I was at INEOS Grangemouth yesterday and on the notice board was a poster saying that from jan 2015, All petroleum drivers must have a petroleum drivers passport. If you dont have it you will not be able to load at any terminal.Anyone know what this is all about (costs etc) who pays. I thought the ADR and cpc covered all this.
Google is your friend.
http://www.sqa.org.uk/sqa/65382.html
And here.
http://www.rha.uk.net/docs/4_7%20DODF%20Petroleum%20Driver%20Passport%20Overview%204sept2013.pdf
Sounds like the tanker element that has to be done here in France.
Thanks for your quick reply.I have looked on the link you gave me, Looks like more days sitting in a classroom with someone telling me how the job should be done. (ive been on fuel tankers 38 years now). but as long as the company is paying for it i will attend. Just had a call from a mate who seen my post, He said the examiner has got to watch you loading offloading etc, then you get your pdp.
It seems to suggest all petroleum products but I’m not sure, does anyone know if it will extend to LPG?
From what i have heard it is all tanker drivers, maybe dieseldave could come on and throw some light on this and let us know who needs the pdp.
There’s no mention of LPG Drivers in the booklet I have been given
It states that any driver renewing their ADR in 2014 will sit the new Passport section and that the Passport will then run alongside your ADR and will need to be renewed every 5 years.
Any Driver that won’t need to renew their ADR in 2014 will have to sit a course and that will remain valid until you next renew your ADR.
All Drivers who wants to load in any Terminal from 2015 will need this new Passport to gain entry. No passport no entry.
Looks like another day in the classroom.
With all the cards we have to carry in our different jobs the government will have to increase the gross weight limits soon!
And people wonder why companies outsouce…first for the money ,then petty stupidity like this
zeddman:
And people wonder why companies outsouce…first for the money ,then petty stupidity like this
Or because almost all of the Oil Companies have outsourced their workforce they don’t know what type of training everyone has undertaken.
This Passport is supposed to make sure everyone involved in the Petroleum Industry has had a set standard of training.
It is to stop the cowboys coming into the industry without all the relevant training and undercutting the rates.
That’s the general idea.
matt watson:
From what i have heard it is all tanker drivers, maybe dieseldave could come on and throw some light on this and let us know who needs the pdp.
Hi Matt,
It’s the petroleum tanker drivers who will need the PDP.
The PDP is required by drivers who carry the following:
- UN 1202 — Gas oil or diesel fuel or heating oil, light
- UN 1203 — Gasoline or petrol or motor spirit
- UN 1223 — Kerosene
- UN 1863 — Fuel, aviation, turbine engine
Depending on circumstances, PDP may also apply to:
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1268 PETROLEUM DISTILLATES, N.O.S. or PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, N.O.S.
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3475 ETHANOL AND GASOLINE MIXTURE or ETHANOL AND MOTOR SPIRIT MIXTURE or ETHANOL AND PETROL MIXTURE
The PDP can count towards DCPC provided that the PDP provider is also registered with JAUPT as a DCPC provider, but please be advised that this is NOT automatic.
In essence, the idea behind the PDP is that it is agreed by the various terminal operators as a single standardised and benchmarked training system that will be recognised across the industry.
dieseldave, thanks for that, i’ll now keep my head down and await the inclusion of 1978 & 1011 
Héraultais:
http://www.rha.uk.net/docs/4_7%20DODF%20Petroleum%20Driver%20Passport%20Overview%204sept2013.pdfSounds like the tanker element that has to be done here in France.
That Fraser Talbot is a tidy looking sort…
dieseldave:
matt watson:
From what i have heard it is all tanker drivers, maybe dieseldave could come on and throw some light on this and let us know who needs the pdp.Hi Matt,
It’s the petroleum tanker drivers who will need the PDP.
The PDP is required by drivers who carry the following:
- UN 1202 — Gas oil or diesel fuel or heating oil, light
- UN 1203 — Gasoline or petrol or motor spirit
- UN 1223 — Kerosene
- UN 1863 — Fuel, aviation, turbine engine
Depending on circumstances, PDP may also apply to:
1268 PETROLEUM DISTILLATES, N.O.S. or PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, N.O.S.
3475 ETHANOL AND GASOLINE MIXTURE or ETHANOL AND MOTOR SPIRIT MIXTURE or ETHANOL AND PETROL MIXTURE
The PDP can count towards DCPC provided that the PDP provider is also registered with JAUPT as a DCPC provider, but please be advised that this is NOT automatic.
In essence, the idea behind the PDP is that it is agreed by the various terminal operators as a single standardised and benchmarked training system that will be recognised across the industry.
Thanks for your reply dave,
DrivingMissDaisy:
That Fraser Talbot is a tidy looking sort…
Fraser is a good guy.
He was to do ADR licences when SQA first got the nod from the DfT after City and Guilds weren’t successful when the contract was renewed. (IIRC, 2006/2007)
I think his role has changed since then cos I got a form letter with his signature on it when I passed my DGSA re-qual exams earlier this year.
dave19544:
dieseldave, thanks for that, i’ll now keep my head down and await the inclusion of 1978 & 1011
Hi Dave,
I’ve had a pretty good look through the PDP syllabus and the Manual of Practice for PDP Training Providers, and I didn’t see any mention of UN 1011 or UN 1978, mind you… if they did think of including those at some later date, they’d probably have to include UN 1965 too.
Is it possible to do ADR self study or you have to be in class?
Pimpdaddy:
Is it possible to do ADR self study or you have to be in class?
You have to attend at an SQA approved training provider - the course is attendance-based too, meaning you must be there for the training modules you require on your ADR licence. You cannot just show up for the multi-choice exams.
Daz1970:
Pimpdaddy:
Is it possible to do ADR self study or you have to be in class?You have to attend at an SQA approved training provider - the course is attendance-based too, meaning you must be there for the training modules you require on your ADR licence. You cannot just show up for the multi-choice exams.
This is spot-on ^^ 
Ok, I was thinking self study then come in for a revision session then exams or something. Can you do it one day a week?
Pimpdaddy:
Ok, I was thinking self study then come in for a revision session then exams or something. Can you do it one day a week?
Not really…the approved courses are modular and must be pre-notified with SQA. So mostly they are held during the week, covering all ‘general’ modules & you then choose as a delegate which modules you require - the more modules, the more attendance required. Minimum three modules to get an ADR licence. Approx. 2 days training plus exams. Then you can ‘bolt on’ extra modules if you wish, as and when reqd., after your first ADR licence arrives.
Don’t forget if you do a full Initial course (minus tankers), you may be eligible for 3 x 7hrs Driver CPC whilst attending your ADR course - this is a good offer!!!