W.H.WILLIAMS (spennymoor)

I’m sure we all realise the power of the internet, and how trucknet spreads and helps us pick up old friends and workmates.

Some time ago I explained how during the early sixties Temp Newton sign wrote severa vans for us. One of these was 367MPT which Eddie Worthington has so kindly submitted photos he took in Scitland in 1963. I explained about how Temp signwrote Dents transport Atkinsons and Kenny Johnson exchanged various posts on the subject.

Strange as it seems Temp Newton’s wife has sent me an email telling me more about the later detais of his life.

I was married to Temp for over 32 years, till his death in 2004. He was
almost 74 years old then and had been in poor health for some time. He died
in San Antonio, Texas after a very successful career as a faux painter and
artist in the US. Before that he had taken a crew to London after his
business in Spennymoor failed. He worked for a year at Earl Spencer’s
house, Althorp, before Princess Diana married Prince Charles and also for
the Duke of Wesminster in London and then we emigrated. I remember his
stories of how he sign painted Dent’s trucks and vans. I have photos
somewhere of some of them and his pub signs too.
He worked on the homes of some of the rich and famous in this country,
although like most of us, he had good times and bad. Generally his health
caused him problems, he had both hips replaced over a 10 year period. But
he worked in Beverly Hills, and Las Vegas and many other states. His last
big job was a dome 30 foot across in the entry way to a 30,000 sq ft
mansion. He did it in two different colours of gold leaf and platinum leaf.
He designed an intricate pattern for it which took him two months to do
with prep work included. Fortunately, it was completely scaffolded and
floored for him. When he finished he said that was it for him with site
work. His hip was failing and he needed the other operation. After that we
moved to San Antonio and he enjoyed a quieter life painting and drawing and
learning to play the guitar. He loved to paint in oils and he sold some of
his work when we lived in Utah and later at an exhibition in Santa Fe, New
Mexico.
Thank you for thinking about him. I hope this fills in a gap? I know he was
very gifted in his work. Once in Beverly Hills, he was doing a wall in faux
marble and he heard the men who were laying the marble floor come into the
large hallway. He was around a corner chuckling at them, when one man asked
who was supplying the marble beside them? The other man told him it wasn’t
real, a guy from England was painting it onto the wall. The first man had
to touch it to believe him, he was so good at it!

Hi Carl…still not sure how this site works, I asked if Gordon Ball lived at Ferryhill is name seems to ring a Ball :laughing: sure I know him, I then put another couple of postson, but when I return I can not find them ?.
Temp Newton was a great bloke and his wife, if she reads this she may remember when she and Temp moved from the new house at the bottom of Tudhoe Village I was on that removal, If I am not mistaken I think there was one or two drawings on the wall of her, done by Temp think she was a teacher, anyway all the best Mrs Newton if you read this. Carl on another note about Tudhoe Village on the other side of where Temp lived and a touch further down was Arthur Crissops, he did a lot of welding work etc, I was on the wagon when we collected the gates for the compound next to the garage in Marmaduke Street, and they are still standing.
Eddie

edworth:
Hi Carl…still not sure how this site works, I asked if Gordon Ball lived at Ferryhill is name seems to ring a Ball :laughing: sure I know him, I then put another couple of postson, but when I return I can not find them ?.
Temp Newton was a great bloke and his wife, if she reads this she may remember when she and Temp moved from the new house at the bottom of Tudhoe Village I was on that removal, If I am not mistaken I think there was one or two drawings on the wall of her, done by Temp think she was a teacher, anyway all the best Mrs Newton if you read this. Carl on another note about Tudhoe Village on the other side of where Temp lived and a touch further down was Arthur Crissops, he did a lot of welding work etc, I was on the wagon when we collected the gates for the compound next to the garage in Marmaduke Street, and they are still standing.
Eddie

Hi Eddie,

Gordon Ball lives in Ferryhill and drove BUP312F for years. He married Christine Edes in 1979 who worked as Removal Clerk, dealing with removal enquiries, estimates and bookings for years in the office in Green Lane.I think they divorsed whie they still worked for us. I’m sure yu will remember him.

