Concretejim:
What about when the new tachos come and every border crossing has to be recorded.
Exactly - the new smart tacho will make a big change, but won’t the villains learn to fix it?
shep532:
Concretejim:
What about when the new tachos come and every border crossing has to be recorded.Exactly - the new smart tacho will make a big change, but won’t the villains learn to fix it?
Yes, sooner rather than later probably which is why I favour not just big fines, these aren’t big in my opinion, and immediate seizure and destruction of the vehicles involved.
TiredAndEmotional:
shep532:
Concretejim:
What about when the new tachos come and every border crossing has to be recorded.Exactly - the new smart tacho will make a big change, but won’t the villains learn to fix it?
Yes, sooner rather than later probably which is why I favour not just big fines, these aren’t big in my opinion, and immediate seizure and destruction of the vehicles involved.
That…will never happen, authorities all over europe and no doubt the UK have far bigger fish to fry than worry about tacho infringements/ recalibration. Its a very very small part of overall road policing in general ( ITV/insurance, have more priority over here) and the only ones ever caught are possibly ones involved in a shunt or the odd blitz on it(in the UK anyway) by dvsa, its the very reason many euro hauliers do it…
AndrewG:
TiredAndEmotional:
shep532:
Concretejim:
What about when the new tachos come and every border crossing has to be recorded.Exactly - the new smart tacho will make a big change, but won’t the villains learn to fix it?
Yes, sooner rather than later probably which is why I favour not just big fines, these aren’t big in my opinion, and immediate seizure and destruction of the vehicles involved.
That…will never happen, authorities all over europe and no doubt the UK have far bigger fish to fry than worry about tacho infringements/ recalibration. Its a very very small part of overall road policing in general ( ITV/insurance, have more priority over here) and the only ones ever caught are possibly ones involved in a shunt or the odd blitz on it(in the UK anyway) by dvsa, its the very reason many euro hauliers do it…
Big fish to deal with ? True Andrew.
That’s why with the current terrorist threat no one will ever get a parking ticket or speeding fine or …?
If you want to argue the chances of detection are small, you’re probably right. But I’m not sure I agree about your reasoning as to why.
Maybe the opposite is true, if under trained, under resourced, enforcement agencies get a chance to catch 20 sprats they’ll leave the bigger, more difficult to catch fish alone?
This suggestion comes from a position of no inside knowledge or understanding, just another guess.
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Keep impounding the buggers one at a time as they come over in bent wagons to release the banged up ones. Once you have five, put em in the machine, reduce size to something that will fit in a Euro liner and send em back. Im sure once RomaniaFreight or whatever they want to be called get £375ks worth of trucks back as 20ks worth of scrap metal blocks a few times, they will realise the UK won’t stand for their underhand ■■■■■ anymore.
nsmith1180:
Keep impounding the buggers one at a time as they come over in bent wagons to release the banged up ones. Once you have five, put em in the machine, reduce size to something that will fit in a Euro liner and send em back. Im sure once RomaniaFreight or whatever they want to be called get £375ks worth of trucks back as 20ks worth of scrap metal blocks a few times, they will realise the UK won’t stand for their underhand [zb] anymore.
A bit drastic 
RO/BG/HU/PL Freight just have a different interpretation of the ‘law’… 
Have to ask…are UK hauliers running to the letter of the law? If not, its probably not a bad deal as i believe steel and ally fetch more in the UK… 
AndrewG:
nsmith1180:
Keep impounding the buggers one at a time as they come over in bent wagons to release the banged up ones. Once you have five, put em in the machine, reduce size to something that will fit in a Euro liner and send em back. Im sure once RomaniaFreight or whatever they want to be called get £375ks worth of trucks back as 20ks worth of scrap metal blocks a few times, they will realise the UK won’t stand for their underhand [zb] anymore.A bit drastic
Have to ask…are UK hauliers running to the letter of the law? If not, its probably not a bad deal as i believe steel and ally fetch more in the UK…
I know I run in line with the law. Anyone who doesn’t, I have no time for.
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Concretejim, I don’t know what you mean about new tacho will have to record border crossing ?
Current rules and tacho , require drivers to enter start place and end place of each shift by selecting which country in the menu .
Spain is the only country where you must enter a specific area or county.
For example start shift in Malaga, the county is Andalusia, so enter AND, you finish in Teruel in Navarra, enter NAV.
The reason Spain do this, is they have many religious and public holidays, of which there are truck bans.Some bans can be one day or few days .
The county codes are used, so if the police stop you, they can work out if you drove on a ban day and fine.the driver.
toby1234abc:
Concretejim, I don’t know what you mean about new tacho will have to record border crossing ?
Current rules and tacho , require drivers to enter start place and end place of each shift by selecting which country in the menu .
Spain is the only country where you must enter a specific area or county.For example start shift in Malaga, the county is Andalusia, so enter AND, you finish in Teruel in Navarra, enter NAV.
The reason Spain do this, is they have many religious and public holidays, of which there are truck bans.Some bans can be one day or few days .
The county codes are used, so if the police stop you, they can work out if you drove on a ban day and fine.the driver.
It is part of the new smart tacho legislation. Border crossings will need to be recorded. There is a vague possibility this may have to be done by manual entry, but more likely it will be automatically recorded via the GPS built in. The tacho will record log in/off co-ordinates, every three hours of driving and at border crossings.
It will also record co-ordinates for various issues such as driving without card, card insertion whilst driving, motion sensor issues. The idea being to detect possible fraudulent activity.
The remote access will be limited to only this kind of data, and only if it suggests fraudulent activity. The authorities will only be able to keep the data for around three hours unless to be used as evidence for an offence.