Normally i think you drive with a single 20’ container loaded in the middle but if for example you have two x 20’ foot containers on the trailer and they are been delivered to separate site locations.
Should it always be the rear container that’s delivered/removed first so that you can still drive to the second location with the front container on or the other way around? or does in not matter with regard to stability/safety/legality.
Norfolk in chance:
Hi
Have a question on 20’ container loading:
Normally i think you drive with a single 20’ container loaded in the middle but if for example you have two x 20’ foot containers on the trailer and they are been delivered to separate site locations.
Should it always be the rear container that’s delivered/removed first so that you can still drive to the second location with the front container on or the other way around? or does in not matter with regard to stability/safety/legality.
Thanks in advance and happy New Year
So long as you are not over-loading the tractor unit, then yes youre better off with more weight on the front than on the back, especially in the winter. I am assuming you are saying the boxes are staying on the trailer, not being removed? If the first place is cleared to remove box from trailer, can it not move the remaining box to the middle? Shipping lines are very fussy about that as they dont want boxes damaged by amateur handling.
AS Wildy says a lot depends upon weights and the unit/trailer you`re running.
Franglais, the EG was assuming a scenario where at the first location they took off for example the front box then i had to travel elsewhere. Was it ok to drive with just a 20’ box at the rear.
Noted about getting the site to reposition to the centre.
I assume it would in part be down to the company your working for getting the routing right?
Franglais, the EG was assuming a scenario where at the first location they took off for example the front box then i had to travel elsewhere. Was it ok to drive with just a 20’ box at the rear.
Noted about getting the site to reposition to the centre.
I assume it would in part be down to the company your working for getting the routing right?
Regards
A heavy box sat on the back of 40 trl, with nothing on the front may be legal as regards axle weights in the UK, but wont be giving grip on the drive. Depending on the exact situation and trl type, and whether or not the load inside the box is evenly loaded too, the rubbing plate could in an extreme be bouncing on the 5th wheel. Not safe at all IMHO. Especially in winter.
Franglais, the EG was assuming a scenario where at the first location they took off for example the front box then i had to travel elsewhere. Was it ok to drive with just a 20’ box at the rear.
Noted about getting the site to reposition to the centre.
I assume it would in part be down to the company your working for getting the routing right?
Regards
I did a…
Regular 2X20 job to an airfield in Leicestershire.
They would tip the back box first then I had to drive to a small haulage firm near Hinkley and they would lift the empty box off the back. The front box was then lifted, turned and put on the back pins and the empy box put back on the front pins. I’d then go back to the delivery and they’d tip the back box again.
If I had to travel with a loaded and an empty box, I’d have the loaded one on the front pins.
Franglais, the EG was assuming a scenario where at the first location they took off for example the front box then i had to travel elsewhere. Was it ok to drive with just a 20’ box at the rear.
Noted about getting the site to reposition to the centre.
I assume it would in part be down to the company your working for getting the routing right?
Regards
A heavy box sat on the back of 40 trl, with nothing on the front may be legal as regards axle weights in the UK, but wont be giving grip on the drive. Depending on the exact situation and trl type, and whether or not the load inside the box is evenly loaded too, the rubbing plate could in an extreme be bouncing on the 5th wheel. Not safe at all IMHO. Especially in winter.
I’d doubt if there’s many situations where two loaded 20ft boxes won’t put it over 44t gross.
Other than that no one would want to load anything tail heavy so the rear container would obviously be removed first.
While drawbars provide the best flexibility for multiple containers.This shows just how backward our transport industry is crippled by joke legislation.
Carryfast:
I’d doubt if there’s many situations where two loaded 20ft boxes won’t put it over 44t gross.
Oh!..
For crying out loud!
What is wrong with you?
Yeah cos them 2x20ft boxes full of personal effects (regularly loaded onto skellys) are mega heavy…
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No but a 20ft full of scrap metal is
Or 1t pallets or, or, or.
Personal effects bs.
The first example I posted is designed for 50t gross operation …because 20ft containers are known for being bleedin heavy in ‘most’ cases.Who would have thought it.
Boss, I’ll ship those two twenty footers full of tiles from China this morning, just put ‘em both on the same skelly for me please’.
I don’t remember ever having said that. I’m confident that other box jockey’s won’t have said it either.
I’m also confident that every pair of 20s on a skelly coming out of Felix, Southampton, Liverpool or Tilbury isn’t grossing out at 50 tons+.
I’m just as confident that more than 50% of all the 20ft boxes out of a total shipment have to go as single not a pair.Because a pair would put it over 44t gross or at least create the type of ‘isssues’ which the OP is asking about.
It’s equally obvious that having sorted that problem ( like the Dutch etc examples ) then it’s worth investing in decent drawbar kit to provide the required loading/tipping flexibility.
You know like both boxes able to be loaded/tipped in different locations while left on the trailer and prime mover respectively on a loading dock and no weight distribution issues if one of them has to be dropped.
But no it’s so much better to struggle on with our stupid gross weight and dimensions regime resulting in the wrong vehicle for the wrong job.
