Is the 3 occasions you can do this over a fortnight or over a week. Bloke who gave us our CPC said you could do 3 every week, I thought it was 3 times over a fortnight but max 2 in a week i.e 2 one week 1 the next or vice versa.
3 times a week for a reduced rest/extended 15 hour work day and twice a week for the extended drive time (10 instead of 9).
3 times between 2 weekly rest periods. Either by going over 13 hrs or having less than 11 hours off, so don’t get confused
10 hr drives run from Monday morning to Sunday night (x2)
Reduced rests run between weekly rests. Always a bone of contention with old school drivers, who rarely ever agree with me on this one, then wonder why they get infringements and I don’t.
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PaulNowak:
10 hr drives run from Monday morning to Sunday night (x2)Reduced rests run between weekly rests. Always a bone of contention with old school drivers, who rarely ever agree with me on this one, then wonder why they get infringements and I don’t.
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You can do 4 10 hour drives between weekly rests 
Yes, you can (and will) do three 15 hour shifts a week. And two, sometimes three 13 hour shifts.
And they wonder why nobody wants to do the job.
Harry Monk:
Yes, you can (and will) do three 15 hour shifts a week. And two, sometimes three 13 hour shifts.And they wonder why nobody wants to do the job.
I think I’ll stick to my version of the rules.
Then we get into the territory of 3 hour rests and dodgy 3 hour rests to create another 15 hour shift.
The dodgy 3 hour is a box jockeys friend I.e. you’ve had to move but have a 1.4 post / late 2011 digi tacho that applies the longest mode period in that minute to the whole minute. So you can get away with a quick move or 10.
Be warned though under scrutiny these moves can be seen, you can even see them yourself on a v-diagram printout.
Yes I’ve recently done a course on advanced tachograph fiddling, not JAUPT approved apparently.
I’ve had 4 x 3 hour breaks this week. A box jockeys best friend
Tris:
Is the 3 occasions you can do this over a fortnight or over a week. Bloke who gave us our CPC said you could do 3 every week, I thought it was 3 times over a fortnight but max 2 in a week i.e 2 one week 1 the next or vice versa.
You can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods, so if you have a reduced weekly rest period mid week you could have 6 reduced daily rest periods in a week.
If you have split daily rest periods (3 hours rest during the shift) you could do 15 hour spread-overs every working day of the week.
tachograph:
Tris:
Is the 3 occasions you can do this over a fortnight or over a week. Bloke who gave us our CPC said you could do 3 every week, I thought it was 3 times over a fortnight but max 2 in a week i.e 2 one week 1 the next or vice versa.You can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods, so if you have a reduced weekly rest period mid week you could have 6 reduced daily rest periods in a week.
If you have split daily rest periods (3 hours rest during the shift) you could do 15 hour spread-overs every working day of the week.
FFS. I know the rules. You can do six days in a week, everyone with a 9 hours daily rest, have a 24 hour weekly rest and repeat the previous six days if you can use enough POA (the employers friend). But why■■? Unless you get paid every hour on shift, and at £20 or there abouts, why would you work (well, live…) like that, for some unscrupulous ■■■■ who sleeps at home and gets rich while you work yourself into a solitairy life and death?
Why?
OVLOV JAY:
I’ve had 4 x 3 hour breaks this week. A box jockeys best friend
I’ve had 2 proper 3 hours and 1 dodgy myself.
Even managed to be home before 8pm Friday after a quiet 73 hour week
I must be mad.
tachograph:
You can have 3 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods, so if you have a reduced weekly rest period mid week you could have 6 reduced daily rest periods in a week.
The 3 reduced daily rests are really designed to fit best with 4-on-(x)-off tramping schedules.
With the minimum of rest, you could do:
0700 Mon start, 2200 Mon RDR,
0700 Tue start, 2200 Tue RDR,
0700 Wed start, 2200 Wed RDR,
0700 Thu start, 2000 Thu RWR,
2000 Fri start, 1100 Sat RDR,
2000 Sat start, 1100 Sun RDR,
2000 Sun start, 1100 Mon RDR,
2000 Mon start…
But besides being truly horrific, only 5 of the RDRs technically fall within a 168-hour week (the six shifts and their associated rests fall within a 181-hour window, if I’ve done my sums correctly).
Also, this is not sustained the following week, when a NWR is required (which roughly brings the maximum rate of RDRs down to four in such weeks), and at some point compensatory weekly rest is required further reducing the number of RDRs available (bringing the rate down closer to three), and eventually with the WRs having to backslide on a less-than-7-day cycle, you also get two WRs falling within a single week (and I don’t want to tax my brain any further on this!).
I think the lesson would be that any shift pattern that is attempted to be planned on this basis would be extremely bad karma for everybody concerned.
