What were you doing 40 years ago

[bewick]

georgeking:

Saviem:

Bewick:
Well Dave,not wishing to “pontificate”,which of course I never do !! The Industry has screwed itself IMO and no one else is to blame,if they had just stuck to the simple “rational” of keeping,say,% of fuel costs to earnings of something like 20/25 % the industry would still be fairly viable,but being a much fragmented industry this hasn’t happened so we now have the “race to the bottom” !! Cheers Dennis.

Dennis, from the bottom of a very deep glass, and totally immersed in another industry, farming, that is seeking to destroy itself, on the alter of "best for the “end user and let us all produce cheaper”, I could not agree more with your sentiments.

Road Haulage was in its death throes when we both knew it, now…oh dear, I cannot find words to articulate its demise. Mrs Castle was the first knife, then it has been a steady decline, and what is more sad, the industry “voice”, the RHA, has been the biggest contributor to its demise, what a bunch of self serving no hoper`s, …and you can count in the dead heads… at the T&GWU as another self serving bunch of nobodies!!

You know the thing that I loved about the French Industry, (and believe me it had its faults), but the participants had a modicum of business knowledge, gained through their education. Here…6spotlights, a cab mural, and you are in!!! …Oh spare me!!

From manufacturers of vehicles, to the end user, you have all, through your fragmented efforts destroyed a great industry, race for the bottom is apposite, ney, now all are seeking to tunnel below the bottom!

Wish to dispute what Dennis and I say…well I`ve the boring figures at my finger tips, but they tell the true picture, and 40 years ago I had just sold a Rolls Powered Borderer, and made £1200 clear profit, 25% margin, what have the current sellers made on a new chassis in % terms■■?

Now I must leave you, to check if my good lady has completed all the bobbles to go on my caps…then I can look like Victor Meldrew as well as sound like him!!!

Cheerio for now.

1000

A classic statement totally agree with you.

From a business point of view I would not touch road haulage with a barge pool, however there is one company, I know very well that makes a huge a amount of profit in road haulage but they appear to be unique.

Oh! not another ESL “promoter” please !!!

[georgeking]

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[acd1202]

georgeking:

Bewick:

georgeking:

Saviem:

Bewick:
Well Dave,not wishing to “pontificate”,which of course I never do !! The Industry has screwed itself IMO and no one else is to blame,if they had just stuck to the simple “rational” of keeping,say,% of fuel costs to earnings of something like 20/25 % the industry would still be fairly viable,but being a much fragmented industry this hasn’t happened so we now have the “race to the bottom” !! Cheers Dennis.

Dennis, from the bottom of a very deep glass, and totally immersed in another industry, farming, that is seeking to destroy itself, on the alter of "best for the “end user and let us all produce cheaper”, I could not agree more with your sentiments.

Road Haulage was in its death throes when we both knew it, now…oh dear, I cannot find words to articulate its demise. Mrs Castle was the first knife, then it has been a steady decline, and what is more sad, the industry “voice”, the RHA, has been the biggest contributor to its demise, what a bunch of self serving no hoper`s, …and you can count in the dead heads… at the T&GWU as another self serving bunch of nobodies!!

You know the thing that I loved about the French Industry, (and believe me it had its faults), but the participants had a modicum of business knowledge, gained through their education. Here…6spotlights, a cab mural, and you are in!!! …Oh spare me!!

From manufacturers of vehicles, to the end user, you have all, through your fragmented efforts destroyed a great industry, race for the bottom is apposite, ney, now all are seeking to tunnel below the bottom!

Wish to dispute what Dennis and I say…well I`ve the boring figures at my finger tips, but they tell the true picture, and 40 years ago I had just sold a Rolls Powered Borderer, and made £1200 clear profit, 25% margin, what have the current sellers made on a new chassis in % terms■■?

Now I must leave you, to check if my good lady has completed all the bobbles to go on my caps…then I can look like Victor Meldrew as well as sound like him!!!

Cheerio for now.

1000

A classic statement totally agree with you.

From a business point of view I would not touch road haulage with a barge pool, however there is one company, I know very well that makes a huge a amount of profit in road haulage but they appear to be unique.

Oh! not another ESL “promoter” please !!!

Not ESL,the jury is still out on them.

I thought the jury returned its verdict on ESL years ago, I won’t be buying any shares. Although this 5.5% bond looks OK. There is certainly an outfit from Halifax whose accounts indicate profit levels in line with the good old days, but not a curtainsider or tipper in sight.

[toxic_gas_man]

I think that might be COLLETTS? Ted.

[harry_gill]

hiya,
Someone said stick your brass in “Bert Dressingtable” supposed to be standing canny.
thanks harry, long retired.

