Where's Harry?

Harry Monk:
It doesn’t use a great deal of AdBlue, a fill-up should easily last the week.

Fair enough, I’ve no experience of the stuff myself but I know one of the people I work for had DAF105s on bulk work and the tank on those wouldn’t last a week, they had an IBC of the stuff in the yard and the drivers all used to carry a can of the stuff with them to put in the tank towards the end of the week to get them home.

That said it’s less of an issue these days as more and more places have it on the pumps.

Paul

repton:

Harry Monk:
It doesn’t use a great deal of AdBlue, a fill-up should easily last the week.

That said it’s less of an issue these days as more and more places have it on the pumps.

Paul

Bot of course, if all else fails you could always resort to “Add Water”!!! :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Not recomended if you run anything still under warranty (especially a Scania) as they test the add blue to see if they can void any warranty claims if it’s been watered down, even though it’s an after treatment & doesn’t have any effect on engine systems, they will always try to void your claim on an engine failure!!!

Ross.

One bit of advice I would give about AdBlue if you ever need it is that it’s around 65p a litre from a pump, and about £1.30 a litre in a 10 litre plastic container from the garage, so avoid those as far as possible.

bigr250:
Bot of course, if all else fails you could always resort to “Add Water”!!! :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Not recomended if you run anything still under warranty (especially a Scania) as they test the add blue to see if they can void any warranty claims if it’s been watered down, even though it’s an after treatment & doesn’t have any effect on engine systems, they will always try to void your claim on an engine failure!!!

I wouldn’t ever put water in an ad-blue tank personally, someone I know of did it on a 105XF and within half an hour the warning light on the dash for the ad-blue system had come on and it ended up costing several grand to repair.

Paul

Harry Monk:
One bit of advice I would give about AdBlue if you ever need it is that it’s around 65p a litre from a pump, and about £1.30 a litre in a 10 litre plastic container from the garage, so avoid those as far as possible.

and about 35ppl in IBC’s

be careful using a fuelcard to buy it at the pumps, some may add a 25% admin fee :imp:

Switch the add blue off .can be done with no faults and all codes removed with truck running perfect!

Harry Monk:
After fuel costs I would say that I was pretty much bang on your target of £1,500. I will be able to do more in-depth calculations next week, one of the important things I need to calculate is the cost of running London-Exeter via the A303 or the M4/M5 as I will be doing that run a fair bit. I suspect the longer route will be cheaper though, and will definitely be easier on the truck.

Hi Harry I do that run regulary the 303 route is shorter mileage wise, but time wise the M4 M5 route is the same time and a lot easier on the truck,and me as the driver.And you have’nt got the speed cameras and slow moving farm tractors to contend with.Also this time of year the wibley wobleys (caravans).I clocked the mileage difference about 35 miles.
I wish you luck with your new venture and hope the Truck does you well.I’ll keep my eyes open for you so if you see a black Magnum pulling a container flashing you it’s probably me.

Welshman:
Hi Harry I do that run regulary the 303 route is shorter mileage wise, but time wise the M4 M5 route is the same time and a lot easier on the truck,and me as the driver.And you have’nt got the speed cameras and slow moving farm tractors to contend with.Also this time of year the wibley wobleys (caravans).I clocked the mileage difference about 35 miles.
I wish you luck with your new venture and hope the Truck does you well.I’ll keep my eyes open for you so if you see a black Magnum pulling a container flashing you it’s probably me.

T

Ta, that fits in with my thoughts, if I see you I’ll give you a wave!

i’ve been following your progress for quite a while, and wow, you seem to have fallen on your feet with this one. just keep it going as so far your proving the 2 mars bar’s and £1 a mile people wrong. as people say the hater’s are gonna hate, so mr monk you sir are proving all these people wrong. and i’d/we would all love to see a diary from you.

It looks a tidy old yoke Harry, my only concern would be the aftermarket fuel tanks, if you get a pull in France. They have been a bit keen on them over the last few years

repton:

bigr250:
Bot of course, if all else fails you could always resort to “Add Water”!!! :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Not recomended if you run anything still under warranty (especially a Scania) as they test the add blue to see if they can void any warranty claims if it’s been watered down, even though it’s an after treatment & doesn’t have any effect on engine systems, they will always try to void your claim on an engine failure!!!

I wouldn’t ever put water in an ad-blue tank personally, someone I know of did it on a 105XF and within half an hour the warning light on the dash for the ad-blue system had come on and it ended up costing several grand to repair.

