NEC birmingham - arrived with 6 pallets of goods. had a wander inside and yes the stand is as far from the door as possible. went to the office to see if the forkie can unload - “yeah £30 a lift mate” !!!
ring customer - polite answer “no thanks, youve had your weetabix…”
hmmm approach forkie direct - “fiver to drop them on the floor and borrow a pump truck mate?” - snatched my hand off, job done. me out of there in a fraction of the time (with parking refunded) whilst avoiding hard work LOL. sounds good to me
YES - sometimes it is worth the aggro of “hiring” a forklift out of your own pocket, simply to get tipped quick (my market work was always job & knock, so paying a couple of quid to get home an hour earlier is good business sense to me )
Another guy used to have half pallets of mushrooms for a place 3 miles from my house (that was a £25 tickle quite regularly, although most of the nearer stuff like 2 pallets to Cov would be a fiver, but I’m going there anyway so who cares !)
What I want to know is do u sign this guys paperwork for him and if so that means if u were that guy you could burn or dump your produce and forge a signature yourself and say that you delivered it and if anything came back about it you can say that such and such FLT driver from another company unloaded you so its your word against theres (Thats madness!) I cant believe some companies will not refund your money but will also accept a signature from an FLT driver who doesnt even work for the company you are delivering to
There’s a bloke out near me who has a few motors doing Covent garden nightly, went for a job there years ago, didnt take it in the end. He used return load out of the market aswell, and deliver to small shops/wholesalers on the way back, and at most of these address’s the keys to a forlift would be left out for you to tip yourself or handball outside shops, common practice otherwise it would be wait til 7-8 oclock to get tipped, bonus right out of the window, you want to be back in the yard and cleared of home by 8 oclock. I would’ve tipped myself, if youre thinking thats why i didnt take the job, but i wonder wether Guy Rope would
eddie snax:
There’s a bloke out near me who has a few motors doing Covent garden nightly, went for a job there years ago, didnt take it in the end. He used return load out of the market aswell, and deliver to small shops/wholesalers on the way back, and at most of these address’s the keys to a forlift would be left out for you to tip yourself or handball outside shops, common practice otherwise it would be wait til 7-8 oclock to get tipped, bonus right out of the window, you want to be back in the yard and cleared of home by 8 oclock. I would’ve tipped myself, if youre thinking thats why i didnt take the job, but i wonder wether Guy Rope would
Somebody I worked with once told me he used to do something very much like this…I guess it was the same firm.
Market deliveries always worked like this. I had a regular delivery at Lanark at 21.30 on a saturday night and the next was Francis Nicholls in Glasgow fruit market at 5am on Sunday then collect a loaded fridge from IBM
If you could persuade a forklift driver to unload the Francis Nicholls stuff you could be on your way home at midnight
Its certainly a lot easier than carrying trays of tomatos and cucumbers down the trailer for someone to stack on pallets
Guy Rope:
On an earlier thread I asked the best way to Covent Garden, the reason being that I had just got a job with Fruitex at Donington on nights, as I found that getting up at 03.00 AM for Phil Hanley was not for me, and I would stick to what I like which is Nights.
I was amazed on reading that thread that you had to give backhanders to get in CG, but on my first night with Fruitex which was Tonight, I was listening to the other blokes and I heard them saying about slipping the FLT drivers a £5 to get tipped, and it turns out that each place you go if you did not do this you would regret it, so I said did you get this back as expenses, and the boss who was there said no it comes out of your pocket I sat there gobsmacked the driver pays to get tipped out of his own pocket.
I am afraid it will be a very cold day in Hell before I will pay anybody out of my pocket to tip a wagon, and if I had set of with the load i would have brought it back before I would have parted with MY money, so I got up and came home.
you don’t pay
i pay each Week bedween £30.- and £50.- to get so,na ja,loaded,to find Home. Otherwise is the rear on Ground or you mean the Trailer falls or whatever.
Guy Rope:
On an earlier thread I asked the best way to Covent Garden, the reason being that I had just got a job with Fruitex at Donington on nights, as I found that getting up at 03.00 AM for Phil Hanley was not for me, and I would stick to what I like which is Nights.
I was amazed on reading that thread that you had to give backhanders to get in CG, but on my first night with Fruitex which was Tonight, I was listening to the other blokes and I heard them saying about slipping the FLT drivers a £5 to get tipped, and it turns out that each place you go if you did not do this you would regret it, so I said did you get this back as expenses, and the boss who was there said no it comes out of your pocket I sat there gobsmacked the driver pays to get tipped out of his own pocket.
I am afraid it will be a very cold day in Hell before I will pay anybody out of my pocket to tip a wagon, and if I had set of with the load i would have brought it back before I would have parted with MY money, so I got up and came home.
you don’t pay
i pay each Week bedween £30.- and £50.- to get so,na ja,loaded,to find Home. Otherwise is the rear on Ground or you mean the Trailer falls or whatever.
No problem tipping myself would do that anywhere rather than wait 3/4 hours, and have done on numerous occasions i.e. Netto etc.