I remember going down to Crissops many times at the bottom of Tudhoe on left hand side, as they did a lot of welding for us, and they were excellent.They made a pair of wrought iron gates that filled a gap between the double garage that we built and the integral garage at Cotswolds my dad’s home in Cornforth before he moved to Durham. They were very heavy duty wrought iron and George Bolam, the Sedgefield Butcher who bought Cotswolds still have them there today and i know they will still be as good as the day they were assembled.

Here is another post Gordn Ball sent me by facebook

On one occasion in London @ traffic lights from what I remember was four Police Motorcyclists whizzing fast from left to right not unusual in London but on the news a little later it was mentioned that a Policewoman (Yvonne Fletcher) had been shot @ an Embassy.

Carl Williams:
Gordon Ball says he is still having difficuty getting onto the site and has sent me tis message that I am adding

Gordon BallCarl Williams
I remember around 1974 while driving BUP312F on the M1 @ jun 13 when there was a 200 vehicle pileup utter madness but i was @ the tail end of it luckily.
The next day i drove over that junction from Bletchley to Bedford ahead of me a stationary London Brick wagon as i was overtaking him which was just before a X roads he pulled out crashing into my vehicle ripping the side of the cab out.
I was told by the office to wait the night for Mr Williams to see me & the damage the next day then booked into a pub in a village a mile away they showed me to my room upstairs & said we will see you in the eating area as soon as i was ready so i went downstairs awhile later only to be confronted by a huge alsation dog in the bar he stood on his hind legs both paws either side of my head & put his teeth gently into my shoulder letting me know he was boss my sounds of panic alerted the landlord he quickley said the restaurant is upstairs, now he tells me.Let me say a day to test the old nerves.

Hi Gordon,
It would have been unusual for dad to come down and I can only think, for one reason or another he must have been in that area, which would explain why he hadn’t spoken to you directly on the phone. Usually he would have simply asked whether or not it was drivable, and if not he would have sent someone like Raymond Russell dw with the breakdown, which would then have been the RL to tie the cab up and bring it back.

Presumably dad would have looked at it to decide whether we could do the repair at Spennymoor, or if the van needed taking to Marsden at Warrington for them to repair. I cannot remember BUP having any cab damage (my memory plays tricks with me) so I cannot remember where it was repaired. You certainly did some miles with BUP over several years, and I cannot remember you driving anything else. Presumably you will have been offered or given a younger van. Can you remember what else you drove apart from BUP or did you choose to keep it, as with the integral cab it offered good sleeping accomodation.

Hope yu ca see the photos on the site now

Best wishes
Carl

Carl Williams:
Godon Ball has sent me another post

While doing deliveries from Thorn EMI we covered all ministry places all Prisons, hospitals, military camps & even Buckingham Palace on multidrops in London, I remember parking my truck next to the Gold Coach in the Royal Mews & a lady sitting on what looked a large Hoover. She was sweeping horse ■■■ into it better than a brush, I suppose… I had a substandard fridge freezer for an ex miliatry man, who I suppose was a body guard. After I got the Fridge freezer out of the van he pulled out of his pocket a bundle of notes and gave me a ten bob note. A bit of a disappointment.

Hi Gordon,
That would have made an excellent photo, if you could have got the Gold Coach with BUP in the backgound.

Over the years, we have delivered furniture and white goods to Downing Street, Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Sandringham and Balmoral and unfortunatly never any photos, but in those days we never had time to think abut photos.

I always remember the story told by another driver, (I cannot remember who) when he was delivering to Eton colledge and one of the pupils asked if he could give him a lift up to Spennymoor as he wanted to travel to Newcastle. ‘If your father can afford you to come here, he can afford the train fare’ , came the reply.

However Gordon, you will remember working with our own close relative of the royal family, Caroline Vane, Lord Barnard’s daughter, and I am sure you will agree with me a nicer person you never could meet.