Even under a simplified pattern incorporating only NWR and without a day-night transition:
0700 Mon start, 2200 Mon RDR,
0700 Tue start, 2200 Tue RDR,
0700 Wed start, 2200 Wed RDR,
0700 Thu start, 2000 Thu NWR (1700 Sat is earliest start possible),
0700 Sun start, 2200 Sun RDR,
0700 Mon start…
Only 4 RDRs fall within the 168-hour window, and the backsliding of the NWR means that on some weeks only 3 RDRs are possible, so really the attempt to beat the system yields less than one RDR a week extra on average (and at the price of significantly more WR on average, because you’re doing 4-on-2-off instead of 5-on-2-off).
Rjan:
But besides being truly horrific, only 5 of the RDRs technically fall within a 168-hour week (the six shifts and their associated rests fall within a 181-hour window, if I’ve done my sums correctly).
You can have a reduced daily rest period without working a full 15 hour shift, so technically you could easily have 6 reduced daily rest periods within a week
the nodding donkey:
why would you work (well, live…) like that
I’m not suggesting that people should have 6 reduced daily rest periods in a week, personally I’ve never done that.
I don’t make the rules I was just answering the OPs question, don’t shoot the messenger 
tachograph:
Rjan:
But besides being truly horrific, only 5 of the RDRs technically fall within a 168-hour week (the six shifts and their associated rests fall within a 181-hour window, if I’ve done my sums correctly).You can have a reduced daily rest period without working a full 15 hour shift, so technically you could easily have 6 reduced daily rest periods within a week
Well, indeed, but that is again at the price of reduced working hours due to the backsliding of each DR and the backsliding of the onset of a WR.
The purpose of trying to get more RDRs is usually to affect the ratio of work to rest, so that an employer can make more use of each employee or a employee can maximise hourly earnings.
So you could do:
0700 Mon start, 0800 Mon RDR,
1700 Mon start, 1800 Mon RDR,
0300 Tue start, 0400 Tue RDR,
1300 Tue start, 1400 Tue RWR,
1400 Wed start, 1500 Wed RDR,
0000 Thu start, 0100 Thu RDR,
0900 Thu start, 1000 Thu RDR,
1900 Thu start, 2000 Thu NWR,
1700 Sat start, 1800 Sat RDR, etc.
Cleary we’ve got more than six in there, but you’re doing barely any work, and your sleep pattern will be worse than a CIA detainee.
Although I work a lot of 14 to 15 hour days I rarely have 9 off usually 10 to 12.
I work the drivers hours regs to suit me or more accurately my employer so they can afford to keep me employed and increase the profitability of their company and in turn me.
But I love trucking and I like to truck (sure theres a song about this ), im staggered by how good an employee I am, in fact even though im just a number in the corporate monster im currently loyal to I often wonder what a prime asset I could be to a smaller entity.
I also like fishing, swimming and socialising with complete strangers.
Job offers by PM please, form an orderley que.
Tris:
Is the 3 occasions you can do this over a fortnight or over a week. Bloke who gave us our CPC said you could do 3 every week, I thought it was 3 times over a fortnight but max 2 in a week i.e 2 one week 1 the next or vice versa.
And people say the DCPC is a waste of time.
I hope you were paying close attention to everything he was saying, you clearly need to.
Dipper_Dave:
Although I work a lot of 14 to 15 hour days I rarely have 9 off usually 10 to 12.
I work the drivers hours regs to suit me or more accurately my employer so they can afford to keep me employed and increase the profitability of their company and in turn me.But I love trucking and I like to truck (sure theres a song about this
I also like fishing, swimming and socialising with complete strangers.
Job offers by PM please, form an orderley que.
Although so as to not confuse anyone, if you do a 14 or 15 hour day then have 10 or 12 hours off, it still only counts as having 9 hours off and using one of your reduced rests because your not getting a full 11 hours off before the end of your 24 hour period.
I know of someone recently who was repeatedly working 14 and 15 hour days, 0500 to 2000 for example, then starting the next day at 0800 and genuinely thinking that meant because he’d had 12 hours off it didn’t count as a reduced rest.
Rowley010:
Dipper_Dave:
Although I work a lot of 14 to 15 hour days I rarely have 9 off usually 10 to 12.
I work the drivers hours regs to suit me or more accurately my employer so they can afford to keep me employed and increase the profitability of their company and in turn me.But I love trucking and I like to truck (sure theres a song about this
I also like fishing, swimming and socialising with complete strangers.
Job offers by PM please, form an orderley que.
Although so as to not confuse anyone, if you do a 14 or 15 hour day then have 10 or 12 hours off, it still only counts as having 9 hours off and using one of your reduced rests because your not getting a full 11 hours off before the end of your 24 hour period.
I know of someone recently who was repeatedly working 14 and 15 hour days, 0500 to 2000 for example, then starting the next day at 0800 and genuinely thinking that meant because he’d had 12 hours off it didn’t count as a reduced rest.
If you’ve managed to get a 3 hour rest in at some point in your shift then you’re OK.
I should add here that as a tramping box jockey your either driving or on break, other work is minimal apart from daily checks and minor faffing about like washing the truck for example. POA is never used.
It’s one of the more hour intensive sectors but as far as actual physical graft goes not so much.
Some love it some hate it, some can’t envisage being at work that long but for me it’s a lifestyle choice that suits me at the moment.