Don’t forget your weeks of annual leave count as 48 hours also so average still needs to be 48 hours.
ytrehodluap:
norm:
I’m trying to figure out how Waitrose are quoting the max salary on offer for this job as £53,262 when the max hourly rate is advertised as £16.25/hour.jlpjobs.com/search-jobs/lgv … ver-39498/
Salary £13.00 - £16.25
Salary Frequency Hourly
Hours of Work 47.5 to include weekends
Total Annual pay: £43,794 - £ 53,262Assuming 4 weeks of annual leave per year, spread out equally across the two WTD reference periods, you could conceivably do 52 hour weeks and keep within the allowed 48 hour average.
Don’t forget your weeks of annual leave count as 48 hours also so average still needs to be 48 hoursSo 52 x £16.25 = £845/week x 52 = £43,940/year
Any clues?
The advertised job is actually for John Lewis and not Waitrose, and although it’s the same company, pay rates may be slightly different.
The hourly rate does not look right to me so its possible that this doesn’t include the recent £2 per hour increase.
Also the hours must include some overtime as Waitrose 5 day week is 43 hours basic so I would assume it includes 4.5 hours at time + 1/2 or double time
Pay rates will also have shift allowance on top which I believe is 20% for pm shift
All of this clearly makes 53k about right and if you add on things like pension and other benefits then it could be considerably more.
JeffA:
If anyone is really thinking the tories are going to stand against the bosses and for a decent wage you are dreaming. The tories want wages as low as they can go - their whole economic philosophy depends on it. They just cant turn round and bring back hundreds of thousands of Ees just yet because it would be terrible for the image.Remember how cheif brexiterr Tim Martin treated his workers - sacked the bloody lot and said go work for tesco. Do you really think Timmy boy was expecting to have to pay his drivers more after brexit? Laughable
But why would the Tories want employees to be on low wages? Why would they, or anyone benefit from that? The Tories are about private businesses. If an employee gets higher pay, they have more disposable income, which strengthens the economy. The more people earn, the more tax they pay.So the treasury gets money back in VAT from the goods we buy and tax. Surely that benefits them ?
norm:
I’m trying to figure out how Waitrose are quoting the max salary on offer for this job as £53,262 when the max hourly rate is advertised as £16.25/hour.jlpjobs.com/search-jobs/lgv … ver-39498/
Salary £13.00 - £16.25
Salary Frequency Hourly
Hours of Work 47.5 to include weekends
Total Annual pay: £43,794 - £ 53,262Assuming 4 weeks of annual leave per year, spread out equally across the two WTD reference periods, you could conceivably do 52 hour weeks and keep within the allowed 48 hour average.
So 52 x £16.25 = £845/week x 52 = £43,940/year
Any clues?
“New LGV drivers joining the business before November to support the Partnership through peak will recieve a welcome payment of £1,000, payable at the end of January 2022.”
I’d say if you’re still there January when you started before November - you’ve already overstayed your welcome!
Winseer:
norm:
I’m trying to figure out how Waitrose are quoting the max salary on offer for this job as £53,262 when the max hourly rate is advertised as £16.25/hour.jlpjobs.com/search-jobs/lgv … ver-39498/
Salary £13.00 - £16.25
“New LGV drivers joining the business before November to support the Partnership through peak will recieve a welcome payment of £1,000, payable at the end of January 2022.”
I’d say if you’re still there January when you started before November - you’ve already overstayed your welcome!
I don’t even have an up to date LGV licence but I’d pay them a grand out of the money earn’t driving cars ‘not’ to drive a truck in the distribution sector and they can have the cash in their bank before Christmas 2021.
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Winseer:
norm:
I’m trying to figure out how Waitrose are quoting the max salary on offer for this job as £53,262 when the max hourly rate is advertised as £16.25/hour.jlpjobs.com/search-jobs/lgv … ver-39498/
Salary £13.00 - £16.25
Salary Frequency Hourly
Hours of Work 47.5 to include weekends
Total Annual pay: £43,794 - £ 53,262Assuming 4 weeks of annual leave per year, spread out equally across the two WTD reference periods, you could conceivably do 52 hour weeks and keep within the allowed 48 hour average.
So 52 x £16.25 = £845/week x 52 = £43,940/year
Any clues?
“New LGV drivers joining the business before November to support the Partnership through peak will recieve a welcome payment of £1,000, payable at the end of January 2022.”
I’d say if you’re still there January when you started before November - you’ve already overstayed your welcome!
Do they not like long term staff then?
osark:
Doesn’t anything above £50,271.00 falls into a 40% income tax?
Yes - but the higher tax rate only applies to the small amount over that figure. Plus of course you can opt to make AVCs into your pension pot to put more of your salary outside the scope of tax.
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RogerOut:
Winseer:
I’d say if you’re still there January when you started before November - you’ve already overstayed your welcome!Do they not like long term staff then?
They do, its just Winseer gets banned from everywhere he works so he never stays “long term”
adam277:
Winseer:
cav551:
Err, how many U turns have this lot made? I’ve lost count, so I’m not relying upon them ruling out another specifically on this very issue.It will all be about the spin.With my phone ringing off the hook at the end of July, - Waitrose who stood me down April 1st last year - never grovelled to get me back on a seat again… I guess they cannot be that short of drivers then… Yet!
I still get texts from Staffline touting hourly rates north of £20ph - but of course, that doesn’t include me, but CAN include those with no experience and six points on their licence, apparently…
Winseer you ever done Argos out of Basildon?
