A lot of truck drivers seem to own 4x4’s. I run a L200 which technically is a commercial vehicle with a GVW between 2000 & 7500kg. So therefore the speed limit on duals is 60 & s/c’s is 50. So be carefull of the camera vans !
I think you need to look again at your VIN plate as I do not think the MAM or GTW will be 7.500 ton.
Not all 4x4’s (even the big ones) are commercial vehicles.
The most any of them can tow is 3500kg which means to get over 7.5t the vehicle would have to be over 4000kg!
Speed limits are lower for towing vehicles anyway including cars and caravans.
Ah now i know about this one, if you search carefully it is all on the Gov motoring website.
Ready, here is a simplified version.
Is your pick up a twin cab with 4 wheel drive, if so it is a dual purpose vehicle and benefits from the same upper speed limits as cars.
If the pick up is a single cab OR a twin cab without 4 wheel drive (probably as rare as hens teeth), it is a commercial vehicle and comes under van limits…which seem to not apply to any white vans… 
I doubt if the speed camera lads can differentiate between the sorts but always the possibility that the database might know which is which.
If you read the regulations there are some silly references to the size of rear windows etc to classify as dual purpose, but generally if you have a Hilux, L200, Ranger etc and its a twin cab with optional 4WD then you are safe to travel at car limits…edit…extra cab owners might need to read the regulations carefully and do some rear passenger compartment measurements.
I printed off and kept the regulations in my twin cabber, in practice never needed to argue the point.
triple-tango:
A lot of truck drivers seem to own 4x4’s. I run a L200 which technically is a commercial vehicle with a GVW between 2000 & 7500kg. So therefore the speed limit on duals is 60 & s/c’s is 50. So be carefull of the camera vans !
If it’s a double cab it counts as a “dual purpose vehicle” and so the normal car limits apply.
My Land Rover 110 is a bit more of a grey area though. It is a pickup body with an Ifor Williams aluminium top on the back, has 2 seats in the cab and a sideways on bench seat in the back that will seat 4. No idea what that counts as but as I rarely go more than 50mph in it anyway (as I rarely go more than a few miles from home and I live in the middle of nowhere) it doesn’t really matter.
Paul
fta.co.uk/policy_and_complia … imits.html
speed limits from FTA
repton:
triple-tango:
A lot of truck drivers seem to own 4x4’s. I run a L200 which technically is a commercial vehicle with a GVW between 2000 & 7500kg. So therefore the speed limit on duals is 60 & s/c’s is 50. So be carefull of the camera vans !If it’s a double cab it counts as a “dual purpose vehicle” and so the normal car limits apply.
My Land Rover 110 is a bit more of a grey area though. It is a pickup body with an Ifor Williams aluminium top on the back, has 2 seats in the cab and a sideways on bench seat in the back that will seat 4. No idea what that counts as but as I rarely go more than 50mph in it anyway (as I rarely go more than a few miles from home and I live in the middle of nowhere) it doesn’t really matter.
Paul
Unless the law has changed in recent times, all Land Rovers are dual purpose vehicles, regardless of body type. I believe it was settled in a big court case years ago, back in the day when 4 x 4 s weren’t common and a Landrover was about the only thing you could get. Mind you if it’s like my 1950 80 inch LR, you might get into trouble in a 30 or 40 limit, not much danger of getting done for going faster! 
Bernard
Same with vans, our blokes have Postman Pat VX combo / combi vans not sure which but the newer of them they are lower speed limits than cars whereas our spare van is a Corsa van which is a 3 door corsa body shell with no rear windows or seats. It is a car derived van and classed as a car.
Hi all.Up here a hell of a lot of people have 4x4s as they are multi purpose.They are almost without exception diesel as most guys get deals on fuel from companies.Also the winters are rather long[we had the first moderate snow yesterday]
Also the majority of 4x4s[pick ups,vans and such]are classed as ‘‘light trucks’’.This means you get a reduced road tax as it is a commercial vehicle.
I have a Mitsubishi L200,classed as a truck and pay app £400 per year.This would be more than double if it were not classed as a truck.Speed limits are the same as a car.Mike
Hiya i had a diahatsu f50(short thing that bobed like mad) any how i left work
one dark night and noticed the bosses rover sd1 was right behind me so i sort of had a race with him.
the diahatsu would corner quite well and i was abit crazy, after a few miles we come into the lit
up 30 mph zone, i then relized the white with red stripe rover was,nt the black one of the boss,s.
so i just stopped and waited…the copper was brill, he let me of with driving at a constent 65 mph
round corners up hill and down dale and into 30 mph zone BUT he did let me know i was driving
a dual purpose vehicle and 50 mph was the limit. i mentioned the police range rovers going at speed,
smiling he said, don,t worry what we do.
John
albion1938:
Unless the law has changed in recent times, all Land Rovers are dual purpose vehicles, regardless of body type.
I had a Disco van and always viewed it as a commercial vehicle. I can’t see anything in the dual purpose vehicle rules to suggest otherwise.
Under construction and use regulations.Only vans without side windows in the back are restricted to 50mph on single carriageways.
With vans, if the max gross weight is over 2000 kg, the sc limt is 50 etc
I had a 04 Combo van, not long ago which, also said on the Reg Doc - Car derived Van.
8wheels:
Same with vans, our blokes have Postman Pat VX combo / combi vans not sure which but the newer of them they are lower speed limits than cars whereas our spare van is a Corsa van which is a 3 door corsa body shell with no rear windows or seats. It is a car derived van and classed as a car.
Combos were always classed car-derived so guess new ones must be over 2 ton gvw.
Dave the Renegade:
Under construction and use regulations.Only vans without side windows in the back are restricted to 50mph on single carriageways.
I’ve just tried to find that in the C&U regs and failed. Have you got a link to it?
My understanding was that all commercial vehicles over 2000kg MGW were limited to 50mph except “car derived vans”. Are you suggesting that if I get a 3500kg MGW XLWB sprinter and put some windows in the sides I can legally do 60mph instead of 50?
Paul
repton:
My understanding was that all commercial vehicles over 2000kg MGW were limited to 50mph except “car derived vans”.
AIUI it’s all commercial vehicles including car derived.
tourneos transits minibuses are classed as mpv and can go car speed limits also they are lez exempt.they found that out over on the transit forum
mrpj:
repton:
My understanding was that all commercial vehicles over 2000kg MGW were limited to 50mph except “car derived vans”.AIUI it’s all commercial vehicles including car derived.
This link:
direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTr … eed_limits
suggests we’re both wrong. All goods vehicles are subject to the 50mph limit except for car derived vans under 2000kg MGW.
Paul
Ok,
Excuse my ignorance but 4 pint cans later I am still a little confused by this…
we use a crew cab transit which i use for the band i play in… so whats regs is this particular vehicle meant to obide by? motorwa, SC and DC?
And just to clear my confusion a typical white van transit, sprinter etc what are the limits for these vans presuming there are all plated at 3500kg?
Cheers
Kev
miketdt:
I think you need to look again at your VIN plate as I do not think the MAM or GTW will be 7.500 ton.
I never said it was a 7 1/2 tonner ! I said its a "goods vehicle of between 2000 & 7500 kg.
Gotta dissagree with those that say car limits apply. It is taxed as “light goods vehicle” not “plg” so therefore its a goods vehicle with the appropiate speed limits, regardless of how many seats it has or the size of the rear window.
Also as such it cant be parked in a 30 limit without lights !