Is it not " You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead !"
Well I have been asked to join in!!!
Regards pushrod 47
DEANB:
To all the new guests/members that have posted well done and keep it up !
Chance would be a fine thing. 
We’re old and living on our memories. 
pushrod47:
Is it not " You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead !"
Well I have been asked to join in!!!
Regards pushrod 47
Well spotted Pushrod, I have amended my error, and consider myself reprimanded, 
Kind Regards, Ray Smyth.
grumpy old man:
DEANB:
To all the new guests/members that have posted well done and keep it up !Chance would be a fine thing.
Speak for yourself “grumpy old man” ! That did make me laugh !! 
Time flies like an arrow…fruit flies like a banana!!! Just thought I would add my own old adage. John.
> smallcoal:
> Hi all if you notice it’s getting worse years ago you could stop anywhere and drivers from all over would mingle with you truck stops were full of characters your mates would stop to help you , nowadays nobody talks to each other mates won’t stop its like guests on here come and talk they could be people who haven’t done much transport or are interested in knowing what we used to do many years ago I started on wagons when I was 14 been in game since then still am and I’m 52 now so come on guests join in you could learn something cheers John
Well Small Coal you are not far off there, but often we had no choice.
1st time I went to Rochdale to load TV cabinets from one of those dark satanic mills around 1971 I was given the number of the digs all the drivers on that job used.
I can’t remember her name, possibly Mrs Crankshaw, Farnworth, Sharples or Entwistle - anyway booked in advance & got to her small black & white terraced Lancashire Palace about 6:30 in the evening.
“You’re Last” she said “You share with Grundig” and showed me upstairs to the driver’s room.
I can’t remember exactly but I don’t think many others ever managed to squeeze so many beds in one room – at least all the windows were intact & not broken like a few places!!
Lo & behold amongst the array of beds squeezed in there was one double – the last 2 drivers to arrive shared – I doubt Grundig or I have ever slept as still as statues before or after.
On the bright side, breakfast was at 06:00 and a feast of meats, eggs & bread cooked in fresh grease - enough to last all day until we stopped again the next day (or day after)
Set us up proper for the trip into those dark satanic valleys, the haunt of ancient Seddons, Albions, Maudsleys, Atkinsons & other spine damaging means of torture/
I’m on here much less than normal nowadays, a late convert to Fa@×&₩¥k. Many more tipper and plant operators on there in job specific groups, and a few once prolific TN members who like me think TN has lost its’ way.
I don’t think I’ve posted a photo on the OT thread in ages, partly because I haven’t been to any shows for about 12 months and the Oxfordshire thread has seemingly died out. I expect this post to appear a day after I typed it.
I don’t understand the lost it’s way thing, after all, the topics on here are all posted by the members. Maybe it gets a bit monotonous when the same thing gets asked time and time again, which you will see as a long time member, but that’s the way it is on many forums.
I myself am guilty of not posting anything for some time, new topics I mean, I will have to get a diary up now that there’s a whole bunch of new victims to read my crap.
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newmercman:
… I will have to get a diary up now that there’s a whole bunch of new victims to read my crap. …
Look forward to it NMM. Drivers diaries were always interesting, even more so when written about other parts of the world! The Euro forum diaries were a very good read. I know that they can take a bit of work to put on screen, especially when you are posting photos as well, but they are well appreciated. Best you get scribbling mate!!
I too am guilty as charged of not posting for a while, what’s the old saying “Life is what happens while you are busy doing something else”, there’s always something to do & like others on here sometimes you just want to sit down & chill at the end of the day & look forward to the alarm going off at 3-4 am next morning . I do think that maybe some of the guests which seem to out-number the members by about 5 to 1 
are maybe newer or less experienced drivers who may feel intimidated by some of the pics/stories of some on here, European/Middle East etc, & the members like Bewick/Buzzer etc who have built their Companies up from nothing & are clearly very experienced/knowledgeable transport men who know their onions, & might feel they have nothing to say that will interest the rest of us. I have seen some comments/replies on here that are a bit short, sometimes sarcastic that can put some off, & that’s wrong & some need to think a bit more before they reply, but that’s Transport for you, we get a bit more cynical as we get older & see so many changes that clearly don’t improve the job, & we see the Industry we all know & on the whole have loved working in just disappearing up it’s own back-side with rules & regulations. If you are one of the guests then just post something, ask a question, & to others on here that may have seen this question asked before then remember there are 1000s of pages on here, you can’t expect someone new to read through them all before his 1st post, have a bit of patience.
