Why did British Leyland fail?

ramone:

Dave the Renegade:

ramone:
There`s a 1977 Octopus for sale in this months Classic Commercials magazine a few AECs a Super Comet 1968 and a GUY Big J with a 240 Gardner in it…sorry a 220 ■■■■■■■ :laughing:

ramone,The day of the 8LXB engined Big J pic being published is getting closer :laughing: .
Cheers Dave.

Im a nuetral Dave on this 1 just trying to inject a bit of humour,its a while since ive seen the interior of an ergo but the brown interior was all the rage

A relation of mine had a Marina with that interior colour too.

Muckaway:

ramone:

Dave the Renegade:

ramone:
There`s a 1977 Octopus for sale in this months Classic Commercials magazine a few AECs a Super Comet 1968 and a GUY Big J with a 240 Gardner in it…sorry a 220 ■■■■■■■ :laughing:

ramone,The day of the 8LXB engined Big J pic being published is getting closer :laughing: .
Cheers Dave.

Im a nuetral Dave on this 1 just trying to inject a bit of humour,its a while since ive seen the interior of an ergo but the brown interior was all the rage

A relation of mine had a Marina with that interior colour too.

F10s/F12s were too until late 88 model came out

When they fitted that plastic interior to the L12 Buffalo it was awful. With the big 12ltr lump it vibrated ,creaked,cracked and eventually broke. It used to make a horrible buzzing sound, we used to jam old cigarette packets in it to try and stop the noise !

Trev_H:
When they fitted that plastic interior to the L12 Buffalo it was awful. With the big 12ltr lump it vibrated ,creaked,cracked and eventually broke. It used to make a horrible buzzing sound, we used to jam old cigarette packets in it to try and stop the noise !

lol

fryske:
Here’s the rest of the interior - a fantastic old lorry


Leyland Bison interior by fryske, on Flickr

I wonder why it seem sto have a 401 steering wheel? I don’t remember meeting a Buffalo with a wheel like that , is it original, do you know?

240 Gardner:

fryske:
Here’s the rest of the interior - a fantastic old lorry


Leyland Bison interior by fryske, on Flickr

I wonder why it seem sto have a 401 steering wheel? I don’t remember meeting a Buffalo with a wheel like that , is it original, do you know?

I think all the late model Leyland ergos had that steering wheel,i remember a brand new Marathon JCP 49W that my dad drove just had a blank plastic cap in the centre of the wheel where the Leyland badge used to be,i think it was 1 of the last ones probably made at Watford and at £16000 with a E290 ■■■■■■■ in it was a bargain

ramone:

240 Gardner:

fryske:
Here’s the rest of the interior - a fantastic old lorry


Leyland Bison interior by fryske, on Flickr

I wonder why it seem sto have a 401 steering wheel? I don’t remember meeting a Buffalo with a wheel like that , is it original, do you know?

I think all the late model Leyland ergos had that steering wheel,i remember a brand new Marathon JCP 49W that my dad drove just had a blank plastic cap in the centre of the wheel where the Leyland badge used to be,i think it was 1 of the last ones probably made at Watford and at £16000 with a E290 ■■■■■■■ in it was a bargain

It looks like a Dodge Commando steering wheel

240 Gardner:

fryske:
Here’s the rest of the interior - a fantastic old lorry

I wonder why it seem sto have a 401 steering wheel? I don’t remember meeting a Buffalo with a wheel like that , is it original, do you know?

I imagine it is original - here’s a pic of another V reg Bison

And for comparison - a pic of a P reg interior

And a more weathered example

Roadtrains could sometimes be a little unreliable…

Anyone got a pic of a Constructor interior?

Muckaway:
Anyone got a pic of a Constructor interior?

What ages were they Friske? cab layout looks quite modern really…

Muckaway:
What ages were they Friske? cab layout looks quite modern really…

These are the vehicles they are from:



I think our Broadway quarry’s still got a (I think) H reg Constructor tanker as a fuel bowser.Is the mixer yours?