Paul

Your choice entirely Paul but there’s nothing in an Add Blue system that could sense water in the system as Add Blue is miscible and water will mix totally with the contents of the tank and there’s certainly nothing in the system that would be damaged by water. The most likely explanation of your friends warning light is that he’s used a dirty container & put some ‘solid contamination’ into the tank that a sensor picked up as it’s gone through, probably due to blocking something in the dosing system. I know plenty of people who run 50/50 all the time without problems so your mates “several grand” repair will probably be due to either a pre-existing problem or a rip off dealer having your mates ‘keks off’.

Ross.

Wheel Nut:
It looks a tidy old yoke Harry, my only concern would be the aftermarket fuel tanks, if you get a pull in France. They have been a bit keen on them over the last few years

I know, but each tank has a eu Type Approval sticker relating to it stuck in the driver’s door shut so I’m thinking that, and the fact that I can speak pretty good French should let me muddle through…

bigr250:

repton:

bigr250:
Bot of course, if all else fails you could always resort to “Add Water”!!! :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Not recomended if you run anything still under warranty (especially a Scania) as they test the add blue to see if they can void any warranty claims if it’s been watered down, even though it’s an after treatment & doesn’t have any effect on engine systems, they will always try to void your claim on an engine failure!!!

I wouldn’t ever put water in an ad-blue tank personally, someone I know of did it on a 105XF and within half an hour the warning light on the dash for the ad-blue system had come on and it ended up costing several grand to repair.

Paul

Your choice entirely Paul but there’s nothing in an Add Blue system that could sense water in the system as Add Blue is miscible and water will mix totally with the contents of the tank and there’s certainly nothing in the system that would be damaged by water. The most likely explanation of your friends warning light is that he’s used a dirty container & put some ‘solid contamination’ into the tank that a sensor picked up as it’s gone through, probably due to blocking something in the dosing system. I know plenty of people who run 50/50 all the time without problems so your mates “several grand” repair will probably be due to either a pre-existing problem or a rip off dealer having your mates ‘keks off’.

Ross.

Isn’t there a sensor after the catalyst that picks up the amount of Ammonia in the system? Ammonia is a by product of the exhaust gas/Ad Blue mix and the amount increases with the amount of Ad Blue used, so if the sensors pick up that the ammonia level is reduced, yet it has thrown enough Ad Blue at it, then you’ll start throwing codes and set off the warning lights?

Harry Monk:

Wheel Nut:
It looks a tidy old yoke Harry, my only concern would be the aftermarket fuel tanks, if you get a pull in France. They have been a bit keen on them over the last few years

I know, but each tank has a eu Type Approval sticker relating to it stuck in the driver’s door shut so I’m thinking that, and the fact that I can speak pretty good French should let me muddle through…

We’ve got an Volvo rigid with an aftermarket tank on it H. It has a Volvo cap though and the eu type approved stamp on it. Occasionally a sharp Gendarme/Guardia will smile and march over to it but they seem happy with the genuine cap let alone the stamp :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

newmercman:
Isn’t there a sensor after the catalyst that picks up the amount of Ammonia in the system? Ammonia is a by product of the exhaust gas/Ad Blue mix and the amount increases with the amount of Ad Blue used, so if the sensors pick up that the ammonia level is reduced, yet it has thrown enough Ad Blue at it, then you’ll start throwing codes and set off the warning lights?

The only electronic sensor downstream of the turbo (that I know of) would be an EGT sensor (exhaust gas temp’) which certainly wont detect amonia levels, a good mate of mine has a Scania 480 which has had the system doctored to only dose adblue as if the engine was on tick over & he’s never had any warning lights on in almost 2 years. Oh, & he runs 50/50 as well!!

Ross.

Harry Monk:

Wheel Nut:
It looks a tidy old yoke Harry, my only concern would be the aftermarket fuel tanks, if you get a pull in France. They have been a bit keen on them over the last few years

I know, but each tank has a eu Type Approval sticker relating to it stuck in the driver’s door shut so I’m thinking that, and the fact that I can speak pretty good French should let me muddle through…

A thought provoking thread. And a spot on answer :laughing:

The sensors in the exhaust box contraption that detect NoX and all the rest of the naughty stuff should pick up that the thing isn’t working properly, the Euro6 engines will also have EGR that will be controlled by sensors all over the show, prepare for headaches galore with that crap, it’s been running on North American engines for the last three years in the specs you’ll be getting and none of the manufacturers has got it right yet :unamused:

Keep this thread on topic people!

Where’s Harry!?

Everybody guess once a day, and the winner gets ■■■■■ all.

ibson:
Keep this thread on topic people!

Why change the habbits of a lifetime??

Ross.

ibson:
Keep this thread on topic people!

Where’s Harry!?

Everybody guess once a day, and the winner gets [zb] all.

I don’t actually believe that Harry is an O/D anyway, he’s supposedly been at it for over a week now, all we got was a picture of a Green Renault, until I see the evidence of at least one Mars Bar I remain in doubt :wink: