Hang on a minute, every member knows the rules when they register to post on this site, you also agree to abide by them.
AFAIC Lucy has explained the events what led to Rob being suspended, and in more detail than I would expect from any site owner. It is now upto Rob to decide if he wants to appologise or not. Its is definatly not for the members to decide, he broke the rules by sending the PM, and then putting it in the feedback forum. End of story.
I always like reading Rob`s posts- although he can be antagonistic, he is just as likely to post valuable and helpful information, so I for one hope that he is reconciled.
I can confirm that being a moderator is a difficult and thankless task, and I wish that Rob had shown Mrs Mix a little more common courtesy.
Still, like I said, I hope he returns, and with this end in mind, I have once again changed my signature.
members i can tell you this for nothing,tn nor mrs mix will not receive a written appology from rob and i can honestly say that you have heard the last of rob.unless you visit another truck site.
kitkat:
members i can tell you this for nothing,tn nor mrs mix will not receive a written appology from rob and i can honestly say that you have heard the last of rob.unless you visit another truck site.
kitkat:
members i can tell you this for nothing,tn nor mrs mix will not receive a written appology from rob and i can honestly say that you have heard the last of rob.unless you visit another truck site.
Well thats truly a great shame!
But I for one consider it, his loss not mine or TruckNets!
kitkat:
members i can tell you this for nothing,tn nor mrs mix will not receive a written appology from rob and i can honestly say that you have heard the last of rob.unless you visit another truck site.
Well thats truly a great shame!
But I for one consider it, his loss not mine or TruckNets!
well tc,concidering he was in the top 4 posters of t/net then i guess it’s t/nets problem ain’t it.
As the site has turned into something resembling a sunday school with slapped ankles for the pupils every time they post something against the middlesbrough rules, then rob wont be the last one to go.
For gods sake we are all adults, those that aren’t show more grown up behaviour than some of the other members.
below is part of an e-mail that i received from robk,i have taken some things out of it as they are between myself and rob,but wot you see is the majority of the e-mail.and yes i have his permission for you’s all to read
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I have given Lucy and Rikki’s comments some thought and also my words in the
PM to Pam, Lucy and the feedback forum and my decision stands. If you
decide to take on the roll of moderator/site admin then you must be prepared
to ‘deal with’ posts/pics/remarks in a neutral manner even though you might
find them highly offensive on a personal level. You are acting on behalf of
someone else to perform that task, not acting to suit your own agenda.
Pam has removed my posts on several occasions in the past where her
decisions have been over-ruled by a higher standing member of the team
because she removed them to suit her own agenda, not in the interests of the
Trucknet members. Just like the replies to this thread state, so far no-one
else had any problem with them and as a majority adult membership, I doubt
anyone would take offence unless they had a serious sense of humour failure.
Perhaps the old saying ‘if the cap fits’ is appropriate here?
My PM airing my displeasure at the decision to remove the post asked for
Pam’s moderator/site admin rights to be removed as it is clear she is not
capable of performing the tasks she agreed to take on at the outset. Bully
had already ‘approved’ the post bar removing one picture which I didn’t have
any problem with; I could relate perfectly well to his reasons why he
removed it. As he left the rest intact then he was obviously happy with the
content.
Special thanks to Jim for being a mate and putting me in the picture and to
all you guys for your kind words.
At the end of the day, it may not even be the mods, admin or even the owners of the site that may take action.
The ISP can close the site, they also have a legal obligation on things written on the site.
So, Please keep within the rules and keep the site alive and well.
O.K. I’ve kept quiet up till now
yes I removed the pictures for review
as i have previously done with countless others
had Rob just waited a little while they would have probably put back up
but no he fired of an abusive P.M. which is what he got suspended for and it was not what was put in the e-mail to Jim some of it was more insulting than that but then this is sometimes a thankless task making sure the content of these boards is o.k. for everyone.
I and the other mods ect do this for free in our own time and get very little thanks for it and if I am expected to put up with abuse then I’ll go now as I don’t need the aggro.
pam
p.s. after a quick check that was the first post of Rob’s that I have ever moved
i agree with mrs mix.
the fact that robk has gone and is unlikely to send an apology is a sad loss to trucknetuk but everyone agrees to abide by the rules when they register to use this free to use website and it’s forums.
nobody should have to put up with abuse from others either via pm/email or in person.
robk appears to have had a problem over the removal of the posted pics but had he waited or pm’d/emailed with a little thought for another persons feelings then the posted pics either in it’s entirety or after editing would have been returned to the forum, i have also seen the pics and agree that they would have required reviewing to ensure they did not contravene what could be described as offensive to minors and possibly the female gendered amongst the users of this site.
i know where robk has gone and each to their own, he feels he has not done anything wrong and refuses to apologise - again each to their own.
perhaps this is something for us all to think about should we have a post removed for review, the site is free to use but there are rules that must be followed when using this site.
unlike robk i do not contribute a great deal to the posts on this site, i comment only where i really feel that i want to but i know that if i were to have my own posting rights removed i would indeed miss it very much.
“Pam has removed my posts on several occasions in the past where her
decisions have been over-ruled by a higher standing member of the team
because she removed them to suit her own agenda”
then perhaps you’re not the best person to be a moderator.
LET’S GET A FEW THINGS STRAIGHT HERE, ONCE AND FOR ALL.
