AlexWignall:
@Happysack, you’re right.I do jobs from Lancs to Kent and multi drops from West Wales to Dorset with hardly a hold up and I would be pushed to get over nine hours driving done each day.
In fact, I’ve only come close to my fortnightly limit once in five years with my current firm.
W
Sorry I was meaning that I am often up in the high 80’a on my fortnightly drive. Usually if I do a half day sat or sun then come Friday i’m very close to my limit! Therefore I don’t do many weekends!
@Happysack, my mistake I misunderstood what you meant.
I still have a fair point though. I just do General Haulage and normally take or complete my forty five minutes break after four hours fifteen minutes driving.
If I count loading, unloading and reasonable waiting time. I’ll be doing well to reach the end of my second four and a half hour driving stint before the end of my working day.
To that end I reckon I average out at about eight hours thirty driving each day when I do distance jobs and considerably less on local work.
I reckon you really need to be going pretty far (while doing little else but driving) to warrant four ten hour shifts in a row.
W
AlexWignall:
@Happysack, my mistake I misunderstood what you meant.I still have a fair point though. I just do General Haulage and normally take or complete my forty five minutes break after four hours fifteen minutes driving.
If I count loading, unloading and reasonable waiting time. I’ll be doing well to reach the end of my second four and a half hour driving stint before the end of my working day.
To that end I reckon I average out at about eight hours thirty driving each day when I do distance jobs and considerably less on local work.
I reckon you really need to be going pretty far (while doing little else but driving) to warrant four ten hour shifts in a row.
W
The thing you have to remember with using 4 ten’s in a row, it means they are not available for the following weekend 
Here we go with the ‘professional driver’ brigade. I think some of you are probably in desperate need of a good lay, but that is probably besides the point.
I have not referred to myself as a professional driver, anyone who I have met who has, has normally turned out to be a trumpet of the highest order, there are many in evidence here. So I now avoid the phrase like the plague, because frankly there is nothing professional about turning up for a weeks course in “driving a big thing”, and then acting like you are a time served engineer, or theoretical physicist.
I know what the rules say, I can (and have since) read them.
My point is this… (some of the slower ones amongst you might want to read it slowly if you are struggling to cope with the theory).
How is driving 10 hrs each day on Sat, Sun, Mon, Tue, any different from driving 10 hrs on Mon, Tue, Wed, Thurs? Apart from the fact that the former staggers some arbitrary (ARBITRARY - look it up) dividing line in the week and the latter doesn’t.
In terms of tiredness for the driver, they are identical, but one is legal and one isn’t.
That is why the law is a fool, and that is why I think it goes against the spirit of it.
Oh, and be careful with the quoting, as above I have been quoted with something I didn’t say.
Good night.
WildGoose:
:roll: Here we go with the ‘professional driver’ brigade. I think some of you are probably in desperate need of a good lay, but that is probably besides the point.I have not referred to myself as a professional driver, anyone who I have met who has, has normally turned out to be a trumpet of the highest order, there are many in evidence here. So I now avoid the phrase like the plague, because frankly there is nothing professional about turning up for a weeks course in “driving a big thing”, and then acting like you are a time served engineer, or theoretical physicist.
I know what the rules say, I can (and have since) read them.
My point is this… (some of the slower ones amongst you might want to read it slowly if you are struggling to cope with the theory).
How is driving 10 hrs each day on Sat, Sun, Mon, Tue, any different from driving 10 hrs on Mon, Tue, Wed, Thurs? Apart from the fact that the former staggers some arbitrary (ARBITRARY - look it up) dividing line in the week and the latter doesn’t.
In terms of tiredness for the driver, they are identical, but one is legal and one isn’t.
That is why the law is a fool, and that is why I think it goes against the spirit of it.
Oh, and be careful with the quoting, as above I have been quoted with something I didn’t say.
Good night.
No one is arguing against the fact that the law is an arse.
Bu the very second post of this thread was your own and you said that you could only drive 2 extended periods between weekly rest periods. I pointed out you were wrong in that assumption.
What you should have written was, yes you could. without the extra, what has daily rest got to do with it.
You say you have read GV262/03 and cannot find where it says it is legal, it doesn’t have to, it only has to tell you what you cannot do.
This is one of several examples from the VOSA guide book.
Everyone knows you can only drive 90 hours per fortnight and 56 hours in one week.
But look at the right hand side it allows you to drive 58 hours 
The difference being, the first part says 56 hours in one week. The last bit says 58 hours between two weekly rest periods.
No one here is trying to make you look an idiot, it is just that you must read every little piece of information, just like a lawyer would, just like a magistrates clerk would. I prefer to read the actual legislation, and read it. I do, regularly.
As an example, you will often see a sign that says “Keep off the Grass”, that may be inside a park where children are playing with a football on the grass.
We live in a very strange country, it could be worse, we could live in Kansas where there is a law preventing us from shooting rabbits from a motorboat. Or in New Jersey you cannot buy cabbage on a Sunday!
Sleep Tight
Nothing wrong with doing 4 x 10 hour drives on the trot. I started work last friday morning will get back to the yard this friday afternoon so 7 days work just under 4K miles covered drive for 11 hrs most days all perfectly legal over here lol as for doing it in the UK don’t see any reason why its should be done there no need for it unless of course you run from one end of the country to the other all week how ever in theroy 10 hrs drive sat, sun, mon, tues is legal I would say
At this point I’ll jump back in. Wheelnut thanks for the clear explanation.
I knew full well it was legal all along (Truckulent will confirm) but thought the topic would provide some entertainment. I wasn’t wrong
Agree that in normal uk operations it shouldn’t be necessary. On a long Euro run, say Southern Spain, isn’t going to be workable anyway due to the Sunday truck ban.
Any driver who did attempt it, I’m sure would be tired by the 3rd - 4th day of long drives and short rests - including LP!
WildGoose:
I have not referred to myself as a professional driver
you might be right there
Driveroneuk:
On a long Euro run, say Southern Spain, isn’t going to be workable anyway due to the Sunday truck ban.
cross into spain sat evening, run down to cadiz or thereabouts on sunday, unload and load monday, run back tuesday, 4 x 10 no problem
when the fortnightly 90h rule came into effect and nobody really cared about it yet, I regularly saw 110+ h on the screen, running back and forth oslo/stockholm to andalucia. thank god my owner-driver days are over 
