Vehicle checkpoint - A55 Holyhead

I used to sub for Gwynedd shipping with an English motor and went in 1st time and was waved straight back out and told I don’t have to stop in future unless they stop me at roadside

must just be me then lol

i drive a uk reg lorry but pullin irish trailers

or could it be that i used to drive an irish reg lorry

been in twice over last few months and they kept me just long enough to let my trailer miss the boat

wigan:
must just be me then lol

i drive a uk reg lorry but pullin irish trailers

or could it be that i used to drive an irish reg lorry

been in twice over last few months and they kept me just long enough to let my trailer miss the boat

That old favourite. Some of them are real sad-cases, that sort of crap gives them a kick.

I’d better not give any clues as to who they might be or the whole thread might get deleted…

Many years ago I drove an Irish registered lorry (it had red number plates) and I was forever getting pulled onto the hard shoulder or into services for a quick look at my cards.

If a check point was open, guaranteed I’d get everyone’s full attention. Before I opened my mouth they would adopt a very condescending tone, quite provocative in some cases. Once they heard my dulcet South London tones it never got any better unless I was in the home counties either :laughing:

Now the paddy does have a deserved reputation for running a bit hooky, but the ministry bods are a complete BOCs towards them. If they behaved the same towards blacks or any other race there would be an outcry.

Love the McDs story BTW, proper old school paddyism, you can’t beat it :laughing:

newmercman:
Now the paddy does have a deserved reputation for running a bit hooky, but the ministry bods are a complete BOCs towards them. If they behaved the same towards blacks or any other race there would be an outcry.

I always thought that when I see aberdeen angus on TV, BUT almost every one he pulled were running bent one way or the other…

Yes, but with a bit of editing those guilty ones could’ve been filmed over weeks, maybe even months and stitched together to make good TV :bulb:

newmercman:
. If they behaved the same towards blacks or any other race there would be an outcry.

Spot on

here’s another one for you’s.about 18 months ago at about 3am i came into a village speed limit of 40mph…i slowed down a bit but not to 40pmh. well sweet mother of jaysus wasnt the cops sitting in the ■■■■■■■ village.well like a bat out of hell they were out after me like a horse out of a trap…the cop asked me if i knew why he stop me,i do says i,i think i was going a bit strong there.he said that that was a 40mph zone…i said i didnt know that and i was sorry.he said i should know thats its a 40mph as the was street lights on…well says i "there is street nights on the whole way down the M6 and ■■■■■■ if i’m doing 40mph down that…£80 fine and 2 points.

Not 3 points? the fixed penalty for speeding?

maybe it was 3,cant remember to be honest

Once more I’ll repeat that The Verve were mistaken!

milkchurns:
maybe it was 3,cant remember to be honest

And maybe £60 :wink:

i’d be sure it was 80sgt but i’m not sure about the points.irish books so therefore i didnt care + at the time i didnt really care about the fine…there was bigger fish to be fried if u know what i mean

milkchurns:
here’s another one for you’s.about 18 months ago at about 3am i came into a village speed limit of 40mph…i slowed down a bit but not to 40pmh. well sweet mother of jaysus wasnt the cops sitting in the [zb] village.well like a bat out of hell they were out after me like a horse out of a trap…the cop asked me if i knew why he stop me,i do says i,i think i was going a bit strong there.he said that that was a 40mph zone…i said i didnt know that and i was sorry.he said i should know thats its a 40mph as the was street lights on…well says i "there is street nights on the whole way down the M6 and [zb] if i’m doing 40mph down that…£80 fine and 2 points.

This thread sounds like a tesco RDC Waiting room…

Drivers, someone needs to enlighten many of you with the legalities of VOSA using just a sign saying “Entre Checkpoint” with flashing lights upon it. Some years ago as we all know, VOSA were given the power to direct lorries into a checkpoint themselves without having to have the Police to undertake the task on their behalf. Legislation was passed allowing them to do this by means of directing lorries into the checkpoint by hand signalling or by using a vehicle to guide them into the checkpoint by the “Follow me” method etc. No legislation has been passed to date allowing them to direct lorries into a checkpoint solely by the use of signs with no VOSA officer signalling the driver. Even if such signs were to become legal they would have to be worded clearly ie, “All lorries must entre checkpoint” or “Goods vehicles (Mandatory) entre checkpoint” or words to that affect. In other words, it would have to say which type of vehicles and that this is a must/mandatory. Should you drive past said sign at Holyhead and get pulled then questioned by an officer as to why you did not pull in, say to them if you have the bottle, the sign is not legal as there has been no legislation passed allowing the sole use of a sign, if the officer says it is legal, then ask him/her for the relivant section and paragraph number within the directive so your solicitor can check on it, he/she will not be able to supply the said details as they do not exist. Driver Snowy

Snowy1:
Drivers, someone needs to enlighten many of you with the legalities of VOSA using just a sign saying “Entre Checkpoint” with flashing lights upon it. Some years ago as we all know, VOSA were given the power to direct lorries into a checkpoint themselves without having to have the Police to undertake the task on their behalf. Legislation was passed allowing them to do this by means of directing lorries into the checkpoint by hand signalling or by using a vehicle to guide them into the checkpoint by the “Follow me” method etc. No legislation has been passed to date allowing them to direct lorries into a checkpoint solely by the use of signs with no VOSA officer signalling the driver. Even if such signs were to become legal they would have to be worded clearly ie, “All lorries must entre checkpoint” or “Goods vehicles (Mandatory) entre checkpoint” or words to that affect. In other words, it would have to say which type of vehicles and that this is a must/mandatory. Should you drive past said sign at Holyhead and get pulled then questioned by an officer as to why you did not pull in, say to them if you have the bottle, the sign is not legal as there has been no legislation passed allowing the sole use of a sign, if the officer says it is legal, then ask him/her for the relivant section and paragraph number within the directive so your solicitor can check on it, he/she will not be able to supply the said details as they do not exist. Driver Snowy

I agree entirely and I am sure they will apologise for the delay and bid you a good day.not.