Muckaway:
I think our Broadway quarry’s still got a (I think) H reg Constructor tanker as a fuel bowser.Is the mixer yours?

No - none are mine - more’s the pity!

the Readymix one is actually a wrecker!

Have you any pics of the tanker?

richgriff:
Just like to say that our foreign cousins were not bombproof either. If ,having read the Astrans book by Ashley Coghill the great swedes were not prone to problems either.Being involved in the car industry now,if Rover had been subservient to Honda they would still be working today.The British lorry industry has never been supported by councils,Newport corporation have run Scanias since the 70s,they should be buying Dennis.In Vancouver prior to the Olympics on a ski lift I spotted a Plaxton bodied Dennis bus. Spoke to one of the locals and he confirmed they had a fleet of British Buses ,more flexible than they could get .Could anyone today have the balls to produce a new AEC,ERF. I would suggest that if Peter Foden could not make it pay,why bother ,heavy industry needs to have public backing,after all councils are using our money!!!!Accountability comes from the backing of British built prouducts.All I can say there will be a small number of producers in the next 20 years possibly 3.Make your minds up.All governments are cutting back,but with some old hauliers and designers Iam sure a lorry could be produced for the next fifty years.They redesigned the Mini,VW Beetle for this century,why not a Retro Scania 141,VolvoF88,more appeal than these modern faceless things.I would have included British Lorries but we dont produce anything,unless government and councils are obliged to buy the product we don`t have a chance . Go to France and they run Renault.Go to Germany and they run Mercedes.Go to Italy and they run Iveco.Go to Sweden and they run Scania.Go to Holland and they run Daf.Go to Britain (used to producee more lorries than any other country in the western world)we run the occasional Dennis dustcart.I rest my case.Regards Richard

I think you’ll find that most councils did buy British vehicles, Newport may be an exception, always use to see Foden gritters, plenty of Fords and Bedfords, you have to look at the overall cost, Joe public would soon be moaning if we still bought British only to find it was costing more in repairs.

Pebbles 74:

That bonnet top was just the right size for my dad’s ‘night out’ suitcase - happy days!

ramone:

240 Gardner:

fryske:
Here’s the rest of the interior - a fantastic old lorry


Leyland Bison interior by fryske, on Flickr

I wonder why it seem sto have a 401 steering wheel? I don’t remember meeting a Buffalo with a wheel like that , is it original, do you know?

I think all the late model Leyland ergos had that steering wheel,i remember a brand new Marathon JCP 49W that my dad drove just had a blank plastic cap in the centre of the wheel where the Leyland badge used to be,i think it was 1 of the last ones probably made at Watford and at £16000 with a E290 ■■■■■■■ in it was a bargain

Looks to be the same centre as the Sed Ak 400 that I drove as well, just missing the “mating snails”! :laughing:

Pete.

windrush:

ramone:

240 Gardner:

fryske:
Here’s the rest of the interior - a fantastic old lorry


Leyland Bison interior by fryske, on Flickr

I wonder why it seem sto have a 401 steering wheel? I don’t remember meeting a Buffalo with a wheel like that , is it original, do you know?

I think all the late model Leyland ergos had that steering wheel,i remember a brand new Marathon JCP 49W that my dad drove just had a blank plastic cap in the centre of the wheel where the Leyland badge used to be,i think it was 1 of the last ones probably made at Watford and at £16000 with a E290 ■■■■■■■ in it was a bargain

Looks to be the same centre as the Sed Ak 400 that I drove as well, just missing the “mating snails”! :laughing:

Pete.


Seddon Atkinson 400 cab interior by fryske, on Flickr

it must be a mass made steering wheel as its the same as my dads 81 d series

fryske:

240 Gardner:

fryske:
Here’s the rest of the interior - a fantastic old lorry

I wonder why it seem sto have a 401 steering wheel? I don’t remember meeting a Buffalo with a wheel like that , is it original, do you know?

I imagine it is original - here’s a pic of another V reg Bison

And for comparison - a pic of a P reg interior

And a more weathered example