A ‘megalomaniac’ who was proved right.
You’re confusing megalomaniac with strong with the best interests of his industry and its workforce at heart.
Not going along with Thatchers divide and rule tactics as the Notts scabs wanted.
There was no way that a ballot could have possibly worked under that regime.
Suggest you watch the final episode of the last Miners at the closure of the big K pit.
Their final words went along the lines Arthur Scargill was right.
It’s a moot point Rob.From memory my first ( good ) experience of Unions was as not even a member of the TGWU vehicle manufacturing group during those ‘militant’ 70’s of all things fighting against the Callaghan regime’s wage cuts.Nothing to do with the council.
My worst experience was as a member of the TGWU RTC group being ordered back to work by POS Danny Brian or the Union would take the side of the employer in sacking me for refusal of warehouse labouring duties.
Your point being what ?.
My point?
I was answering your point, and asking you for an alternative to my looking after no1 way, with the way things are in this job now…
An alternative apart from joining the ranks of yesmen and clowns that is
I normally desist from the general pilloring of your posts but with this you go too far. The word scab is a very insulting one especially when it is used to describe an honest body of men who wanted nothing more than the right to vote.
Scargill may have been right in saying that mines would close, but where he was wrong was in the first place when he tried to force a strike without asking his members, and then when many of them right across the Midlands refused to be bullied he sent his storm troopers south to attack them. If you had ever been on the wrong end of a miner’s brick or had your fuel lines cut when you agreed to stop and reason rather than driving through at speed a seething hundreds strong violent mob, you may have a better attitude.
I will now return to my long held opinion to ignore your ignorant posturings.
I was telling why joining the ranks of UNITE can’t/won’t fix it and ASLEF/RMT can’t/won’t fix it for truck drivers.
Let’s just say that the TGWU/Unite RTC group weren’t/aren’t in it for for truck drivers by truck drivers as opposed to train drivers.
No one is going to be at the wrong end of a picket by refusing to cross it.
A picket is one thing at a legitimate place of work, a screaming mob of hundreds hurling missiles and sobotaging lorries at somebody else’s place of work, be it a coking plant or a mine where they have democracy, is quite another.
I have mentioned before that I was the steward at Econofreight Leicester. We, at our depot, consistantly voted against strike action in 1970. But when there was a national vote and direction to strike, we duly accepted that and came out. My job then was to tour the places of work, our contracted customers (which was permitted by law then), organise a picket of 2 or 3 drivers and request other drivers not to cross the picket. Some turned round and some said sorry but we are going in. We said ok, thanks for stopping and listening to our case, and then we moved aside and in they went. No bricks, no rocks, no hatred invective. Democracy in action.
You seem to have selectively missed the bit about allowing a vote by those promised a better deal, by Thatcher, regarding pit closures ( Notts ), as in no closures, than others.
A scab is defined by anyone crossing a picket line and/or undermining strike action by others.
It isn’t up for negotiation or vote.
So you agree Scargill was right why would you want to support Thatcher ?.
British Railways decided to set an example of what an average freight by road lorry should look like, in order to keep competition to a minimum. So it produced this:
As Beaching demonstrated, it didn’t quite work
To be fair there’s some scope to shorten that load deck a bit more.