I only heard about this yesterday , does this mean another expensive I’d card on top of all the others to enable me to do a job I already do , who gets to pay for this one, I collect & deliver gas oil & heating oil…
Currently on the ADR course this week and doing the tanker module tomorrow. Someone in the class today asked the trainer if we would automatically qualify for PDP after doing the tanker module. “No way”, he says, “it’s a totally seperate qualification. You’ll have a day in the classroom covering theory, and then an assessor will watch you load up at the terminal, accompany you to your delivery point and watch you offload the petrol. Based on his/her assesssment you will/will not get a PDP”.
To be more “official” I’ve just found this on the SQA website:-
3.2
How do I get my Petroleum Driver Passport?
All drivers will have to get their PDP during 2014. Drivers whose ADR is up for renewal,or who require their first ADR during 2014, will undergo written and practical assessment to achieve their full PDP. Those drivers whose ADR is not due for renewal during 2014 will work towards an interim PDP. Interim and full PDP have equal status. The interim model allows drivers to achieve their PDP if their ADR renewal is more than 12 months away. The interim passport is then valid until their ADR renewal, when the driver will undergo full PDP training and assessment and their PDP renewal will then align with the ADR renewal cycle. For the interim PDP, drivers will be given classroom training prior to taking a written assessment, set by SQA, covering key content of the Industry Training Standard.To achieve their full PDP, drivers will undertake PDP training and a full written assessment, set by SQA, alongside their five-yearly ADR renewal training and assessment. For both interim and full PDP, drivers will also undertake a practical assessment in the industry sub-sector most relevant to their workload with a qualified and approved PDP assessor.The practical assessment will cover loading, driving and offloading within one of the five sub-sectors covered by the PDP Scheme: Retail, Aviation, Commercial, Home Heat and Marine. Sub-sector knowledge and practical requirements are built into the Training Standard and designed to assist driver training when new to a sub sector. Industry sub-sector knowledge is not part of the full or interim PDP written assessment, but drivers will be assessed on their knowledge of the rules of the PDP scheme itself.
In order to maintain the validity of their PDP, drivers will be required to undertake an annual practical assessment and one day of annual classroom refreshment training, completion of which will be recorded.
Forgive my cynicism but it wouldnt have anything to do with the gov then know how many staff they need to cover a fuel strike would it?
So it is basically another money making course to teach you how to do a job you already do ! Before we can load at our local refinery we have to do an induction and safe loading course before they will let you in to fill a bottle of water let alone a tanker, and what will an assessor make of some of the gas oil farm drops where the tank is in the rafters of an old barn with oil spill everywhere, some of the these places take 8000+ litres in one hit .
kemaro:
So it is basically another money making course to teach you how to do a job you already do ! Before we can load at our local refinery we have to do an induction and safe loading course before they will let you in to fill a bottle of water let alone a tanker, …
Hi kemaro
That’s spot-on mate, but therein lies the whole reason for the PDP…
Refinery X makes you do their induction, but refinery Y doesn’t recognise it… whilst refinery Z does the whole thing another different way.
PDP is an agreed standard, so once you’ve got it, it’s recognised by all the refineries because they’ve all signed up to it.
Once you’ve got your PDP, you can fill your water bottle at any refinery of your choosing. 
sonofjamie:
Currently on the ADR course this week and doing the tanker module tomorrow. Someone in the class today asked the trainer if we would automatically qualify for PDP after doing the tanker module. “No way”, he says, “it’s a totally seperate qualification. You’ll have a day in the classroom covering theory, and then an assessor will watch you load up at the terminal, accompany you to your delivery point and watch you offload the petrol. Based on his/her assesssment you will/will not get a PDP”.
Hi sonofjamie,
Your instructor is spot-on about PDP being a separate qualification, and I’ll add that it’s only for certain substances in the fuel industry.
dieseldave:
PDP is an agreed standard, so once you’ve got it, it’s recognised by all the refineries because they’ve all signed up to it.
Once you’ve got your PDP, you can fill your water bottle at any refinery of your choosing.
"Will Drivers holding a PDP still require Terminal Inductions?
Yes, terminals will still need to pass on terminal specific information to drivers who have obtained a PDP as the final step before allowing unsupervised loading rack access. This induction will cover site specific elements such as emergency procedures that can only be covered at the terminal level."
Correct, the PDP does not supersede terminal procedures, rules or regulations. Drivers will still need to undertake a terminal induction as well as supervised loads, undertaken by a terminal approved driver trainer. Usually followed by a pass out load by a terminal controller before they can load unsupervised at a terminal.
suavecolliedog:
Correct, the PDP does not supersede terminal procedures, rules or regulations. Drivers will still need to undertake a terminal induction as well as supervised loads, undertaken by a terminal approved driver trainer. Usually followed by a pass out load by a terminal controller before they can load unsupervised at a terminal.
Any idea how long it takes to be inducted @ a terminal & can you do the PDP privately if you’re not employed in the industry? There is a list of approved training providers.
kemaro:
So it is basically another money making course to teach you how to do a job you already do ! Before we can load at our local refinery we have to do an induction and safe loading course before they will let you in to fill a bottle of water let alone a tanker, and what will an assessor make of some of the gas oil farm drops where the tank is in the rafters of an old barn with oil spill everywhere, some of the these places take 8000+ litres in one hit .
You do need teaching to do the job you already do, cos you obviously don’t know what your doing.
Your delivering to tanks in the rafters of an old barn? Your delivering to tanks that have no bund wall or are double skinned 
Your delivering when there is already evidence of spillages the EA are going to love you and whoever you work for when it goes wrong 
edit to add what distance are these delivery tanks located to nearest water course, remember farms are notorious for drainage ditches around fields 