If you can remember any names of any you worked with including office staff please tell me their names as it would help as I am trying to make a list of all ex employees.

Also if ever you speak or meet anyone who worked at WHW please tell them about this site and ask them to get in touch with me.

Best wishes

Carl

edworth:
Hi Carl…Need my memory jogging about this guy who lost his licence etc, the only one I can remember was Bill Bailey (Whoops) :laughing: your uncle Jim was not slow, he never started, God it was like extracting teeth sat in with him, he would all of a sudden put his foot down (you would think Great) then when he got to about 28mph he would ease off and slow down, then put is foot down again, Myself and Dale Harrison (think it was Dale this time and not Peter) did a removal with your uncle jim, he only drove and we had to do the removal, it was over the lakes near Coniston around the time Donald Cambell got killed, and by the time we got back it was about 3.30am in the morning, whenever I talk about Cambell , I always think of your Uncle Jim, there is no way he would have been killed speeding :laughing:
Eddie

Hi Eddie

can you emember back to about 1965.

I was taking my grandfather and grandmother down to St Albans in the white Rover 110 and I am sure it was you that tavelled down with us to Leicestershire. A removal was coming back up and I had to divert off the A1 to drop somene up at the house to meet a driver who was on his own after deliving that area and he needed someone to help him load. I am sure it was you, or perhaps my mind is playing tricks and it could possibly have been Dale Harrison. Can you remember?

Carl

A rare thing happened late 64 early 65 I took some potos (Pretty bad results)

my grandfather with Rover 110, a jinxed car.

bought new by J W Wood of Wood and Watson Duham wo died from a heart attack witin a month or so of buying it.

Bought by my Grandfather off Adams & Gibbon Durham who wee selling on behalf of Wood and Watson Car only a few months old

after about three months grandfather had heart attxck so dad bougt him a new Rover 2000 which was ligter steering.

Dad took the 110 and sold his Rover 80

Within about three month he had a heart attack and decided to get rid of the 110

He bought a new Rover 3 litre Coupe which had power steering.

Gordon Ball has sent me another message

Gordon BallCarl Williams
Carl did you know Kenny Dagga died a couple of years ago i beleive in his cab on a overnight stop in Doncaster he was reported missing after he failed to deliver on the south coast,it was some three days before he was found after a Trucker heard on the Doncaster radio of him being missing in that area so looking in lorry parking areas came across him.

Ken worked for us a for a lot of years. I remember him driving one of the Dodge Marsden luton Vans either RTY5G or RTY6G with Fred Thirlaway driving the other.
He then went onto driving a TK boxvan on the Thorn Heating contract finnishing driving a Mercedes Curtain sider on this job.

I didn’t always see eye to eye with Ken , but he was a good driver and worked well, and its always so sad to hear of any death, but in these circumstances it is very sad.

Three Rover P4’s photographed at the garage Marmaduke Street either late 64 or early 65.

From Right Rover 110

Centre Rover 60 my grandfathers car bought new june 55 waiting sale

Right Rover 80 My fathers car bought new 1961

Within under a year of this photo because of the Jinx 110 all these cars had been replaced

Note the old Petrol pump.

The old petrol vans had to pull over infront of the garage so the pump nozzel and pipe woud be long enough to fill up

Hi Carl…Great photo’s of the Rover’s, where the petrol pump is in photo, I had my office there and kept the pump in as a feature, I also remember getting petrol for Dr Brauer,Dr,Hirnett,remember the old library bus “Titan”.
Eddie

edworth:
Hi Carl…Great photo’s of the Rover’s, where the petrol pump is in photo, I had my office there and kept the pump in as a feature, I also remember getting petrol for Dr Brauer,Dr,Hirnett,remember the old library bus “Titan”.
Eddie

Hi Eddie,

The petrol pump had stood there befoe the garage was built, so it was quite old, by Avery Arnold the manufacturer.In its day it was the best pump available and my grandfather had insisted that he wanted that type of pump. If you remember the tank was half way up under the garage floor and the garage had been built over it. Imagine trying to get planning permission for that today, especially as it was so near to houses. About 1971 to 72 when the tank was nearly fifty years old the law was canged and tanks had to be regularly presure tested. Most tanks wee found leaking and because of its age we prepared for the worst. Pump Maintenance Ltd came out and filled it with air under pressure and a seal was put on with a police officer witnessing. It had to remain this way for 24 hours and the next day was found to be perfect.

