The guy sounds like the same sort of prize knobs I had to work with in my first driving job, which was also job and knock.
Given the luxury of choice, I would never go near job and knock again. The whole culture of rushing and racing just did my head in. Being paid hourly is just far more relaxing and generally safer for the public.
farnboroughboy:
I wouldn’t be so nice about it, I would tell him bluntly that his driving is [zb] [zb] awful.
Firstly, this ^ but I’d start off more jokingly by asking him what’s with his driving. Try to sort it out between yourselves first. If you get your tone right it might be enough for him to feel a bit sheepish and rein his antics in. If it makes no difference whatsoever and he laughs it off or gets all defensive then it’s time to crank it up a couple of notches and tell him in no uncertain terms that he’s driving like a ■■■■ and I want to get home to my family tonight, not be scooped up off the road in a body bag when his luck runs out. If that still has no effect then :
merc0447:
You want an easy life eh… well you will no get it if you go running to the bosses. Also other drivers politics how well does he get on with everyone else he could make your work life a misery. How is his relationship with tm is he a goldenboy?
Need to look at all the pieces of the puzzle before you act.
This ^. Never underestimate the power of driver/office politics in any company. I’ve enough agency experience behind me to recommend you keep quiet in 99% of cases because being an outsider it usually won’t end well for you, with this being the usual end result :
mac12:
Difficult if you are agency and he’s fulltime if you complain they may just not have you back again.
I would strongly recommend treading carefully rather than the guns blazing approach.
Would it be better to complain to the agency and let them sort it out?
rob22888:
Being paid hourly is just far more relaxing and generally safer for the public.
+1
I’ve had a lovely Friday trundling around in the sun and watching the money build up. Incentives to rush around and drive like a [zb] should be illegal.
farnboroughboy:
I wouldn’t be so nice about it, I would tell him bluntly that his driving is [zb] [zb] awful.
Firstly, this ^ but I’d start off more jokingly by asking him what’s with his driving. Try to sort it out between yourselves first. If you get your tone right it might be enough for him to feel a bit sheepish and rein his antics in. If it makes no difference whatsoever and he laughs it off or gets all defensive then it’s time to crank it up a couple of notches and tell him in no uncertain terms that he’s driving like a ■■■■ and I want to get home to my family tonight, not be scooped up off the road in a body bag when his luck runs out. If that still has no effect then :
merc0447:
You want an easy life eh… well you will no get it if you go running to the bosses. Also other drivers politics how well does he get on with everyone else he could make your work life a misery. How is his relationship with tm is he a goldenboy?
Need to look at all the pieces of the puzzle before you act.
This ^. Never underestimate the power of driver/office politics in any company. I’ve enough agency experience behind me to recommend you keep quiet in 99% of cases because being an outsider it usually won’t end well for you, with this being the usual end result :
mac12:
Difficult if you are agency and he’s fulltime if you complain they may just not have you back again.
I would strongly recommend treading carefully rather than the guns blazing approach.
Would it be better to complain to the agency and let them sort it out?
I’m guessing you’ve never done agency work before otherwise you’d know how well that would turn out for you…
farnboroughboy:
I wouldn’t be so nice about it, I would tell him bluntly that his driving is [zb] [zb] awful.
Firstly, this ^ but I’d start off more jokingly by asking him what’s with his driving. Try to sort it out between yourselves first. If you get your tone right it might be enough for him to feel a bit sheepish and rein his antics in. If it makes no difference whatsoever and he laughs it off or gets all defensive then it’s time to crank it up a couple of notches and tell him in no uncertain terms that he’s driving like a ■■■■ and I want to get home to my family tonight, not be scooped up off the road in a body bag when his luck runs out. If that still has no effect then :
merc0447:
You want an easy life eh… well you will no get it if you go running to the bosses. Also other drivers politics how well does he get on with everyone else he could make your work life a misery. How is his relationship with tm is he a goldenboy?
Need to look at all the pieces of the puzzle before you act.
This ^. Never underestimate the power of driver/office politics in any company. I’ve enough agency experience behind me to recommend you keep quiet in 99% of cases because being an outsider it usually won’t end well for you, with this being the usual end result :
mac12:
Difficult if you are agency and he’s fulltime if you complain they may just not have you back again.
I would strongly recommend treading carefully rather than the guns blazing approach.
Would it be better to complain to the agency and let them sort it out?
I’m guessing you’ve never done agency work before otherwise you’d know how well that would turn out for you…
As it 'appens, I have in the past done lots of agency work, and I hope I never have to return to it. Either way,I’d be going home safely - thier loss not mine!
No excuse for this prat…either tell him to his face or go to the TM…id rather go home than to the undertakers, i had the pleasure some time back…double manned…he did the first shift , well it was a one off i know but your put with a stranger so you get the chin wagging out the way…listen to there ■■■■■■■■…and if your lucky get a bit of shut eye…not a chance with this dong…he never shut up about his ■■■■■■ exploits…and texting every few minutes to his bit of fluff on the side as he called it…it was like being in that advert…what sort of cheese was that !..■■■ in one hand on the steering wheel the other texting and his mouth flapping all the time, even when i got behind the wheel he never bleedin shutup furkin nightmare…when we got back to his depot…he was a full timer…i was the hired low life…i walked to his Tm’s office and told him what a dangerous plank he was employing, then went home knacked …no kip ears ringing from his monotone ramblings all night…never ever again, so the advise is dont put up with crap like many have said on this thread…think about your safety and bollox to them.
First of all, thanks for the wise words and advice.
I went in this morning, and having spoken to the other drivers, just general chat, managed to form the opinion that my co driver is not too well liked. Today went reasonably well, without too much in the way of incidents, spoke to the supervisor when we got back as the TM flits between 2 depots so is hard to pin down. All the issues I raised with him have been noted, as unofficial and off the record for the time being, but I was asked if I was willing to make it official and write a statement, when the time comes, as wheels are already in motion, so to speak.
SuffolkLad:
I’m currently working as part of a 2 man team, on home delivery in a 18t DAF. Now, I’m a relatively new class 2 driver, having only passed in April, but have 15yrs of 7.5t experience, and to be honest, his driving worries me. For instance, single carriage way, flat out on the limiter, approaching a car in front, he decides to overtake, and as we get level with the car, then notices the traffic island in front of us, and the fact we wont make it, has to pull back in. Or the motorcyle he decides to overtake, again single carriageway, as we approach a bend, nothing coming towards us, until we’re level with the bike, and a car comes round the bend, and we have to pull in, cutting up the motorcycle. or the amount of cars we’ve nearly rear ended at junctions because he’s been more interested in criticising their driving than watching what they were doing. And lets not forget the total disregard for rural speed limits, 30 through a village? No chance with him…
Now, I don’t claim to be the best driver, but I do believe in driving safely, and not taking unnecessary risks.
So, your opinions please on this, just a small selection of today’s issues, and would you mention this to the management, or just keep quiet?
I’m not what you’d call a grass, but these near misses happen on a near enough daily basis.