Evening All!
A customer of mine is looking at buying a 55ft long trailer that contains a mobile stage that folds out into a 50x38ft stage.
I have the following questions:
The trailer is currently being used in Europe, so I presume it come under an exemption.
Any help would be great…
Cold Up North:
Evening All!A customer of mine is looking at buying a 55ft long trailer that contains a mobile stage that folds out into a 50x38ft stage.
I have the following questions:
- Does it come under STGO, and would I have to plate a unit as CAT 3?
- Will it be MOT exempt?
The trailer is currently being used in Europe, so I presume it come under an exemption.
Any help would be great…
Could you get it under Showman regs?
Not sure, but the tractor unit would be used for hire and reward most of the time, so not sure if it would be worth having a dedicated unit for a trailer that might move 10 times over the summer. Isn’t there a specific criteria for being a showman vehicle?
I’m no expert on this matter but I very much doubt that you would be in STGO territory as there seem to be plenty of hauliers out there hauling long bits of steel on extendable trailers that must be 55ft or longer and none of them have STGO plates on.
Paul
I thought that also, but the trailer doesn’t meet C&U regs, those extender trailers do meet the regs until they are stretched so then go under abnormal load regs for length/width.
Cold Up North:
I thought that also, but the trailer doesn’t meet C&U regs, those extender trailers do meet the regs until they are stretched so then go under abnormal load regs for length/width.
Aye, that’s a good point. I’ve no idea then.
Paul
Wheel Nut:
Cold Up North:
Evening All!A customer of mine is looking at buying a 55ft long trailer that contains a mobile stage that folds out into a 50x38ft stage.
I have the following questions:
- Does it come under STGO, and would I have to plate a unit as CAT 3?
- Will it be MOT exempt?
The trailer is currently being used in Europe, so I presume it come under an exemption.
Any help would be great…
Could you get it under Showman regs?
I have thought more about this as an exhibition trailer and wonder that as long as you can get it to turn within its maximum and minimum turning circles
This one does it easily.
engineering plant exemption?
kemperink:
engineering plant exemption?
Engineering plant refers to treating material or something similar, so I don’t think that would qualify.
There must be a way as I have found about 3 other mobile stages being operated in the uk.
Cold Up North:
kemperink:
engineering plant exemption?Engineering plant refers to treating material or something similar, so I don’t think that would qualify.
There must be a way as I have found about 3 other mobile stages being operated in the uk.
thats what Star Events use 
You might find it would come under STGO as it falls outside normal C&U regs.
However CAT 1,2&3 refer to different weight bands with from memory 1 being upto 50t, 2 being upto 85t and 3 being 150t.
As your stage is unlikely to weigh that much then the most you would probably need would be CAT1 and if you could prove that the gross weight is not above 44t would probably be a paperwork exercise only anyway. It would in effect just give you the exemption from C&U regs regarding length.
I seem to remember an old boy from Kent way used to run an old drop neck low loader doing a similar thing because although he never pulled much weight the trailer was actually a little long.
Cheers
Neilf
Thanks Neil,
I found a paragraph somewhere that says just that, not sure about movement orders though…
neilf:
You might find it would come under STGO as it falls outside normal C&U regs.However CAT 1,2&3 refer to different weight bands with from memory 1 being upto 50t, 2 being upto 85t and 3 being 150t.
As your stage is unlikely to weigh that much then the most you would probably need would be CAT1 and if you could prove that the gross weight is not above 44t would probably be a paperwork exercise only anyway. It would in effect just give you the exemption from C&U regs regarding length.
I seem to remember an old boy from Kent way used to run an old drop neck low loader doing a similar thing because although he never pulled much weight the trailer was actually a little long.
Cheers
Neilf
Low loaders do not come under the same length restrictions as General trailers though.
This is the second time I have used this link tonight. 
repton:
I’m no expert on this matter but I very much doubt that you would be in STGO territory as there seem to be plenty of hauliers out there hauling long bits of steel on extendable trailers that must be 55ft or longer and none of them have STGO plates on.Paul
Long bits of steel etc come under abnormal load regs, same as wider (Under 3.5m wide) does. Those are different to STGO regs though.
I only know what the regs used to be when I was doing that work and there has been a change to them in between then and now.
For longer bits of steel, up to 65 feet and definitely too long for a 45 footer, you didn’t need a movement order and you could use a fixed length trailer of up to 60 feet long. You had to be moving a load of unbreakable long stuff on one leg of your trip to be able to use that long trailer though.
I don’t think that rule has been affected by the updated reg’s.
Could you use that for a 55 foot long stage trailer? I don’t think so.
The best people to find out from, would be VOSA I would think. Either nip in to your local test centre or a better option, email VOSA. That way you’ll have your answer in writing.