[retired_old_fart]

If you really want to put your money into propping up the frogs, Harry…

[dave_the_renegade]

Bewick:
Well Dave,not wishing to “pontificate”,which of course I never do !! The Industry has screwed itself IMO and no one else is to blame,if they had just stuck to the simple “rational” of keeping,say,% of fuel costs to earnings of something like 20/25 % the industry would still be fairly viable,but being a much fragmented industry this hasn’t happened so we now have the “race to the bottom” !! Cheers Dennis.

I was just making a comparison on what Larry’s artic was making in 1972 profit wise Dennis,and what a top weight artic tipper would make nowadays with a much bigger outlay.Very little I would say.
There was rate cutting going on back in the 1960’s when I started driving,and its spiralled from there into the fiasco we have these days.
Cheers Dave.

[harry_gill]

Retired Old ■■■■:
If you really want to put your money into propping up the frogs, Harry…

hiya,
No problem ROF I’ve got nowt to invest, but if I had and I could
make money out of the “frogs” and make nowt out of the Brits
it would be no contest and to hell with being patriotic.
thanks harry, long retired.

[bewick]

Retired Old ■■■■:
If you really want to put your money into propping up the frogs, Harry…

Only thing “H” will need to “prop up” now is the Bar in Newcastle Labour Club,or is there No Standing at bar in the Lounge ? Cheers Dennis.

[harry_gill]

Bewick:

Retired Old ■■■■:
If you really want to put your money into propping up the frogs, Harry…

Only thing “H” will need to “prop up” now is the Bar in Newcastle Labour Club,or is there No Standing at bar in the Lounge ? Cheers Dennis.

hiya,
Dennis if your capable of standing you can stand where you like.
thanks harry, long retired.

[tracker6666]

40 years ago this week I was starting out on my first trip for Astran then called Asian Transport destination Tehran

[greek]

Driving buses 70/74, before that Thames Trader /Tks & D type fords ,Heavy goods tests had just come in a couple of months before my 21st but they wouldnt fiddle my grandfather rights so went on the buses til 25 then took my Class 1 & still at it

[erfguy]

Driving for McMurdo at that time my trusty steed was a 63 B reg Micky Mouse Foden it had a transplanted 150 Gardner fitted in place of a mark 6 twostroke the driver of which at the time apparently used to remove shims out of the fuel pump and it then had a top speed in the high eightys, nice and a hellava change from the sedate 52 with the Gardner but the two stroke hadny been happy wie gettin thrashed and had protested by frequently blowing head gaskets hence the transplant.I got a new S39 on 3rd jan.1973 180 Gardner the speed went up by a mind blowing 3mph to 55.At the time we were pulling vans and mainly doing carpets out of the factory at Sanquhar these mainly went to Eptons at Boston who shipped them to Sweden some went to Grimsby for shipment to Iceland so we nomally did three a week down the A1.Our other work was cheese out of the Creamery at Sanquhar mainly to Kraft Foods at Kirby Liverpool being the days when you werent required to take cheese in a fridge it was all flat work with steel being our main work back up. Eddie.

[gonzothejaffa1]

swimming round in my mums belly and giving her heartburn and a thing for ketchup butties

[frankg]

I’d just joined Reardons of Liverpool run by John senior,before that I was with Thomas Wilson of Canal Street Bootlle for 4 years after leaving the army.It was one of the best firms Ive ever worked for,Peter Reynolds got me the job.where is he now? I,ll bet hes still driving.From there to Transfreeze,Steerside,Proctors,Dukes what a cowboy firm.Bussinks and then finaly Westbrook Pkg till I retired /// not.

[erf]

LB76:
I just hope that someday someone will post a picture of that Cobden’s lorry , may be it’s worth a trawl through thw local AEC dealer, do you know who they were in somerset?

Well, just for you Bill …

JH Cobden - OFJ 472G - AEC Mandator V8 (2VTG4R) High Datum, AVM8-801 engine.

[lb76]

Thanks for that mate! been a long time since i was in Boulogne with the driver!

[erf]

LB76:
Thanks for that mate! been a long time since i was in Boulogne with the driver!

Not a problem Bill.
I guess you could have known this poor guy too…
thisissomerset.co.uk/loved-d … z2PF1Eu2FR

[barkingbill]

40 years ago had a F88 drawbar for Kestrels of Barking waiting to get on Cowards at north wield

[cattle_wagon_man]

Forty years ago, and I`d just started-out with this new Karrier Bantam.
After suffering repeated fuel problems in its first 2 months, it then became a
sturdy , albeit slow, workhorse around the north of England.

Cheers, cattle wagon man.