FACT - I have been through a) the Storage Shed; b) the Mods Forum; c) all Rob’s posts and d) all the private e-mails, PMs, and MSN Chat-logs I have, and Pam has NOT moved posts/threads of Rob’s any more often than anyone else’s…in fact as far as I can tell, this is the first time.
And yes, THIS CAN BE PROVED.
FACT - Rob was NOT suspended for the pictures. He was not even suspended for the PM, although that in itself would warrant a Yellow Card for rights to use the PM System. He was suspended because he posted a truly DISGUSTING personal attack on the public forums…despite having been warned, yellow carded, and then given so much slack he could have strung a rope bridge from here to Australia.
FACT - As far as who moved what from Bully’s Bar goes, here is what happened (not that it’s any of your business):
a) Bully saw the thread (being Forum Mod and therefore first line of defence, so to speak) and edited out the bits which obviously broke forum rules.
b) He was unsure about the rest, so, as is NORMAL under TNUK Staff Protocol, he refered it to the next highest authority for checking…which in this case was Pam, as she was around at the time.
c) She, too, was unsure, so again, as is NORMAL under TNUK Staff Protocol, she temporarily removed it to a safe place for someone above her to look at, ie. Myself or Rikki.
d) I looked at it, and was just about to make the necessary snips and return it to the Bar when Rob kicked off. At that point I was so busy dealing with the backlash of that that I forgot all about it…and by the time I did get time I decided that it had caused quite enough trouble already and therefore could stay pulled. That was MY decision. Not Pam’s. MINE.
FACT[/i] - Pam has always been, and continues to be, one of the best Admins TNUK has ever had. She puts in a huge amount of time and effort…and never hesitates to ring either myself, Rikki, or one of the other Admins for advice if she is unsure. That is why we have a Storage Shed. So things can be put there that Mods/Admins are unsure about, then either Myself or Rikki can make the final call. Pam’s ability to do her job is not, never has been, and I sincerely doubt ever will be, in question. You may not like it when she enforces the rules according to Staff Policy. But that is what she is doing. And very well she does it too. * FACT[/i] - When you join this site as a posting member, you agree to abide by the Rules and Guidelines of these forums. They apply to everyone. I DO NOT CARE IF YOU ARE THE KING OF ENGLAND, WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, OR THE WINNER OF THE PERRIER COMEDY AWARD. I DO NOT CARE IF YOU POST ONCE A YEAR OR 6 TIMES AN HOUR. I DO NOT CARE IF YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS ONLINE OR 1600000. THE RULES APPLY TO EVERYONE. END OF STORY.[/b] Rob was dealt with more than fairly…he was warned, Yellow Carded, warned umpteen more times, and eventually he took the proverbial one too many times. You are all very quick to object when someone is seen to be treated more favourably than others. Well, that is exactly how Rob was treated, and he still blew it. That is no-one’s fault but his own. He is still free to return for one last shot…all he has to do is send myself or Rikki an e-mail apologising to Pam for what was a truly disgusting personal attack - the sort that would have had you running screaming straight to me if it had been aimed at anyone else - and agreeing to abide by the Forum Rules and Guidelines. He will then have his Posting Rights reinstated. If he genuinely can’t see the problem, then I don’t care who he is, we don’t want him here. Simple. The rules apply to EVERYONE. "Ok…so what did he post which was so offensive? I hear you all ask. So, in an UTTERLY[/i] unprecedented move, and with the express permission of Pam, against whom this was aimed, here is a copy of what Rob posted in this forum - A PUBLIC FORUM - which finally caused him to be suspended. Bear in mind he also sent exactly the same thing by PM to both myself and Pam and then posted it without even awaiting a reply. Bear in mind that he also has his facts wrong about who is in charge of what, and what was happening to the infamous pictures (as explained above). Now, if any of you think that what follows is an acceptable thing to post on a public forum, then may I politely suggest that this site is not for you. Because I, Rikki, and all the other Staff here are in unanimous agreement that it is utterly unacceptable, no matter WHAT the circumstances. > Lucy > > Why has she YET AGAIN STUCK HER FAT BEAK IN YET AGAIN when it’s got NOTHING TO DO WITH HER■■? > The pics I posted in Bully’s were ALL FINE EXCEPT ONE which Bully removed. He was happy with the rest to stay and I think he knows best as it’s HIS FORUM TO MODERATE NOT PAM’S. She isn’t even a moderator of that forum. > > I request that you take her SITE ADMIN rights away from her and ban her from the site as she is clearly incapable of doing the job she took on and simply enjoys [zb] off as many people as possible. The bits in RED are Personal Attacks. The bits in GREEN are where he has his facts UTTERLY wrong…but he wouldn’t wait for a reply to his PM, or he would have had that explained to him. I have now gone way above and beyond the call of duty in explaining this one to you all. So if you still do like it/ don’t understand it/ don’t agree with it then you know what I suggest? LIVE WITH IT.
Well to be honest it was on the cards ages ago
I look on here now and again but gave up looking at anything with RobK s name near it as I like reading factual posts and found 50% of posts from RobK to be complete pieces of pure fantasy centering around the big “I am this I done this today I would have done this I told them to do that”
I think he had to much time on his hands and had too much of a vivid imagination,
so all in all I couldnt care less if they decide to ban him or not,
Sorry if that offends anyone but thats the view from me