I’ll mention the mobile library later as it is a longish story.

Here is a photo taken te same day as the others of my Grandfathers Rover 60 awaiting for sale. It is parked in front of 14 and 16 Marmaduke Street. You will remember we used no 16 as an office, and as well as these two houses we owned no 12 which we used the garden as a compound, which you have already mentioned when you helped dig it out.

Best wishes

carl

Some me info from Gordon Ball

o I started WHW in 1973 i think Eddy Worthington had left as i heard of him but not known him.

  • Carl i have logged in but will be OK am tomorrow i hope, thanks for posting on the web you are doing a great job the history of WHW brings it all back to me.
    The last i saw of David Brannon he was still working @ Hathaways Roofing in West Auckland on the shop floor about 6 years ago, Roger the Dodger i see regularly in Asda Spennymoor & seems well.i also met George (Geordie) Meek in Asda later & seems OK.Is it right Ronnie Harris died? Dennis Gough (Pea & Ham) lives back in Belfast & drives artics on the Continent.
    Take care & hope you feel well. Gordon.

Carl Williams:
Some me info from Gordon Ball

o I started WHW in 1973 i think Eddy Worthington had left as i heard of him but not known him.

  • Carl i have logged in but will be OK am tomorrow i hope, thanks for posting on the web you are doing a great job the history of WHW brings it all back to me.
    The last i saw of David Brannon he was still working @ Hathaways Roofing in West Auckland on the shop floor about 6 years ago, Roger the Dodger i see regularly in Asda Spennymoor & seems well.i also met George (Geordie) Meek in Asda later & seems OK.Is it right Ronnie Harris died? Dennis Gough (Pea & Ham) lives back in Belfast & drives artics on the Continent.
    Take care & hope you feel well. Gordon.

Hi Gordon,

no doubt Eddie Worthington will keep me right, but he did return for a while and did work from Green Lane, but at that time there were so many drivers it is possible you didn’t know each other.

It seems such a shame that David Brannon is not a workshop manager, or fleet engineer some where because he was very qualified and a very good mechanic, but I surpose alway the wages don’t match the job or skills. Roger must be vey old now and I am pleased that George Meek is still about. If ever yu meet either, please tell them about Truck Net.

Best wishes
Carl

Hi Carl, just come from Asda where I bumped into Roger. I told him about the Trucknet site but unfortunately he doesn’t have access to a computer and wasn’t aware of the
Forum. I related some of the stories that had been posted and he was extremely interested. Of course driving with Uncle Jim took his thoughts back to a time when he was travelling to Manchester with him as he was doing a delivery. Roger was being dropped off there and he was to find his way to Warrington to pick up a van from Marsden’s the coach builders. They had set off late (as usual for uncle Jim: see previous threads). After about 3 hours they had just got to the other side of Leeds and Roger asked if they were going to stop somewhere for breakfast. Uncle Jim said no because he had his in his bag. By that time Roger was starving and Jim wasn’t going to stop. As they were approaching a cafe, fortunately on a hill, Jim, in his usual manner, slowed down so Roger jumped out because he knew how long it would take to get to Manchester. Jim had no option but to stop and wait for him.

During our conversation I told him how your grandad had taught me how to drive without passing a driving test himself so he went on to tell me, “neither did I”. He said that he was 76 years young and decided that it was time to let his HGV licence go. He had driven lots of road and track going vehicles in the army but had never formally taken a driving test just being handed a piece of paper on leaving saying that he would need that in Civvy Street.

