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Working on the Agency today, got given a curtainsider with no internal straps whatsoever. When I went to transport office to ask for some I was told I didnt need any. I then explained the VOSA clampdown on unsecure loads. The TM then gave me a gem of advice by stating “VOSA are only issuing fines if you have straps and failed to use them”
So I gave him the keys back and went Moutain Biking instead Cheers Easy!
smallprint…Yes I will get paid…Iam salaried and this is the way I have been working for the last 9 years. No doubt someone else will be taking the trailer tonight fully loaded as we speak
green456:
Which agency pays drivers on a annual salary
I have a full time job moving specialist loads in convoys,but these loads dont need moving every day so when we not doing this my employer farms us out to an agency to recoup some money back rather than letting us stay at home watching tv on full pay.
So the curtainsider I had the other week clearly stated in big letters LOAD BEARING curtains, how are vosa treating those ■■ Sorry if someone asked this before, read a couple of pages then got bored
Phantom Mark:
So the curtainsider I had the other week clearly stated in big letters LOAD BEARING curtains, how are vosa treating those ■■ Sorry if someone asked this before, read a couple of pages then got bored
these curtains will approximately take a tonne per pallet as long as the load is attached to the pallet in a secure manner (shrink wrap if light enough or banding) so the curtains will hold in about 26 tonne, just make sure your straps are tight, if in doubt strap it. Simples
Every row strapped with the hooks on the bed (not off the rave or chassis), side boards and load lock at the back. Should of used anti slip mats but didnt have any. This is how it should be done as a minimum in this country all the time.
This is how it should be done as a minimum in this country all the time.
That depends on whether you want to be legal or safe, I used to regularly (most weeks) load groupage starting with 8 or 10 pallets of ‘Winofill’ and take it to Spain, I never strapped a single pallet &, 'SHOCK HORROR" I never had any ever fall off or even lean into the curtain. I’m not doubting that VOSTAPPO will serve you up a nice ‘graduated fixed penalty notice’ if you don’t do as you have, but in a Euroliner or tilt it’s only ‘tipping your hat’ towards Brussels & nothing else, side boards & a ‘load lock’ for the back pallets is plenty!!
Phantom Mark:
Bs, sorry, every load has it’s own requirements and should be treated as such.
A full stack of empty egg cartons does not require a strap in a curtain sider, period, even on non load bearing curtains.
The cartons should be wrapped to the pallet, side boards must be used and a load lock at the back.
Seriously, all they need is wrapping to the pallet and like you say something across the rear, boards are well over the top for such a light pallet, I’ve done the euro liners as shown above with the Volvo and Ford crates, each strapped up so not afraid of hard work but not going to burst a ball to do it just for the sake of it ■■?
Own Account Driver:
With a lot of wrapped pallets there’s a very real risk of unnecessary damage to goods from straps cutting in.
I wouldnt strap egg cartons, side boards, anti slip mats and load lock would be enough. Assuming of course that its low weight, under 400kg per pallet.
bigr250:
Saaamon:
This is how it should be done as a minimum in this country all the time.
That depends on whether you want to be legal or safe, I used to regularly (most weeks) load groupage starting with 8 or 10 pallets of ‘Winofill’ and take it to Spain, I never strapped a single pallet &, 'SHOCK HORROR" I never had any ever fall off or even lean into the curtain. I’m not doubting that VOSTAPPO will serve you up a nice ‘graduated fixed penalty notice’ if you don’t do as you have, but in a Euroliner or tilt it’s only ‘tipping your hat’ towards Brussels & nothing else, side boards & a ‘load lock’ for the back pallets is plenty!!
Ross.
The problem is to many people out there take chances, you watch people pull back their curtains and see all sorts of stuff ie double stacked pallets without a strap in sight and as soon as that load starts moving because you’ve gone round a corner to fast your zb’d!
Phantom Mark:
Bs, sorry, every load has it’s own requirements and should be treated as such.
A full stack of empty egg cartons does not require a strap in a curtain sider, period, even on non load bearing curtains.
The cartons should be wrapped to the pallet, side boards must be used and a load lock at the back.
I’ve done the euro liners as shown above with the Volvo and Ford crates, each strapped up so not afraid of hard work but not going to burst a ball to do it just for the sake of it ■■?
So you know how much fun it is stripping 56+ boards out of a trailer then lol.
Phantom Mark:
So the curtainsider I had the other week clearly stated in big letters LOAD BEARING curtains, how are vosa treating those ■■ Sorry if someone asked this before, read a couple of pages then got bored
Its all a big play on words. VOSA want to see your load “SECURED”, as per what the law says. LOAD BEARING curtains (apparently) offer load CONTAINMENT, but that is not SECURING. The load may well be SECURE, but to be legal it needs to be SECURED. Clear as mud eh?
Phantom Mark:
So the curtainsider I had the other week clearly stated in big letters LOAD BEARING curtains, how are vosa treating those ■■ Sorry if someone asked this before, read a couple of pages then got bored
Its all a big play on words. VOSA want to see your load “SECURED”, as per what the law says. LOAD BEARING curtains (apparently) offer load CONTAINMENT, but that is not SECURING. The load may well be SECURE, but to be legal it needs to be SECURED. Clear as mud eh?
Even for the most simple driver, containment provide by a load bearing curtain and a secured load are two totally different things.
Phantom Mark:
So the curtainsider I had the other week clearly stated in big letters LOAD BEARING curtains, how are vosa treating those ■■ Sorry if someone asked this before, read a couple of pages then got bored
Its all a big play on words. VOSA want to see your load “SECURED”, as per what the law says. LOAD BEARING curtains (apparently) offer load CONTAINMENT, but that is not SECURING. The load may well be SECURE, but to be legal it needs to be SECURED. Clear as mud eh?
Even for the most simple driver, containment provide by a load bearing curtain and a secured load are two totally different things.
Yes, but I can’t see any difference between unstrapped pallets in a trailer within the load rating of the curtains and the same pallets in a box van trailer which will have no straps except maybe one or a load bar at the back if you’re lucky.
Phantom Mark:
So the curtainsider I had the other week clearly stated in big letters LOAD BEARING curtains, how are vosa treating those ■■ Sorry if someone asked this before, read a couple of pages then got bored
Its all a big play on words. VOSA want to see your load “SECURED”, as per what the law says. LOAD BEARING curtains (apparently) offer load CONTAINMENT, but that is not SECURING. The load may well be SECURE, but to be legal it needs to be SECURED. Clear as mud eh?
Even for the most simple driver, containment provide by a load bearing curtain and a secured load are two totally different things.
Yes, but I can’t see any difference between unstrapped pallets in a trailer within the load rating of the curtains and the same pallets in a box van trailer which will have no straps except maybe one or a load bar at the back if you’re lucky.
You make a good point.
With a curtainsider though there only has to be a small hole there already or for a moving pallet to tear the side then its all off the side.
Lol, the funny thing is that everyone is making valid points, which to me just shows that each load should be treated with its own virtue, an un-strapped tall pallet load in a box is just as dangerous to sudden weight transfers as it is on a curtain, just shows how inflexible and draconian the approach by vosa currently is, more money making schemes.
I am all for vosa clamping down on cowboys but ffs apply some common sense eh ?
Cheers Easy!
