7 minutes over driving hours

One boss I worked for reckoned that the Driving Hours Regulations were never intended to be anything more than “guidelines”.
He remained convinced of this until he was called in front of the local Traffic Comissioner. The upshot was that three drivers and their boss were immediately looking for further employment!
Happy days!

I know someone who stopped on the Hard Shoulder of a Motorway to be ill, a few moments later a pig pulled up behind him, short version is, the pig checked his Digicard and he was fined £180 on the spot, £60 for a WTD infringement and £120 for driving 7 minuets over a 9. He had no 10s left.
This was the Police, so it’s not just VOStApo you have to be wary of.

never write on tacho as vosa once told me that by doing so you are admitting the said infringment so do not write on tachos

Yorkysays:-:
I know someone who stopped on the Hard Shoulder of a Motorway to be ill, a few moments later a pig pulled up behind him, short version is, the pig checked his Digicard and he was fined £180 on the spot, £60 for a WTD infringement and £120 for driving 7 minuets over a 9. He had no 10s left.
This was the Police, so it’s not just VOStApo you have to be wary of.

He musnt have passed the attitude test then. Get pulled by the police/vosa and your fate is in their hands, they have discretion… if your rude, narky and/or arguementative then they will use the letter of the law to screw you. If your polite and cooperative on the other hand and bite your lip even if you disagree with them you will never get more than a warning for minor things.

Only been stopped once by VOSA.

He checked the pin and the no plate and apologised for delaying me and waved me on my way!

I was cheerful and polite. Enquired after his health and asked him if they were having a good day. He was the same…

He didn’t even ask to see my tachos or card… :smiley: Happy days.

rob22888:

Yorkysays:-:
I know someone who stopped on the Hard Shoulder of a Motorway to be ill, a few moments later a pig pulled up behind him, short version is, the pig checked his Digicard and he was fined £180 on the spot, £60 for a WTD infringement and £120 for driving 7 minuets over a 9. He had no 10s left.
This was the Police, so it’s not just VOStApo you have to be wary of.

He musnt have passed the attitude test then. Get pulled by the police/vosa and your fate is in their hands, they have discretion… if your rude, narky and/or arguementative then they will use the letter of the law to screw you. If your polite and cooperative on the other hand and bite your lip even if you disagree with them you will never get more than a warning for minor things.

That’s what I said to him, not sure what he said but if you’d just been sick, you’d think the pig would be a bit less of a ■■■■■

Harry Monk:
I have never, ever had a problem with VOSA. I have probably been inspected about twelve or fifteen times over the years, they have always found some minor fault with my cards or the vehicle but I’ve never been prosecuted by them.

The very first thing that VOSA do when they stop you is apply the “attitude test”. If you pass that then they don’t normally keep you more than 10 or 15 minutes.


What it is Attitude test if stop VOSA.■■

Andrejs:
What it is Attitude test if stop VOSA.■■

That is where one driver complains and is hostile/unhelpful towards them and another driver realises they have a job to do and its just one of those things so is helpful, calm and polite

Like most humans, VOSA folk will react in different ways depending on how another treats them

Yorkysays:-:

rob22888:

Yorkysays:-:
I know someone who stopped on the Hard Shoulder of a Motorway to be ill, a few moments later a pig pulled up behind him, short version is, the pig checked his Digicard and he was fined £180 on the spot, £60 for a WTD infringement and £120 for driving 7 minuets over a 9. He had no 10s left.
This was the Police, so it’s not just VOStApo you have to be wary of.

He musnt have passed the attitude test then. Get pulled by the police/vosa and your fate is in their hands, they have discretion… if your rude, narky and/or arguementative then they will use the letter of the law to screw you. If your polite and cooperative on the other hand and bite your lip even if you disagree with them you will never get more than a warning for minor things.

That’s what I said to him, not sure what he said but if you’d just been sick, you’d think the pig would be a bit less of a [zb].

