Up until 2 weeks ago for the last I have been driving a 18t MAN tgm sleeper which was like an ocean liner when trying to do tight turns
The last 2 weeks I’ve been driving a MAN TGS 26t sleeper non rear steer dog axle it’s longer but turns a hell of a lot easier and tighter you’ve just got to remember about the tail swing
Why the difference ?
And no I don’t miss the 18t as it was old and knackered
The 6 by 2 probably has a shorter wheel base .
As you’ve pointed out yourself it’s probably a shorter wheelbase 6 wheeler with a longer overhang than the probably longer wheelbase 4 wheeler.Personally I’d prefer less over hang and more wheelbase whether it’s a 4 wheeler or a 6 wheeler.Not just because it’s easier to handle more cut in than silly amounts of overhang but also load distribution in which having the rear axle/s positioned too far forward makes it easier to over load the rear axle while removing weight from the steer axle.
Carryfast:
As you’ve pointed out yourself it’s probably a shorter wheelbase 6 wheeler with a longer overhang than the probably longer wheelbase 4 wheeler.Personally I’d prefer less over hang and more wheelbase whether it’s a 4 wheeler or a 6 wheeler.Not just because it’s easier to handle more cut in but also load distribution in which having the rear axle/s positioned too far forward makes it easier to over load the rear axle while removing weight from the steer axle.
Why would you need to worry about what you’d prefer, aren’t you a 106 year old alcoholic who drives an Austin Aleggro?
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I think the wheel bases are the same but 26t back is longer and where the dog axle is the tail lift is on 18t
Also I think the extra 120hp helps as the 18t was only 240 where as the 26t is a 360
the only down side is the 26t has the newer arsetronic box
Adonis.:
Carryfast:
As you’ve pointed out yourself it’s probably a shorter wheelbase 6 wheeler with a longer overhang than the probably longer wheelbase 4 wheeler.Personally I’d prefer less over hang and more wheelbase whether it’s a 4 wheeler or a 6 wheeler.Not just because it’s easier to handle more cut in but also load distribution in which having the rear axle/s positioned too far forward makes it easier to over load the rear axle while removing weight from the steer axle.Why would you need to worry about what you’d prefer, aren’t you a 106 year old alcoholic who drives an Austin Aleggro?
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blue estate:
I think the wheel bases are the same but 26t back is longer and where the dog axle is the tail lift is on 18tThe wheelbase on a 6 wheeler isn’t measured from the steer to rear axle.
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Carryfast:
blue estate:
I think the wheel bases are the same but 26t back is longer and where the dog axle is the tail lift is on 18tThe wheelbase on a 6 wheeler isn’t measured from the steer to rear axle.
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Always thought it was?
andy_s:
Carryfast:
blue estate:
I think the wheel bases are the same but 26t back is longer and where the dog axle is the tail lift is on 18tThe wheelbase on a 6 wheeler isn’t measured from the steer to rear axle.
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Always thought it was?
Yep then the 26t has a longer wheel base
blue estate:
andy_s:
Carryfast:
blue estate:
I think the wheel bases are the same but 26t back is longer and where the dog axle is the tail lift is on 18tThe wheelbase on a 6 wheeler isn’t measured from the steer to rear axle.
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Always thought it was?
Yep then the 26t has a longer wheel base
What would I know I only worked in a truck factory.
man-bodybuilder.co.uk/specs/ … 0Rigid.pdf
L1 here is the relevant measurement.
Let’s get this right.You’ve got a 6 wheeler with a smaller turning circle and more net rear over hang but you think it has a longer wheelbase.
Carry fast your partly right but I’ve got a TGS 26t not TGM but specs the same
r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9mSs3X5 … MiDqXg1YE-
blue estate:
Up until 2 weeks ago for the last I have been driving a 18t MAN tgm sleeper which was like an ocean liner when trying to do tight turns
The last 2 weeks I’ve been driving a MAN TGS 26t sleeper non rear steer dog axle it’s longer but turns a hell of a lot easier and tighter you’ve just got to remember about the tail swing
Why the difference ?
And no I don’t miss the 18t as it was old and knackered
I think you’ll find the TGS has a tighter turning circle due to the steering having more movement than the TGM. Put the two together and put them both on full lock and you’ll see what i mean…
AndrewG:
blue estate:
Up until 2 weeks ago for the last I have been driving a 18t MAN tgm sleeper which was like an ocean liner when trying to do tight turns
The last 2 weeks I’ve been driving a MAN TGS 26t sleeper non rear steer dog axle it’s longer but turns a hell of a lot easier and tighter you’ve just got to remember about the tail swing
Why the difference ?
And no I don’t miss the 18t as it was old and knackeredI think you’ll find the TGS has a tighter turning circle due to the steering having more movement than the TGM…
The TGS steering could be half seized and still have more movement than a TGM
blue estate:
Carry fast your partly right but I’ve got a TGS 26t not TGMbut specs the same
r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9mSs3X5 … MiDqXg1YE-
Whatever the spec the ‘wheelbase’ measurement ain’t ever steer to rear axle on a 6 wheeler.
AndrewG:
blue estate:
Up until 2 weeks ago for the last I have been driving a 18t MAN tgm sleeper which was like an ocean liner when trying to do tight turns
The last 2 weeks I’ve been driving a MAN TGS 26t sleeper non rear steer dog axle it’s longer but turns a hell of a lot easier and tighter you’ve just got to remember about the tail swing
Why the difference ?
And no I don’t miss the 18t as it was old and knackeredI think you’ll find the TGS has a tighter turning circle due to the steering having more movement than the TGM. Put the two together and put them both on full lock and you’ll see what i mean…
That might also make sense on the basis of forward planning for use as an LHV prime mover.
Our grab 6x4 is a TGM and that has a good lock, although I’m used to an 8x4. The 7 litre 290bhp engine isn’t quite so willing when climbing Bussage Hill though.