Road Transport isn’t all about big flash fancy Scania/Volvo/DAFs etc, it is also about the bread & butter 4/6/8 -wheelers etc bombing round the country in & out of everywhere, if that’s what you drive/drove then tell us about it, I know I look back now with very fond memories of delivering furniture with my old Dodge 4-wheeler/Luton all over the UK, sleeping across the bench seat with blankets for curtains & my little primus that doubled as night heater & kettle, in fact I think more of those days than my driving Left-■■■■■■ Scania/MAN etc for the Dutch in Europe, so a lot of the people on here that have driven the Big-stuff etc might never have done what you do/did & may be interested in hearing about your working day/week, if you were driving a Tipper round Somerset/Dorset when someone else was driving a left-■■■■■■ F88 to ‘Aza-by-jaba-karaoke’, who cares it’s all Transport, you may have stopped in a particular Transport Café every day or every Tuesday & Thursday, great tell us, it could jog a memory that will put a smile on someone’s face, or trigger 3 pages of discussion/debate, this is a forum so everyone has the right to their opinion!
I have a new computer/printer now & still have lots of magazine’s etc up in the loft with pics I can post, so once ‘The dark-side’ God bless her has shown me how it all works I can hopefully stimulate some discussion/memories. Regards Chris
Well said Chris. I’d rather read about the bread and butter work than polished V8 nonsense.
Yes Chris, you hit the nail on the head there, I only drive a 7.5t or 4/6/8wheeler or I’ve only got my class two is often posted, there’s no need to apologise for driving a lorry that doesn’t bend in the middle. If that’s the case then you all better start apologising to me, as mine bends three times!
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My first whiff of diesel was as a passenger with my Dad in the fifties. I was a trailer mate later, but just as my HGV licence was obtainable my driving licence was “taken into protective custody”. I only had 2-3 years on the road, but the writing was on the wall by 1976 so I went back to engineering and never looked back. I’ve worked all over the world, but still have the love of lorries that I found about 1955. Nobody can take away my memories though it takes stories and pictures by the old school to remind me of those times gone by. I am gratefull that people like Paul Gee had the nous to take a camera with him and I salute each and all who stuck with the industry. Jim.
Afraid I’m one of the guests most of the time. Only tend to go on this old time forum and occasionally can only quickly look in so not worth logging in.
for what its worth some of the best posts on the whole of Trucknet are on this board. The level of knowledge of the industry and stories/pictures make it really interesting.
daleman:
Afraid I’m one of the guests most of the time. Only tend to go on this old time forum and occasionally can only quickly look in so not worth logging in.for what its worth some of the best posts on the whole of Trucknet are on this board. The level of knowledge of the industry and stories/pictures make it really interesting.
On behalf of many of the “Time served” members on TN “daleman” thank you ! But it’s called “Experience” which cannot be bought ! Thanks Bewick.
Experience is all but a shame there are those who never listen and learn from it.
I raise a glass in salute to all the " time served" members - those still with us thankfully and those passed who at least left us with a legacy of their words ie Saviem.
19/7/2017 at 10 pm, there are presently 125 guests looking in . Come on Lads & Lassies, some of you must have a story to tell etc 
. Regards Chris
Bewirk:
But it’s called “Experience” which cannot be bought ! Thanks Bewick.
I believe It is available in small journals from a certain Surrey Guru…
dave docwra:
Bewirk:
But it’s called “Experience” which cannot be bought ! Thanks Bewick.I believe It is available in small journals from a certain Surrey Guru…
Small? I understand rabbit is getting scarce in Sainsbury’s…