Why is the copper a [zb]■■? he just said the driver has had his two 10 hours and is 7 mins over 9 and is sitting on the motorway … the driver should of pulled off at services or slip road yeah sometimes you will go over hours stuck behind a crash etc etc but that seems he was chancing it!

discoman:

Yorkysays:-:

rob22888:

Yorkysays:-:
I know someone who stopped on the Hard Shoulder of a Motorway to be ill, a few moments later a pig pulled up behind him, short version is, the pig checked his Digicard and he was fined £180 on the spot, £60 for a WTD infringement and £120 for driving 7 minuets over a 9. He had no 10s left.
This was the Police, so it’s not just VOStApo you have to be wary of.

He musnt have passed the attitude test then. Get pulled by the police/vosa and your fate is in their hands, they have discretion… if your rude, narky and/or arguementative then they will use the letter of the law to screw you. If your polite and cooperative on the other hand and bite your lip even if you disagree with them you will never get more than a warning for minor things.

That’s what I said to him, not sure what he said but if you’d just been sick, you’d think the pig would be a bit less of a [zb].

Why is the copper a [zb]■■? he just said the driver has had his two 10 hours and is 7 mins over 9 and is sitting on the motorway … the driver should of pulled off at services or slip road yeah sometimes you will go over hours stuck behind a crash etc etc but that seems he was chancing it!

Soz, should have said, this happened recently but the infringements were from August.
This chap had pulled up on the hard shoulder to be physically sick.
Life’s hard enough without some gastapo pig hitting you with £180 fine, he could have given him a bit of leeway considering he’d pulled up for a genuine reason, unlike loads of these foreign ■■■■■ on the M25 that pull up under the bridges for a break.

I got stopped last year, the day after going over 4:30 by 12 minutes.
Politely explained my reason and was sent on my way.

If it is an early digi tacho I have been led to believe vosa make allowance because the drive time recorded is inacurate.

Yorkysays:-:
Life’s hard enough without some gastapo pig hitting you with £180 fine, .

I take it you and the boys in blue dont get along ? :laughing:

kr79:
I’ve found they have been ok if its a few minutes once in a blue moon always very dubious when someone tells me they got nicked for been 1 minute over.
Of course if you happen to drive overseas loose your card and rip the tacho out and install a new one as the kings of the overland route will tell you it will be a €20000 or 5 years in the Bastille for moving the lorry six inches.

You mean €20001 or 5 years… :stuck_out_tongue:

dualflags:
never write on tacho as vosa once told me that by doing so you are admitting the said infringment so do not write on tachos

Another silly tale from the RDC

matt3903:
I got stopped last year, the day after going over 4:30 by 12 minutes.
Politely explained my reason and was sent on my way.

Ummmm and you think that’s it? wait until/if you get ‘checked’ again. The next VOStApo may not be as lenient on that infringement, same infringement, different persons view on it.

chaversdad:

Yorkysays:-:
Life’s hard enough without some gastapo pig hitting you with £180 fine, .

I take it you and the boys in blue dont get along ? :laughing:

I’d like to know who Police’s the Police? You see everyday in the Media that another one’s been done for something or other, bent as ■■■■■ CBA with any of them.
This ain’t a thread on my views on the Police, so I’ll leave it there.

Yorkysays:-:

matt3903:
I got stopped last year, the day after going over 4:30 by 12 minutes.
Politely explained my reason and was sent on my way.

Ummmm and you think that’s it? wait until/if you get ‘checked’ again. The next VOStApo may not be as lenient on that infringement, same infringement, different persons view on it.

Well he did say it was last year, so even if they do check him again tomorrow there won’t be a lot they can do about it (that’s assuming it still shows on his card, which is unlikely 12 months down the line…)

Yorkysays:-:

matt3903:
I got stopped last year, the day after going over 4:30 by 12 minutes.
Politely explained my reason and was sent on my way.

Ummmm and you think that’s it? wait until/if you get ‘checked’ again. The next VOStApo may not be as lenient on that infringement, same infringement, different persons view on it.

I was actually stopped again later last year (and once earlier this year)
A couple of minor infringements of a minute or 2 mostly and nothing was said really.

3 different VOSA officers too…

My god, 7minutes! I hope you receive the force of the law for commiting such a crime.