10hrs driving

schrodingers cat:

Pat Hasler:

del949:
do drivers need training?

You are not alone, I meet drivers here who have no idea about hours of service. It’s so simple here but guys don’t understand the split break system of taking 2 hour off duty, then 8 in the sleeper. One of our guys was parked outside a drop a few weeks ago and said he had booked 3 hour then booked 7 in the sleeper, I told him no but he wouldn’t have it. Result !he got a violation on his log. The same guy thinks if a trailer is empty it is ok to log off and drive :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I explained to him that if that were legal nobody would ever run out of time on our job :laughing:

Obviously not that simple it 3 hours then 9 for a split daily rest.

Not in every country it isn’t.

schrodingers cat:

Pat Hasler:

del949:
do drivers need training?

You are not alone, I meet drivers here who have no idea about hours of service. It’s so simple here but guys don’t understand the split break system of taking 2 hour off duty, then 8 in the sleeper. One of our guys was parked outside a drop a few weeks ago and said he had booked 3 hour then booked 7 in the sleeper, I told him no but he wouldn’t have it. Result !he got a violation on his log. The same guy thinks if a trailer is empty it is ok to log off and drive :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I explained to him that if that were legal nobody would ever run out of time on our job :laughing:

Obviously not that simple it 3 hours then 9 for a split daily rest.

Maybe DCPC IS a good idea after all.

Not for him since he’s not subject to the DCPC

turnip:

Pat Hasler:
It’s so simple here but guys don’t understand the split break system of taking 2 hour off duty, then 8 in the sleeper. :laughing:

Not legal !
3+9 as of 2007.

by here, he means in the good 'ole US of A :slight_smile:

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On the left hand side :wink:

waynedl:

turnip:

Pat Hasler:
It’s so simple here but guys don’t understand the split break system of taking 2 hour off duty, then 8 in the sleeper. :laughing:

Not legal !
3+9 as of 2007.

by here, he means in the good 'ole US of A :slight_smile:

Pat Hasler
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On the left hand side :wink:

Ah ! Explained ! T y.

switchlogic:

schrodingers cat:

Pat Hasler:

del949:
do drivers need training?

You are not alone, I meet drivers here who have no idea about hours of service. It’s so simple here but guys don’t understand the split break system of taking 2 hour off duty, then 8 in the sleeper. One of our guys was parked outside a drop a few weeks ago and said he had booked 3 hour then booked 7 in the sleeper, I told him no but he wouldn’t have it. Result !he got a violation on his log. The same guy thinks if a trailer is empty it is ok to log off and drive :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I explained to him that if that were legal nobody would ever run out of time on our job :laughing:

Obviously not that simple it 3 hours then 9 for a split daily rest.

Maybe DCPC IS a good idea after all.

Not for him since he’s not subject to the DCPC

Where is he from? Does it not cover all eu country’s?

here is a clue

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Santa:
Of course a driver should know the basic rules, but there are all kinds of exceptions that he may not normally use.

A driver who spent the last ten years doing 8/9 hours a day in an 18 tonner may well not be too sure about the rules for a second break when he goes over ten hours. In 40+ years of driving, I have never double manned so I am not too clear about the rules; neither am I totally sure of the rules about split breaks on ferries. What I do know, is that there are rules and where to find them - so, in the unlikely event, I will look them up. I wouldn’t ask on here because I would get flamed for being an idiot.

When I did my CPC (the manager’s version) I had to learn all sorts of stuff about construction and use, TIR and international rail freight. I promptly forgot it all, but (in those pre-internet days) I had Croner’s exellent guide to look it up if I needed to.

+1, although 30 years for me. And as for the DCPC, are all the instructors clear on the rules ?