Norfolkinclue1:
So come on all you loud union boys, explain that?
12.2% turn out, a 6% of the vote for “victory” ?
Yeah, those unions are brilliant. We all look out for each other you know. One for all etc etc.
What a [zb] embarrassment. Even the members can’t be bothered, must have finally realised what actually happens to those subs and what the sacred leader actually cares about eh?
Although to be fair, maybe the other 87.8% of the spineless brainwashed muppets just didn’t get this months email on what to think and say?
UNITE my hairy arse ha ha…
Oh, and if you’re offended by my post, just pop along to your rep and report me, he will care, maybe take some time off to get over it, you know, cause your in the union so it’s ok. The less work the better.
To be fair mate I don’t think there are any stereotypical as you say ‘‘Loud Union boys’’ on here.
There are definitely one or two (including me) who agree with the CONCEPT of a union with a small ‘u’ …, ie, a union in terms of a group of drivers, as a body that will stand up against any unfair treatment or abuse…, but in this job they are as rare as rocking horse crap.
Trade Unions were a good thing when formed in the 30s or whenever, when workers had few or no rights, with no real t and c contracts (a bit like today in fact in many cases 
) however the 70s made them as popular as herpes.
The establishment after all this unrest, jumped on this dissatisfaction with Trade Unions, and spun out all the negative propoganda, in a ‘divide and conquer’ agenda, and succeeded. Until many of the working class took in board the spin to the point of repeating and believing it all…a bit like yourself in fact.
I agree Trade Unions have lost their way, these guys at the top are as bad, if not worse than the management greedy ‘fat cats’ hence maybe the low turn out figures that you quote, down to apathy because of these guys, nobody wants them,… or at least 87.8% didn’t by the figures.
However as I said a group that will stick together…(…of which there is no reason for existence if working for a good fair co, again though the rocking horse comes into the equation on that subject also.) can get improvements.
As an example, I work for a co who have a main depot in another area, where drivers consideration are not let us say their first priority…(.the driver’s toilet is now a portaloo, enough said. )
To compare as an example with a similar co I know in the North East, doing similar work, both firms proposed to use forward and driver facing accident/event cameras, both co!s drivers did not want the inward facing cameras, (but no probs with the outwards) the North East co’s drivers refused to have them and stuck together, and won.
Our lot moaned and ■■■■ groaned but went along with it…see my point?
It aint just transport either, my daughter who works in an office was told it was ‘unprofessional’ to have breaks 
, as it took you out of ‘The work zone’ and that they should stop on, unpaid, after hours and come in weekends, again unpaid, to get things done…(only her manager is on a bonus surprise surprise) this would never happen if there was a Union
I don’t know you mate, but I would imagine your views are down to one of two situations that you are in.
- You are like I was 10 yrs ago, happily work for a good firm, with good t.s and c.s and perks who look after you, so no need for any T.Union or even a union or group who stick together…as it SHOULD be.
Or
- Please tell me your views are not down to the fact that you never question any type of crap chucked at you, and readily accept it without question…as too many do in this job.
So no, I aint offended,.as I said, most of what you say is accurate, but there is a bigger picture to be looked at, otherwise it’s back to the 1920s in terms of rights and fairness in employment.