He expressed an interest in meeting up with you.

Peter.

pbsummers:
Hi Carl, just come from Asda where I bumped into Roger. I told him about the Trucknet site but unfortunately he doesn’t have access to a computer and wasn’t aware of the
Forum. I related some of the stories that had been posted and he was extremely interested. Of course driving with Uncle Jim took his thoughts back to a time when he was travelling to Manchester with him as he was doing a delivery. Roger was being dropped off there and he was to find his way to Warrington to pick up a van from Marsden’s the coach builders. They had set off late (as usual for uncle Jim: see previous threads). After about 3 hours they had just got to the other side of Leeds and Roger asked if they were going to stop somewhere for breakfast. Uncle Jim said no because he had his in his bag. By that time Roger was starving and Jim wasn’t going to stop. As they were approaching a cafe, fortunately on a hill, Jim, in his usual manner, slowed down so Roger jumped out because he knew how long it would take to get to Manchester. Jim had no option but to stop and wait for him.

During our conversation I told him how your grandad had taught me how to drive without passing a driving test himself so he went on to tell me, “neither did I”. He said that he was 76 years young and decided that it was time to let his HGV licence go. He had driven lots of road and track going vehicles in the army but had never formally taken a driving test just being handed a piece of paper on leaving saying that he would need that in Civvy Street.

He expressed an interest in meeting up with you.

Peter.

Hi Peter,
I would be pleased to meet Roger, in Spennymoor, one day for a cup of coffee (Tell him, I’ll pay).Paul can drive me over and perhaps you could join us. I think I have so many stories of Uncle Jim all so different and yu never get sick of hearing them as he was such a character. If he had stopped fo breakfast it would take him so long to eat it he never would have got there, and as we all know he needed his sandwiches as they were an excuse when he got to his delivery, so that he could eat them while others who took pity on him could unload the van.
I will send you a message with my phone number in case you don’t have it and perhaps you can arrange a meeting with Roger.

Best wishes
Carl

Somemoe info from Godon Ball

Gordon BallCarl Williams
After WHW closed i was in a cafe in Margate area & in walked Geoff Welford while
we spoke of times past he mentioned HE was on the ill fated Herald of Free Enterprise that sank in 1987 in Zeebrugge Harbour with 191 lives lost after the doors ramp was left open as it made its way to Dover.As it sank he lost consciousness & was rescued but had a frightening experience.He also had a crash while on the Continent when in collision with an Army Truck & had pins in his legs which meant the cold got to his legs & was less able to move.

someore info from Gordon Ball

Gordon Ball While going through a divorce myself & Alan Brown a nice hard working man & freind were sent in TPT19V i believe to London depot with beds then to the South of France for a removal back to Stockton, here we are in a warm rural area loading for home.

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Gordon Ball We stayed in the Bordeau Truck Stop & after a few bevvies flipped a coin to see who slept on the seats or bunk i lost but the stretch across seats was OK & the next morning Alan had about 20 mozzie bites on him myself NONE as we had the windows open as it was very humid (no air conditioning) he was very poorly all the way home but a great trip all the same.

Carl Williams:
Gordon Ball We stayed in the Bordeau Truck Stop & after a few bevvies flipped a coin to see who slept on the seats or bunk i lost but the stretch across seats was OK & the next morning Alan had about 20 mozzie bites on him myself NONE as we had the windows open as it was very humid (no air conditioning) he was very poorly all the way home but a great trip all the same.

Hi Gordon,

You and Alan would be given a load for the London Depot as it was uncomplicated and a quick drop. Jim Wilson our manager in London would have been told to tip you without delay. Can you remember the depot was in North Woolwich and we used to have to drive round passed where they were building Canary Wharf at the time and we were just to the rear of it.

Had we survived our depot would have been in a prime location. I attach a photo of a D series boxvan that was based there parked infrnt of the doors.

Jim Wilson was a true cockney an who knows with the power of the internet we might hear from him.

Carl