My whole objection is PAYING someone to tip me and NOT getting the money back, I have an FLT licence and will tip myself if I GET BACK the money I have dished out to hire FLT, I will handball as long as its not a ridiculous amount.
You all seem to miss the point, I have no particular objections to doing anything apart from spending MY WAGES for gaffers advantage, if some of you on here wish to spend your money for the bosses benefit (wagons back early,less money to you hourly paid blokes) feel free, I wont.
Guy Rope:
You all seem to miss the point, I have no particular objections to doing anything apart from spending MY WAGES for gaffers advantage, if some of you on here wish to spend your money for the bosses benefit (wagons back early,less money to you hourly paid blokes) feel free, I wont.
I see where your coming from, so you’ve no objection to tipping a FLT driver to tip other customers pallets, provided you are reembirsed by the boss, that sound resonable to me.
Exactly eddie, I have in the past laid out all sorts of money, parking fees, tolls, diesel on occasion, bulbs, oil etc, I have always been given it back, If you had told me a couple of weeks a that there was a firm that expected you to pay to unload their trucks I would have thought you were winding me up.
GuyRope:
If you had told me a couple of weeks a that there was a firm that expected you to pay to unload their trucks I would have thought you were winding me up.
I’m beginning to think it’s you who are winding us up Guy, nobody has said that mate, only that they help themselves now and again.
Spardo nobody is winding you up, I really dont know what to say to you, you obviously dont mind spending your own money in the course of doing your job “to speed it up” exellent, If I ever become a gaffer you are the sort of driver I will look for, one who will part with his own money for the company’s benefit, one who pays for light bars, alloys etc to smarten up the truck.
This is not an industry where driver’s are overpaid , it is quite common to still see wages of less than £6 per hour quoated, to then have foolish people dip into there own pockets to pay someone who is allready being paid to unload them quicker or have to wait hours is as I said when I started this thread unbelievable.
I will have to agree to disagree with the people on here who are willing to do this, we will never get proper wages and conditions in this industry as long as drivers will subsidise the employers in this fashion, they obviously know full well that you have to do this in order to get unloaded and do the job in a reasonable amount of time and rely on it.
I have no more to say about this as I just keep repeating myself, bear in mind that if you pay an average £40 per week thats £1920 per year or £9600 in five years, if the company employs 10 drivers thats £19200 per year or £96000 over five years, I dont know about the rest of you but I have better things to do with my money.
Give it up Dave . You’re wasting your breath as the guy clearly has problems differentiating between the two obvious arguments being brought about in this thread.
Spardo:
only that they help themselves now and again.
Guyrope:
one who will part with his own money for the company’s benefit
I think the heading of this thread is appropriate. Unbelievable that you can’t see the difference in these 2 statements.
Nobody is doing it for the company. Wouldn’t you buy a bus ticket to get home quicker, rather than walk for free?
Salut, David.
Yep david, but I would charge the time it would have taken me to walk.
I agree with you Guy if the company wants the wagon back quicker and dont want to be paying my wages for several hours waiting. Arguably it should cost them a bit less to give you a few quid to tip the forkie.
If on the otherhand it is for my benefit I may pay the tip, but Id make sure I got the money back by hook or by crook.
Spardo:
only that they help themselves now and again.
Guyrope:
one who will part with his own money for the company’s benefit
I think the heading of this thread is appropriate. Unbelievable that you can’t see the difference in these 2 statements.
Nobody is doing it for the company. Wouldn’t you buy a bus ticket to get home quicker, rather than walk for free?
Salut, David.
I think that Guy has a valid point, that he and i would never use our own cash to tip a forkie to unload us for what ever reason, unless we were going to get it back from the Gaffer, and in fairness to most Gaffers they would give you the cash back. But we dont have a problem in tipping flt drivers. To say that you would by a bus ticket is not a fair comparison, if it were your own truck that you were making available for other work quicker then that comparison would stand, but as employed drivers it does not
i still dont agree i wouldn be happy paying and im not surprised you have a long wait if you dont tip cos they are tipping every other company first but what do these forkies get paid to start with cos im starting to think they are on a good crack… getting paid twice and how do they stand with the gaffer if they are working for everyone else but their own company.
Like I said before, Id pay, as long as the gaffer gave me the CASH UP FRONT! It’s a bit late once youve handed it over to try get it back, and there are gaffers thatd do this i know from experience, anybody here ever remember getting stung on the humber bridge toll when it first opened? It was about seven and a half quid, and the gaffer wouldnt pay it bacvk, never again, and theres a lot of diesel used going round!
Mal:
Like I said before, Id pay, as long as the gaffer gave me the CASH UP FRONT! It’s a bit late once youve handed it over to try get it back, and there are gaffers thatd do this i know from experience, anybody here ever remember getting stung on the humber bridge toll when it first opened? It was about seven and a half quid, and the gaffer wouldnt pay it bacvk, never again, and theres a lot of diesel used going round!
yep im with you if it was the norm to pay this cartell whice it seems it is then i would want the cash up front as well especally if your paying out 30 quid a night for 5 night in a row.
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Otherwise is the rear on Ground or you mean the Trailer falls or whatever.