I done one day but was really put off by the security searching your bag everyday and checking your phone. Also the whiteboarding. (Having multiple runs planned for you at the start of the day, instead of getting back to the yard then seeing what you can do with what hours you have left).
i got banned for life from argos at basildon 5 years ago because they thought after being sat for 6 hours and asking for the paperwork for the load back as i was pulling out was me threatening them, they called the supplier to complain about me to be told WE (the supplier)told the driver to get the paperwork and pull out, was nice of them too throw the paperwork at me then refused to give a code for the barrier to get out, another call to the boss led to the police turning up. ended up about 3 hours over hours if i remember rightly, police officer said it wasnt the first time they had been in there to get drivers out.
Did the old bill put chalk marks on your tyres and tell you to have a 9 off ? 
Suedehead:
Did the old bill put chalk marks on your tyres and tell you to have a 9 off ?
alas not they took me outside and parked me on the road outside and signed a printout.
Were there any cones involved and stern words with fork-lift truck drivers about not using their horns?
scotstrucker:
adam277:
Winseer:
cav551:
Err, how many U turns have this lot made? I’ve lost count, so I’m not relying upon them ruling out another specifically on this very issue.It will all be about the spin.With my phone ringing off the hook at the end of July, - Waitrose who stood me down April 1st last year - never grovelled to get me back on a seat again… I guess they cannot be that short of drivers then… Yet!
I still get texts from Staffline touting hourly rates north of £20ph - but of course, that doesn’t include me, but CAN include those with no experience and six points on their licence, apparently…
Winseer you ever done Argos out of Basildon?
I done one day but was really put off by the security searching your bag everyday and checking your phone. Also the whiteboarding. (Having multiple runs planned for you at the start of the day, instead of getting back to the yard then seeing what you can do with what hours you have left).i got banned for life from argos at basildon 5 years ago because they thought after being sat for 6 hours and asking for the paperwork for the load back as i was pulling out was me threatening them, they called the supplier to complain about me to be told WE (the supplier)told the driver to get the paperwork and pull out, was nice of them too throw the paperwork at me then refused to give a code for the barrier to get out, another call to the boss led to the police turning up. ended up about 3 hours over hours if i remember rightly, police officer said it wasnt the first time they had been in there to get drivers out.
You didn’t get banned for the paperwork tho - it was for knocking out the transport manager and headbutting the police officer who dragged you off him.
cav551:
^^^^
This.Big money has a vested interest and lobby groups to keep badgering HMG to give way on this.
So far I have seen absolutely nothing in any comment anywhere about the disgracful practice companies have of writing into employment contracts that the driver will in effect be liable to pay the insurance excess, in the event of damage to the vehicle, and this will be deducted from wages and not from any bonus payments.
Its legal if its written into a contract, but, they can’t make your weekly wage go below minimum wage.
Stephenjp:
cav551:
^^^^
This.Big money has a vested interest and lobby groups to keep badgering HMG to give way on this.
So far I have seen absolutely nothing in any comment anywhere about the disgracful practice companies have of writing into employment contracts that the driver will in effect be liable to pay the insurance excess, in the event of damage to the vehicle, and this will be deducted from wages and not from any bonus payments.
Its legal if its written into a contract, but, they can’t make your weekly wage go below minimum wage.
I’m not convinced.
It could be argued it is an unfair term or condition.
I would like to believe a judge would not hold a PAYE driver responsible for paying an unknown excess on a company insurance policy for a road traffic collision etc.
You can write anything you want in to a contract but not everything signed up to is legally enforceable.
It is certainly a good reason to make sure you read new contracts in full, in your own time, before joining a new company.
ScaniaUltimate:
Stephenjp:
cav551:
^^^^
This.Big money has a vested interest and lobby groups to keep badgering HMG to give way on this.
So far I have seen absolutely nothing in any comment anywhere about the disgracful practice companies have of writing into employment contracts that the driver will in effect be liable to pay the insurance excess, in the event of damage to the vehicle, and this will be deducted from wages and not from any bonus payments.
Its legal if its written into a contract, but, they can’t make your weekly wage go below minimum wage.
I’m not convinced.
It could be argued it is an unfair term or condition.
I would like to believe a judge would not hold a PAYE driver responsible for paying an unknown excess on a company insurance policy for a road traffic collision etc.You can write anything you want in to a contract but not everything signed up to is legally enforceable.
It is certainly a good reason to make sure you read new contracts in full, in your own time, before joining a new company.
gov.uk/understanding-your-p … m-your-pay
Deductions from your pay
Your employer is not allowed to make deductions unless:
it’s required or allowed by law, for example National Insurance, income tax or student loan repayments
you agree in writing
your contract says they can
there’s a statutory payment due to a public authority
you have not worked due to taking part in a strike or industrial action
there’s been an earlier overpayment of wages or expenses
it’s a result of a court order
Stephenjp:
gov.uk/understanding-your-p … m-your-payDeductions from your pay
Your employer is not allowed to make deductions unless:it’s required or allowed by law, for example National Insurance, income tax or student loan repayments
you agree in writing
your contract says they can
there’s a statutory payment due to a public authority
you have not worked due to taking part in a strike or industrial action
there’s been an earlier overpayment of wages or expenses
it’s a result of a court order
Thanks for the enlightenment.
I will certainly make sure I never sign up to anything that allows an employer to do so.
I would previously have relied upon it not being enforceable but I shall certainly take it more seriously now.
I hope the current market conditions encourage others to do the same whilst we have some choice over who we work for.
No problem, I’ve learnt from passed experience with contracts, management can always turn it to their advantage!! Read everything before signing and don’t sign if you dont agree or want to be bound!!