Snowy1:
Drivers, someone needs to enlighten many of you with the legalities of VOSA using just a sign saying “Entre Checkpoint” with flashing lights upon it. Some years ago as we all know, VOSA were given the power to direct lorries into a checkpoint themselves without having to have the Police to undertake the task on their behalf. Legislation was passed allowing them to do this by means of directing lorries into the checkpoint by hand signalling or by using a vehicle to guide them into the checkpoint by the “Follow me” method etc. No legislation has been passed to date allowing them to direct lorries into a checkpoint solely by the use of signs with no VOSA officer signalling the driver. Even if such signs were to become legal they would have to be worded clearly ie, “All lorries must entre checkpoint” or “Goods vehicles (Mandatory) entre checkpoint” or words to that affect. In other words, it would have to say which type of vehicles and that this is a must/mandatory. Should you drive past said sign at Holyhead and get pulled then questioned by an officer as to why you did not pull in, say to them if you have the bottle, the sign is not legal as there has been no legislation passed allowing the sole use of a sign, if the officer says it is legal, then ask him/her for the relivant section and paragraph number within the directive so your solicitor can check on it, he/she will not be able to supply the said details as they do not exist. Driver Snowy

We know its not a legal requirement but what is to be gained by driving past to make a point? And all that will happen is they will go through you with a fine tooth comb. But try it if you have over an hour to spare and your cards are 100%, which for most of us they aren’t.

I understand what you are saying, but things are now getting out of hand, VOSA are bending and twisting the rules to suit themselves, it’s time for all drivers across the nation to show some back-bone and make a stand as our road transport unions have no fight within them, they just take our money. I am out to get VOSA in court myself for incorrect drills when manning their checkpoints, as my brother is a solicitor this will not cost me, one big mistake VOSA are undertaking is that they are going for the drivers wallet all the time and not policing the haulage companies and making sure they supply drivers with the equipment and allow the time for the driver to undertake his/her tasks legally ie, the correct strapping of loads etc just to mention one. Snowy

Snowy1:
I understand what you are saying, but things are now getting out of hand, VOSA are bending and twisting the rules to suit themselves, it’s time for all drivers across the nation to show some back-bone and make a stand as our road transport unions have no fight within them, they just take our money. I am out to get VOSA in court myself for incorrect drills when manning their checkpoints, as my brother is a solicitor this will not cost me, one big mistake VOSA are undertaking is that they are going for the drivers wallet all the time and not policing the haulage companies and making sure they supply drivers with the equipment and allow the time for the driver to undertake his/her tasks legally ie, the correct strapping of loads etc just to mention one. Snowy

You’re lucky Snowy - having a legal professional in the family…However, the vast majority of drivers don’t have this luxury and are only interested in getting the job done with the minimum of fuss/hassle & the maximum earnings. This, of course, includes doing as they are told at roadside checks carried out by the ‘experts’ - simply because police/VOSA/DVSA should be fully aware of the legislation. Sometimes they are not singing off the same sheet but even on these occasions - it can pay to bite your tongue at times - unless it’s a blatant ■■■■-up.

A driver I used to work with got caught speeding and took it to court as the points would have took him past 12 & facing a ban. He was determined to plead not guilty and fight his corner. His solicitor advised him to take the rap & plead guilty. Solicitors words: ‘Whoever or whatever experts you provide in the court…they (the authorities) will have more experts and better experts’. Hence guilty plea plus sob story = hefty fine but no ban. I know it ain’t right but it’s the way of the world unfortunately.

I’m not saying rollover at every opportunity but driving past a checkpoint just because you claim you didn’t see an official personally invite you into the checkpoint with a wave is asking for more trouble, if you ask me. They are, after all only doing their job.
Evidence: last weeks episode of Life in the fast lane where a truck was pulled with an air tank about to fall onto carriageway because both securing straps were snapped/broken. This kind of thing is a daily occurrence…that’s why they have the checks. If you’ve done nothing wrong…you’ve nothing to worry about.

Snowy1:
I understand what you are saying, but things are now getting out of hand, VOSA are bending and twisting the rules to suit themselves, it’s time for all drivers across the nation to show some back-bone and make a stand as our road transport unions have no fight within them, they just take our money. I am out to get VOSA in court myself for incorrect drills when manning their checkpoints, as my brother is a solicitor this will not cost me, one big mistake VOSA are undertaking is that they are going for the drivers wallet all the time and not policing the haulage companies and making sure they supply drivers with the equipment and allow the time for the driver to undertake his/her tasks legally ie, the correct strapping of loads etc just to mention one. Snowy

To be fair I’ve nothing much to stand up to. I’ve been stopped many more times thank the average Trucknet user and generally found VOSA to be reasonable. In fact I’ve only ever been fined once