about our faith & how it made us stronger & better in the eyes of God.
Plus all sorts of other old Bollox.

At the same time, I was getting a Grammar School education, so I was no longer so easily fooled by the likes of Billy Graham and other redneck US preachers.

By the age of 16 I had realised that most religion, and in particular the Baptist fundamentalist version was a crutch for sad & lost people living sad unfulfilled lives.

So of course I have tried not to offend you, but at the same time I have tried to rescue you. I was lucky I escaped at the age of 16.
You unfortunately appear to have been ensnared as a sort of Adult, so It’s much harder for you to accept you have been conned!!

Putting a neutral hat on for a minute, imagine for a mo the following bits of logic:

You cannot believe in one without the other.

Either you believe both God and the Devil as Reality in the Universe,
or
you believe that the Universe created itself out of nothingness, there is no good nor evil, only the consequences of chance encounters between unrelated things.

If you truly believed in the second option, then there is no point whatsoever being Good nor Evil about anything at all - as the purpose of either would be for naught, surely?
So why do Lefties think they have to “help others they’ll never meet” compared to Religious people who try their best to help those around them, strangers or not?
Why do Lefties believe that the Ends justifies the Means always, “The Justifyable Cause” but Right-wing folk - believe a lesser Evil is worth deliberately committing to evade a greater one? “The Greater Good Argument”.

Religious folk, on the other hand believe:

No ends justifies the Means
You don’t sup with the Devil with ANY spoon, lest you be damned - let alone a “Long Spoon” thinking you can somehow find your way out of being trapped later, which is an error that everyone in the world who’s ever started a WAR has made, except those who win them quickly by being “Great” about it, rather than “Brutal”.

Now look at “Greatness” and “Brutality” too…
The Left don’t believe in “Greatness” as such. Brutality though? - “The ends justify the means”…
It is worth any nasty death possible - to kill a Hitler for instance…

The Right - shy away from Greatness the moment they lie to attempt to salve their troubled consciencness…

Imagine someone like Churchill declaring after losing the 1945 election “I’ll now hand myself over to a trial for the unneccesary terror-bombings of German cities that I authorized out of personal hatred for the German people”…

Doesn’t ever happen - does it?

Only those of FAITH can work the fine line between Good and Evil which, deep down we ALL believe in as a pair of concepts, religous - or not.

I’ve never heard a Pulpit sermon about:

The just cause
(It is OK to support “Foreign Nazis” in the name of the “People” though…) Liberal Left claptrap that sounds like, and likely is, of course…)

The Book of Revelation
Which starts off with a lot of slagging-off of newly-created Churches around the Mediterranean world, not straight to the “Prophecies” as is more popular belief…

…But I’ve heard never-ending sermons about “Alturism”, despite this being nothing to do with Faith.

Now, if you were the Devil - what strategy would you roll out among those who don’t know the difference between Good and Evil?

(1) You’d make people who believe believe in the wrong thing entirely
(2) You’d make people doubt, and ideally outright disbelieve the raw Truth.
(3) You’d clandestinely commit Evil in plain sight, but mask it as “Research” or “Confiscation” or even “Trying to understand”.
(4) And (The important one of our time) You’d try and make people believe the most outrageous LIES - by re-writing history in real-time.

If we’re not careful, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Biden, Zelensky, and other prominent leaders both living and dead - will be painted as HEROES for bringing down… Who? - The premier leaders of the Right over the years.

We’ve not had a Jihad of our own… Forget the Crusades. The Templars were as much compromised as the Inquisition in the end.

Tell us what an “Infidel” is again, someone?

The Right wing arguments here are:
Punish Evil wherever you find it. No ifs, No Buts - Catch someone red-handed ■■■■■■ and killing someone? - Sumarily execute them. You are there to make a difference. Don’t bother with Trials if you are 100% sure yourself and in a position to act for Justice.

Forgive the mis-lead as much as possible, even when they persecute you for doing “What is Right” rather than doing what you think is Right.
No way Blair should be able to kill over 100,000 Iraqi civilians with his Lies and Spin - without going on a serious penance for the rest of his natural life, like John Profumo did after the “Scandal” broke…

The difference betwee the two:
Profumo - a Right Wing Tory who’s penance was “Altrusim” for the rest of his life, even when confined to a wheelchair himself…
Blair? - A Yellow rather than “Blue” Labour politician, pretending to be Right enough to get the votes of those ■■■■■■ off with the Tories, rather than appealing to Yellow Conservatives like myself for our vote, which would have required a rather different set of priorities once Blair got into power, and was still on his Honeymoon period upto the 9/11 event…

That Blair apparently converts to Catholicism of all things - means nothing, without the penance that this particular faith demands of people that reckon they are renouncing “past sins”…

Blair - needed to give up all his wealth he’d made as a reward for running the Deep State ticket over world affairs, including the initiation of the Green politik we have today, despite there being no MPs running on that ticket by this point, unlike UKIP or Reform party that have MANY standing on such a ticket, only to be knocked back at any and every attempt to get into Parliament… The difference? - “People of Faith” - are simply no longer permitted in our politics.

We’ve been too secular for too long now, and judgement will always be harshest on those who have literally had all day to check out evidence for themselves, rather than take someone else’s word for everything they see and hear.

“Deferrential Society” is all we are in the West these days…

There wouldn’t be any need to persecute Conspiracy Theorists - IF what such folk believe were NOT a matter of “Faith” - would there?

Who really has any authority these days?

“Anyone who can kill with impunity - without being killed themselves” - commands true Authority.
NOT someone merely having a “mass following” such as a “Cult” would seem to be…

All such leaders of History - either perished early from natural causes, or perished at the hands of those whom they once commanded.

People are fickel. Make someone worse off, and they’ll lose faith in that “leader” even if one thought one had no soul or faith to lose:bulb:

Sunak seems to be attempting to switch people from Tory to Labour voting intent at the next election.
I’d suggest that a better result would be to wipe the Tories out, and replace every seat they currently hold - with Independents, Nationalists, and Reformer people NOT those who have been bought body and soul by the deep state long ago as the “Only runners in the race” all the time.

Meanwhile, who’s going to support Sunak as PM, bearing in mind he has no mandate of his own…?

Sunak - is for the 1%
It is for the people to show a little FAITH and vote against this guy, even if it means risking a Labour/Libdem win as a consequence.
…You’re expected to vote for one of these other two in the first place, after all…
You can have Center Sunak, Center-Left Starmer, or Left of Center Libdem…

FFS they are all the bloody same!

How about a new concept in Leadership? - Lie to the Deep State backers, and actually support and act in favour of the PEOPLE rather than big money backers behind the scenes…

As a Believer, I reckon the Deep State agenda is satanic in nature:
Get people to worship the faux deity Gaia and Europa in particlar, the “Names of Blasphemy” spoken of in Revelation.

“Carbon” - the beast within all animal life on Earth, including Humanity - is literally a dead-end future for all life on this planet, ongoingly.
Best get away from this new age religion, and call upon the Atheist crowd to show as much animosity towards it as they do to the real faiths on this planet.

In the news today “Liquid Cremation”…
Forget the fact that using Lye to dissolve people’s flesh - is what the ■■■■ Death camps used to do with their victim’s bodies…

There’s something fundamentally creepy about consuming flesh - in any shape, or form - but to do it in a way that may possibly contaminate the Food Chain in years to come?
…Steer clear, folks - you have been warned!

Here’s a few fake news articles put out by those “Narrative Creators” we get pressed to only listen to above everyone else…

WHO - “Dead Bodies are not dangerous to Life”

ICRC - “Dead bodies - do not originate or habour diseases and epidemics”

Again, if you believe the above stuff put out by Official News Releases - then you are asking for a nasty surprise, if a natural disaster ever happens anywhere near you…

People usually catch diseases like Cholera, Typhus, and even Plague - because they don’t believe they are exposed to it, and even if they were - they are careful enough to be immune, 'cos the official world organizations told us so… Right?

We should have all doubted Covid and this mickey-mouse “Vaccine” - the moment Big Pharama were afore-absolved of any wrong doing, and placed above and beyond prosecution for deliberately causing harm to humanity by the world’s judicial bodies

Again, “Faith” is called for: Do you believe the glaringly obvious - or do you just stick two fingers in your ears and go on “La La La” until you suddenly croaked from a disease you didn’t even think was possible in this country?

It is my personal belief that if you think you’re going to be dead later this century, you NEED a bit of Faith in your life, especially right now

Whisperingsmith
I read your post.Thank you but I dont want to be rescued from it.It sounds like you had religion forced on you like I did growing up as a catholic.

Winseer.I read all your long post.I wasnt able to keep track of everything but I agree,I wish Blair had never came to power.I remember listening to George Galloway on talk sport and someone rang in demanding blair be sent to trial(was it nuremberg) for war crimes but Galloway said those places are only for people who lost wars!

Sploom:
Ok,so what!
God gave us the gift of ■■■ to enjoy between a man and woman in marriage.
What could be better?

Yes, definitely a wind up merchant.